Latest Mach-E Brochure With Breakdowns of Features, Options, Packages (Including GT)

[Xenotet]

Here's what Mach-E marketing has told us so far:
1. GT order date is "late December 2020"
2. GT order date is "January 15th, 2021"
3. GT order date is "March 25th, 2021"
4. GT order date is "late April, 2021"
5. GT order date is "May 11th, 2021"
6. GT order date is "end of May, 2021"
The last date was the estimate from my Ford dealer, who says that "Ford really isn't telling us anything firm...this is just a rumor".

All of the dates, other than #6, were stated by the press and "internet press". All were ridiculously wrong. I have ZERO faith in anything ANYONE is telling us.

Source for 5 and 6, please. Everything I can find still points to April’21.

I think you might be mixing up GT news with an old post estimating that the FE order bank would be opening up on May 11, 2020 - last year.

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[GoGoGadgetMachE]

NOTE: Based on previous predictions, I sold my Focus RS last week. WTF????? I am now carless. To say that I'm furiously angry is a HUGE understatement. Do the Ford executives understand how badly they're f*cking us over?

wait you sold your car before you were even able to order the replacement - let alone take delivery - and that's anyone's fault but yours?

nope, it's not. it's yours. selling before you had the other one in hand was just silly. That would be true for ordering literally anything from any manufacturer ever. If you don't have the replacement in hand, you don't have the replacement in hand.

you can be angry all you want - but be angry at yourself.

 

[RetiredDP]

wait you sold your car before you were even able to order the replacement - let alone take delivery - and that's anyone's fault but yours?

nope, it's not. it's yours. selling before you had the other one in hand was just silly. That would be true for ordering literally anything from any manufacturer ever. If you don't have the replacement in hand, you don't have the replacement in hand.

you can be angry all you want - but be angry at yourself.

You don't realize my situation...I have multiple cars. I sold my RS, like any smart person should, at the peak of demand for my RS. I got the greatest possible return. I am willing to drive one of my other cars until an EV that I want shows up.

That doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Ford's inability to announce upcoming order dates, and stick to their word. Ford Marketing's unwilling to keep us informed as to how things are going. We've seen multiple shots of Mach-E GTs on the road, supplied by our forum members. But where's the GT options list? What are the GT options price lists? You can hear the Ford crickets chirping.

I now have two other EV's on my buy list...the updated-and-improved Jaguar I-pace, and the Kia EV6 GT. Ford is going to lose out to the competition if they keep stalling. Buehler...er, Ford? Ford? What does Ford Marketing actually DO? The silence is deafening.

BTW, all will be forgiven if the GT is going to get an 800-volt upgrade. But throw us a few crumbs of information, PLEASE!

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

You don't realize my situation...I have multiple cars. I sold my RS, like any smart person should, at the peak of demand for my RS. I got the greatest possible return. I am willing to drive one of my other cars until an EV that I want shows up.

That doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Ford's inability to announce upcoming order dates, and stick to their word. Ford Marketing's unwilling to keep us informed as to how things are going. We've seen multiple shots of Mach-E GTs on the road, supplied by our forum members. But where's the GT options list? What are the GT options price lists? You can hear the Ford crickets chirping.

I now have two other EV's on my buy list...the udated-and-improved Jaguar I-pace, and the Kia EV6 GT. Ford is going to lose out to the competition if they keep stalling. Buehler...er, Ford? Ford? What does Ford Marketing actually DO? The silence is deafening.

BTW, all will be forgiven if the GT is going to get an 800-volt upgrade. But throw us a few crumbs of information, PLEASE!

well, you said:

WTF????? I am now carless.

which I took to mean you didn't have a car - the reactions to my post strongly suggest I'm not the only one that took it that way. It sounds like you're saying that ultimately selling the RS was a decision that had multiple factors of which the Mach-E GT's eventual existence was one of, maybe even the least of since that has nearly nothing to do with the peak of demand for the RS... used car prices are crazy high right now and that's completely unrelated to the availability of the Mach-E GT (although there's underlying shared causes - there are people on this site that seem to think that COVID-19 isn't a thing [*]).

you're relatively new around here so it's understandable that you wouldn't know this, but the perceived lack of communication from Ford has been hammered on again and again and again on this very site, including by me at times.

none of this justifies this though:

To say that I'm furiously angry is a HUGE understatement.

furiously angry is an understatement? really? come on.

your inability to order a GT at the moment is apparently by far the biggest issue in your life right now based on "furiously angry" but there are plenty of people on here that have much more justification for being even slightly angry. there are people on here that reserved on announcement night, ordered almost a year ago, and don't yet know when they will have cars. some of those are "First Editions" even.

your reaction is coming across as completely out of proportion to the situation, and stating you were "carless" when you are clearly not didn't help things any.

I work at a product company, and I see again and again that if Marketing promises something, and the date is missed for whatever legitimate reason, people lose their minds. It happened on this very site with the non-GTs where dates slipped for legitimate reasons and we're still setting people bitching about it here today. If I were Ford Marketing, seeing how entitled people are acting on here, I'd be quiet about dates too at this point. Better to not say anything at this point than give people an estimate, have it be taken as thus gospel, and then hearing never-ending complaining about the estimate being missed.

The Ford site currently says "Late Summer 2021" (which in the given context is Northern Hemisphere Summer presumably) in at least two places:

That's all we have right now. I guarantee that if it's say September 1 when it's available, there will be people on here screaming "I WAS PROMISED LATE SUMMER AND SEPTEMBER DOESN'T COUNT FORD SUX0RS."

if this is all unacceptable to you, and you choose to purchase something else, then while I'm sure Ford feels losing a customer always sucks, I guarantee that someone else will buy the car. I hope you enjoy the Kia or Jaguar that you purchase instead (genuinely I do).

[*] in before "I'm sick of COVID-19 being used as an excuse for things even though Michigan is being called a 'lost cause' and people are still dying all over the place and supply chain is f*cked"

 

[GJG-Mach-E]

When I open this brochure as a PDF, the S/O/P marks don't line up at all with the line items they are assigned to. Does it make more sense in the hard copy version of the brochure? Also, when I looked at the Ford website before I bought my Premium, it had no options other than the floor mats. Are the options listed in the brochure for future builds, like the Brembo brakes?

OK, I answered my own question. The S/O/P marks are for the columns right of them. The first column is for the standard features. My bad.

 

[ChasingCoral]

You don't realize my situation...I have multiple cars. I sold my RS, like any smart person should, at the peak of demand for my RS. I got the greatest possible return. I am willing to drive one of my other cars until an EV that I want shows up.

That doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Ford's inability to announce upcoming order dates, and stick to their word. Ford Marketing's unwilling to keep us informed as to how things are going. We've seen multiple shots of Mach-E GTs on the road, supplied by our forum members. But where's the GT options list? What are the GT options price lists? You can hear the Ford crickets chirping.

I now have two other EV's on my buy list...the udated-and-improved Jaguar I-pace, and the Kia EV6 GT. Ford is going to lose out to the competition if they keep stalling. Buehler...er, Ford? Ford? What does Ford Marketing actually DO? The silence is deafening.

BTW, all will be forgiven if the GT is going to get an 800-volt upgrade. But throw us a few crumbs of information, PLEASE!

So, you said you were carless when you really aren’t? Was that just a ploy to try to get sympathy or something? GMAFB

 

[RetiredDP]

"You wouldn't know this, but the perceived lack of communication from Ford has been hammered on again and again and again on this very site, including by me at times."..."Your reaction is coming across as completely out of proportion to the situation, and stating you were "carless" when you are clearly not didn't help things any."..."I work at a product company, and I see again and again that if Marketing promises something, and the date is missed for whatever legitimate reason, people lose their minds."

MY RESPONSE:

1. I am "carless" in terms of COMPETITION cars. I should have been more specific. It's tough to do track days in my wife's RAV4 hybrid.

2. You've complained in the past about a lack of info from Ford? Hopefully, if we complain MORE, the forum members here who are Ford employees will get some word back to Marketing to try and improve the situation.

3. People "lose their minds" when dates are continually slipped, with no reason for the slippage EVER being given. We here aren't the only ones who are pissed...Ford dealer salesmen are also concerned, as well as the workers at the Ford and Mach-E "help lines". There's a complete vacuum of response from Marketing. Evidently, forum members are continually "hammering and hammering" about the lack of communication from Marketing. Why is the info-embargo not reducing?

 

[Dmcerm]

well, you said:


which I took to mean you didn't have a car - the reactions to my post strongly suggest I'm not the only one that took it that way. It sounds like you're saying that ultimately selling the RS was a decision that had multiple factors of which the Mach-E GT's eventual existence was one of, maybe even the least of since that has nearly nothing to do with the peak of demand for the RS... used car prices are crazy high right now and that's completely unrelated to the availability of the Mach-E GT (although there's underlying shared causes - there are people on this site that seem to think that COVID-19 isn't a thing [*]).

you're relatively new around here so it's understandable that you wouldn't know this, but the perceived lack of communication from Ford has been hammered on again and again and again on this very site, including by me at times.

none of this justifies this though:



furiously angry is an understatement? really? come on.

your inability to order a GT at the moment is apparently by far the biggest issue in your life right now based on "furiously angry" but there are plenty of people on here that have much more justification for being even slightly angry. there are people on here that reserved on announcement night, ordered almost a year ago, and don't yet know when they will have cars. some of those are "First Editions" even.

your reaction is coming across as completely out of proportion to the situation, and stating you were "carless" when you are clearly not didn't help things any.

I work at a product company, and I see again and again that if Marketing promises something, and the date is missed for whatever legitimate reason, people lose their minds. It happened on this very site with the non-GTs where dates slipped for legitimate reasons and we're still setting people bitching about it here today. If I were Ford Marketing, seeing how entitled people are acting on here, I'd be quiet about dates too at this point. Better to not say anything at this point than give people an estimate, have it be taken as thus gospel, and then hearing never-ending complaining about the estimate being missed.

The Ford site currently says "Late Summer 2021" (which in the given context is Northern Hemisphere Summer presumably) in at least two places:

That's all we have right now. I guarantee that if it's say September 1 when it's available, there will be people on here screaming "I WAS PROMISED LATE SUMMER AND SEPTEMBER DOESN'T COUNT FORD SUX0RS."

if this is all unacceptable to you, and you choose to purchase something else, then while I'm sure Ford feels losing a customer always sucks, I guarantee that someone else will buy the car. I hope you enjoy the Kia or Jaguar that you purchase instead (genuinely I do).

[*] in before "I'm sick of COVID-19 being used as an excuse for things even though Michigan is being called a 'lost cause' and people are still dying all over the place and supply chain is f*cked"

Couldn't agree more. Seemed a bit short-sighted on his part. Everything we've read since the first delivery would have indicated not to 'bank' on any of the timelines... which I don't/can't fault Ford for since it's such a new platform. Weird.

 

[CHeil402]

The Ford site currently says "Late Summer 2021" (which in the given context is Northern Hemisphere Summer presumably) in at least two places:

Agreed. I don't think Ford has ever said anything about deliveries of the GT starting before "Late Summer" and at no point has that changed. They could still very well meet that goal even if they haven't confirmed orders yet. They technically did meet the MME delivery goals of "End of 2020" albeit by three special delivery Texas orders, but still.

Regardless, Ford NEVER said it would have GT deliveries in Spring 2021, so you can't possibly be mad at Ford for being carless when you sell your car in April.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Agreed. I don't think Ford has ever said anything about deliveries of the GT starting before "Late Summer" and at no point has that changed. They could still very well meet that goal even if they haven't confirmed orders yet. They technically did meet the MME delivery goals of "End of 2020" albeit by three special delivery Texas orders, but still.

Regardless, Ford NEVER said it would have GT deliveries in Spring 2021, so you can't possibly be mad at Ford for being carless when you sell your car in April.

Actually they did -- in November 2019:
"Those looking for the thrill of the Mach-E GT can make reservations now for deliveries starting in spring 2021."
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...9/11/17/all-electric-ford-mustang-mach-e.html

However, there have been lots of updates in the last 17 months.

 

[CHeil402]

Actually they did -- in November 2019:
"Those looking for the thrill of the Mach-E GT can make reservations now for deliveries starting in spring 2021."
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...9/11/17/all-electric-ford-mustang-mach-e.html

However, there have been lots of updates in the last 17 months.

My mistake. Although still, that could mean late June.

 

[ChasingCoral]

3. People "lose their minds" when dates are continually slipped, with no reason for the slippage EVER being given.

I guess you haven't been reading the news. There's this think called COVID-19 that's killed more than 1/2 million people in the US alone. It's kind of messed up supply chains. There's also this global microchip shortage. Shit happens man!

 

[CHeil402]

I guess you haven't been reading the news. There's this think called COVID-19 that's killed more than 1/2 million people in the US alone. It's kind of messed up supply chains. There's also this global microchip shortage. Shit happens man!

I don't know what you're talking about. It was cured a year ago...

 

[buzznwood]

You don't realize my situation...I have multiple cars. I sold my RS, like any smart person should, at the peak of demand for my RS. I got the greatest possible return. I am willing to drive one of my other cars until an EV that I want shows up.

That doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Ford's inability to announce upcoming order dates, and stick to their word. Ford Marketing's unwilling to keep us informed as to how things are going. We've seen multiple shots of Mach-E GTs on the road, supplied by our forum members. But where's the GT options list? What are the GT options price lists? You can hear the Ford crickets chirping.

I now have two other EV's on my buy list...the updated-and-improved Jaguar I-pace, and the Kia EV6 GT. Ford is going to lose out to the competition if they keep stalling. Buehler...er, Ford? Ford? What does Ford Marketing actually DO? The silence is deafening.

BTW, all will be forgiven if the GT is going to get an 800-volt upgrade. But throw us a few crumbs of information, PLEASE!

In a similar boat I had made up my mind that my focus RS was going to be sold and replaced with the GT while the focus ST would be keep as my ICE for the long journeys. I had used the RS so little last year that I sold it in march this year while the prices where good. As with rumors of some GT's being 2021 I didn't expect to see any traction until the end of year so I could see no point in having the RS sitting around in the garage any longer.

I am still not jumping ship and will be keeping my GT reservation but Ford really need to make it something very special as all the delays means there is more competition on the horizon such as the kia EV6 GT has very impressive performance specs on paper and already has my eye.

Ford can make the GT very competitive, especially on the handling front but they really need to dip into using the best of the c2 performance parts bin and not make the GT little more than an appearance trim, they have the engineering talent to do so lets hope all these delays gives them that opportunity so a performance edition really lives up to the name.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

MY RESPONSE:

1. I am "carless" in terms of COMPETITION cars. I should have been more specific. It's tough to do track days in my wife's RAV4 hybrid.

2. You've complained in the past about a lack of info from Ford? Hopefully, if we complain MORE, the forum members here who are Ford employees will get some word back to Marketing to try and improve the situation.

3. People "lose their minds" when dates are continually slipped, with no reason for the slippage EVER being given. We here aren't the only ones who are pissed...Ford dealer salesmen are also concerned, as well as the workers at the Ford and Mach-E "help lines". There's a complete vacuum of response from Marketing. Evidently, forum members are continually "hammering and hammering" about the lack of communication from Marketing. Why is the info-embargo not reducing?

wow. okay.

well yes, you should have been more specific - being "carless" in America for many would be a disastrous situation that would impact their ability to get to and from work, the store, etc. Being without a "competition' car is a very different situation. And that doesn't change that you sold a good without even having the replacement ordered, let alone in hand, which is entirely your fault. This is not a Ford thing, or even a car thing. It would be exactly the same if I said "I voluntarily tore my roof off my house because Tesla promised me a solar roof and now I have no roof and it's all Tesla's fault," to use a real life example from the world right now.

You made a choice to sell your car - nobody forced you - then when called on it, you said "well it was really the best choice because prices". You can't have it both ways. Either you did the right thing or you didn't. And either way, it has nothing to do with Ford whatsoever. This is a basic fact. Doesn't matter if you agree.

Nobody at Ford will be motivated by you going unhinged about being "beyond FURIOUSLY ANGRY". There's another person on here I won't name that thinks threatening Ford employees with bodily harm will motivate them. Nope. Instead, you just sound rude.

The communication thing has been beaten into the ground here. You're literally adding nothing to it except I suppose another person complaining. And let me be very clear - I don't give a fig what dealer salesmen say concern them. All they are concerned with is this month's quota. That's it. Anything else they tell you is a lie. If they are concerned, it's because they were hoping to sell you the car sooner. They will sell it later. If not to you, to someone. And quickly.

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