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What would be the specs on the 98 kW MME battery pack and system?
 

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What would be the specs on the 98 kW MME battery pack and system?
MME is 400V fully charged so nominal is 360V at 50% SoC. So max rate for charging at 350A will be about 126kw.
 

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Thanks - that explains the max I typically see on 150kW DC chargers - best conditions and best battery SOC can touch 123-125kWh rate.
 

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Former hardware engineer here: I've created battery chargers for li-ion batteries at the very small scale as well as NH batteries.

At least for the small batteries, charging is usually a constant current source and stopped when the voltage gets to a certain point (or when the calculated current exceeds some threshold, or heat gets to high, etc.)

The battery spec sheets list a 'charging current', or a current curve to maintain when charging (and also, discharging, btw)

So if packet batteries are anything like their hard packaged counterparts, it really doesn't matter the voltage of the battery pack as long as the charger can match the necessary current requirements of the battery - and of course, the voltage of the charger will always have to be significantly higher than that of the battery pack in order to generate the required current.

Anyhow, point is, some electronic devices are 'driven' by voltage, an audio source, for example, and some devices are driven by a current source, such as LEDs, for example.

Having said all of that, higher total voltage battery packs allow for smaller wires to generate the same power... up to a point where super high voltages would cause other issues.

BTW, an interesting spec on ALL battery data sheets is the amount of 'cycles' (full charge/discharge) a battery can take to maintain their guaranteed charge... also known as battery degradation which is very real.
 


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Former hardware engineer here: I've created battery chargers for li-ion batteries at the very small scale as well as NH batteries.

At least for the small batteries, charging is usually a constant current source and stopped when the voltage gets to a certain point (or when the calculated current exceeds some threshold, or heat gets to high, etc.)

The battery spec sheets list a 'charging current', or a current curve to maintain when charging (and also, discharging, btw)

So if packet batteries are anything like their hard packaged counterparts, it really doesn't matter the voltage of the battery pack as long as the charger can match the necessary current requirements of the battery - and of course, the voltage of the charger will always have to be significantly higher than that of the battery pack in order to generate the required current.

Anyhow, point is, some electronic devices are 'driven' by voltage, an audio source, for example, and some devices are driven by a current source, such as LEDs, for example.

Having said all of that, higher total voltage battery packs allow for smaller wires to generate the same power... up to a point where super high voltages would cause other issues.

BTW, an interesting spec on ALL battery data sheets is the amount of 'cycles' (full charge/discharge) a battery can take to maintain their guaranteed charge... also known as battery degradation which is very real.
Interesting read. What would be your choice for a 12v battery. I was hedging on Optima since I used them in my vette.
 

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Interesting read. What would be your choice for a 12v battery. I was hedging on Optima since I used them in my vette.
The Mach-E is a special small size, so your aftermarket options are limited. I recommend the OEM battery. Preventing battery drains is more about the software and settings on the car than the battery itself.
 

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Each charging session is a haggling between the vehicle and charger. Just watch the ChOAR Charger output current requested, and Charger Voltage required in Car Scanner app:

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