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Finally brought home a Grabber blue GTPE yesterday. I ordered it in July 2021. It was then converted from a '21 to a 22 in October and entered production in Jan 17,22. Built that week and was scheduled for delivery in late March, but somehow it ended up at the dealership last week. What a pleasant surprise.

Quick shout out to my Dealer in So Cal: Southbay Ford. They have been a pleasure to work with. No Admin fees, takes Xplan. I highly recommend checking them out if you're looking for a great dealership.

A little background.
1) I owned one of the original Model Y AWD LR. It has acceleration boost upgrade which decreases the 0-60 to 4.0sec. Top end performance (above 40) is the same as a performance model Y.
2) I ordered the Mach E GT sight unseen. I saw a Mach E select at a dealer once, never test drove it. Wasn't really impressed with the interior at the time. No glass roof made the interior feel cramp, and the material was not what I expected in a $50k+ car. I did not get a chance to drive it before putting in my order.

First impression:
1) The GT looks a lot better in person than in the pictures. Especially the front end. Really nice and agressive. The Black faux grill really breaks up all the color. I think it's a really big improvement over the non-GT. I've seen a few non GT GB cars on the hwy and was a little hesitant ordering that color because of how overpowering it was, but the black grill really helps.
2) The GTPE seats look better in person than pictures. But the front headrest is too far forward. No way you can wear a helmet and be comfortable. As it, its already touching my head. Seats are otherwise comfortable. Not too found of the fake suede. Wish it was all leather. Feels kinda cheap.
3)The dash is otherwise fine, not Audi or porsche or BMW level, but good enough Not fond of the fabric material on the lower dash and doors. I don't think it will age well, but we will see. I can see it developing fur balls from things rubbing on it when getting in and out of the car.
4)The infotainment system takes a little to get used to but is responsive enough. I will hold further judgment until I get accustomed to it.
5) The interior is a little more cramp than the Model Y. The Y feels airy, the MachE more intimate. Especially in the rear seat. In the Y, I can literally straighten out my legs while sitting. That's how much room there is. in the Mache E, not so much.

Performance:
1) It car is downright fast 0-30/40. Really feel the torque. After that it's quick, but definitely not as fast as my Model Y. I don't feel the G force as much in the Mache E than my Y above 40. It's still fast, but not as fast. Don't feel the blood rushing to the back of your head like the Y.
2) The grey bars do show up in normal driving but are not noticeable in typical daily driving. I wouldn't even notice it if the Forum didn't point it out. Also, the power meter is so tiny that you have to squint just to see the grey bars when there are 1 or 2.
3) Steering alright feels a little disconnected compared to the Y.
4) The ride is firm, but not harsh, much better than the Y. The Y is pretty harsh. There's no bounce as far as I can feel.

Misc
1) I can say that first impression, the Mache is a better car, but the Y has better tech.
2) The infotainment system in the Y is more intuitive, and it has nice touches. One small example is in the Y, the car display show your car color and wheels. In the MachE, the Mache E icon shows a generic white Non GT machE. Couldn't ford just load up a picture of a GTPE mache in the correct color? Woundn't be that difficult. Little attention to details like that makes a difference in user satifaction.
3) BlueCruise is about as effective as Autopilot on the hwy. Maybe slightly less, the tesla did not have any trouble staying in the middle of the lane, Blue cruise, is pretty good 95% of the time, but it hunts a little especially during curves.
4) I think I like tesla's App better currently. I can do thinks like turn on the Air.heat any time without having to set a departure time like I do in the Mach E.
5) Mach E display less range, but is more accurate than the TESLA. The Model Y gives you inflated range. I always have to subtract about 25% off the estimated range on the Y.

Overall, I'm quite happy with the Mach E after 1 Day.

Well, that's all my rambling for now.
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Thanks for your thoughts! I always felt that Tesla is a tech company building cars and that Ford is a car company building tech - sounds like that’s been your experience thus far too. Someday I’m sure one of them will figure out the recipe to do both great.
 

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Grey bars?

What do you mean by "Grey Bars" showing up?
 

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Grey bars?

What do you mean by "Grey Bars" showing up?
The gray bars in the power meter that show the maximum power limitation you must have seem them? As the battery charge lowers you will see bars appearing, if you put you foot down you can see lots of bars appearing after x time that locks out the maximum amount of power you have available these will normally fade away after a time interval.

*edit adding a picture in case you have never seen them, but the bars will start to fill up from the right hand side (maximum power) working down towards the left had side as more and more appear it shows the maximum power. In this piccy there are no bars, search the site and you will see a few videos posted of the bars coming in.

As the OP and may others have complained about the power meter is microscopic :(. The ui needs an overhaul to make it large like you get with other vehicles that have power meters

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Interesting comment about the picture of the car. On my Infinite Blue Premium, the car icon is the correct color.
 


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Thank you for the insights.
I felt that the Mach E’s steering was much more communicative than the MY I test drove in Charlotte. I also felt the MY’s interior was too spartan and the MME’s a little nicer/more traditional. I canceled my 2021 MME order and ended up buying a Taycan RWD. Absolutely fell in love with the Taycan’s interior and exterior as well as it’s driving feel. I have placed a 2022 MME order. I just rolled 10K on my Taycan but on my “achy” days (disabled/retired Army), the sling into the lower Taycan can be problematic.
 

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My 3 year old immediately asked why the display showed a white car when our car is red. If not for him I never would have noticed!

Also, hold down the power button in the FordPass app to remote start. That turns on heat without setting a departure time. It turns on climate to whatever you had it set to last (this can be adjusted in the vehicle settings in the car).
 

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I have said it before to other people who ask why I did not get a Tesla. My main two reasons were:
1) Value.
2) Too much technology - not enough problem.
 

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*edit adding a picture in case you have never seen them, but the bars will start to fill up from the right hand side (maximum power) working down towards the left had side as more and more appear it shows the maximum power. In this piccy there are no bars, search the site and you will see a few videos posted of the bars coming in.
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I never seen them. I think that is only on the GT models, or has anyone gained them with a OTA?
 

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My wife owns a Model Y Long Range and I took delivery of my MME Premium Extended range last week. I agree with your general impressions that the Tesla is far superior in the tech category, but after a few days, no one cares if your car can fart. I would much rather drive my Mach E daily. The Tesla is much faster and responsive. But I prefer the ride quality of the MME, and if I am being honest, I rarely just floor it so that the acceleration becomes an issue.

I far prefer the interior of my car to the Tesla. The seats are less comfortable to me and I am just not that impressed with the interior materials. I really enjoy the MME seats and I think the look of the space grey interior is very nice. I see no difference in the roominess of the front seats, but the back seats of the Model Y are certainly more spacious and easier to get in and out of. Storage in the rear goes to the Tesla as well.

Range is a wash as far as I am concerned. Both have plenty of range for daily use and if you are travelling long distances, 10 to 20 miles difference doesn't really impact you too much. I haven't fast charged the MME, but the Tesla experience on that front is top-notch.

If comparing apps was a boxing match, they would stop the fight. The Tesla app is sooo much better and more responsive. Setting the interior climate, locating the car, scheduling service. Ford has a long way to catch up in this regard. Why can't I set my maximum charge from my phone and why do I have to charge somewhere before I set a maximum charge? But, it's not something that bothers me on a daily basis.

The appearance is a mismatch in the other direction as far as I am concerned. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but not in this case. The MME is a much better and distinctive car in person. As competitors catch up, I really think Tesla is going to have to give its cars better appeal. I have had more people stop and make positive comments about the MME than the Tesla. I even had one older gentleman ask why the hell I was putting my groceries under the hood.

In all, I would buy either car and be happy. I prefer the MME for me, but my wife prefers the Model Y. Regardless, we are EV buyers for life. The responsive, smooth and quiet drive is far superior to a gas car. I am interested to see how this technology develops.
 

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I don’t care how good the tech is on a car that refuses to to Car Play and Android Auto. The fact that Tesla just refuses to support them makes their in car tech inferior IMO.

The phone app on the other hand… well It does absolutely feel like you just had plumbing work done by an electrician.
 

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Thanks for a nice cross review. The display car bugs me to, but at night it is black, so then it matches my black MME:)

The Ford interface has never been great in years. My Ram and Dodge are way better and we prefer for sure. The phone app is a joke and not useful for sure, glad I got a 2nd Fob.
 

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Interesting comment about the picture of the car. On my Infinite Blue Premium, the car icon is the correct color.
I could be mistaken or they may have updated the software on later builds, but I think it shows a white MME when on 'light' display mode and a darker (infinite blue or gray) MME when on 'dark' mode. I don't think it's tied to your actual color.
 

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I could be mistaken or they may have updated the software on later builds, but I think it shows a white MME when on 'light' display mode and a darker (infinite blue or gray) MME when on 'dark' mode. I don't think it's tied to your actual color.
I will check later today. My instrument panel is set to always be dark mode, but I have the main screen set to “Auto”. I do have a Job 1 car (early Feb 2 build, if I recall).
 

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Interesting comment about the picture of the car. On my Infinite Blue Premium, the car icon is the correct color.
Initially we all thought the white and black cars were representing the color of the car for those that had a white or black car but for the rest of us it was perplexing until we realized it's to represent if the screen is in day or night mode, which is unnecessary. I don't think that's been changed yet and
I really do hope Ford allows users to customize the icon color to match your car. It is not a big deal and I agree it's the little things that make a big difference.
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