More Mach-E GT 1/4 mile track results

[Mach1E]

These test track professional lap times seem surprisingly slow to me. Slower than an AWD Durango? Am I misinterpreting this video?

Oof that’s so slow it makes me sick.

What happened to the first track video where it was “so quick it made me sick??”

Those words have never been used to describe a v6 Durango around a track.

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[CharleyCarlos]

Oof that’s so slow it makes me sick.

What happened to the first track video where it was “so quick it made me sick??”

Those words have never been used to describe a v6 Durango around a track.

Exactly.

the marketing had me totally fooled, I really believed this car would show fantastic performance doing laps on a track, despite the 1/4 mile issues.

deflated.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Point of order:
We have been told time, and time again, this is a Mustang. We aren’t talking about a truck, we are talking about a Mustang GT.

I think you missed that I was actually referring to the truck, as in, the F-150 Lightning in that part of the comment.

And we’ve been through this #itsnotamustang stuff way too many times. Mustang is now a brand, any argument to the contrary is over with. The Mustang Mach-E GT needs to trap higher in the 1/4 mile or there’s a failure, that part I’ll agree with 100%.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Whiplike the SS….
Super charging V8s is what car life is about lol

I had a SC coyote and if it wasn’t because I was chasing numbers versus street manners I would still own that car.

Haha, I’ve owned a Vortech Si trim Fox body and another with a Powerdyne, both at 9psi and heads/cam/intake, so yeah, fun times for sure. My ‘12 GT/CS never got boost, just the FRP tune, CAI, exhaust and a bunch of Boss 302 and GT500 suspension/brake stuff.

 

[vakane]

Haha, I’ve owned a Vortech Si trim Fox body and another with a Powerdyne, both at 9psi and heads/cam/intake, so yeah, fun times for sure. My ‘12 GT/CS never got boost, just the FRP tune, CAI, exhaust and a bunch of Boss 302 and GT500 suspension/brake stuff.

I’ve since learned my lesson. 500 whp rwd manual on a well balanced vehicle that’s not too tall makes for the fun stuff.
My Rx7 had power just not the torque… the mach e had me with them torque figured but I’ve read up and understood where most EVs are and I’m not there yet.

 

[jeffziss]

Here are my time slips from Ford Fest 21 on Friday Night. I was car #634. I don't know if anyone has seen better times than these.

For fun, here is a video of Vaughn Gitten Jr drifting and doing donuts in my car. Hoping to see people start posting the external shots. Everyone that approached me said it was sick watching him drift and AWD car and getting it to do donuts!



Just for fun, stopped into CMP while in Bowling Green, KY. 10/10ths Motorsports was awesome and let me run some laps with them. Times aren't anything special but without a picture...it didn't happen.

Also waiting for final results but I'm pretty sure I finished Top 10 in the Holley Performance Grand Championship at Ford Fest. And yes, at 2k miles, I will need new tires!

#vaughngittinjr #rtrvehicles #fordperformance #skycharger

 

[vakane]

What was running ext to you that tan 11.7?

 

[JcMarin]

How was someone supposed to divine that the car would be so lackluster.

You could not, that's why I clarified on a later post that for those that found out about the limitations in performance after they had their car's delivered it sucked! But the question was posted for those of us who have yet to get them.

What I'm concluding, based on the alternative cars that people are getting instead of the GT, is that my criteria for selecting the MME GT was completely different.

My criteria:

• SUV
  • This will replace our current SUV as my wife's “family” car (My other car is a 2 seater which makes going to Costco and buying the 18 Roll paper towel pack a challenge)
• EV
  • We have decided to go EV on one of our cars and the family car makes more sense and allows me to keep my 2 seater “Sports Car” options for the second car
• 55K Budget
  • My GT (non PE) was spec'd to be ~ $54K after tax rebates accounted for

I keep seeing people mentioning $80 to $100K Cars and Sports Coupe's as alternatives which would not work for me, for my criteria the GT still delivers.

Of course, I could go with the MME 4X and save some bucks, but I do like the idea of the faster GT, even if it's just on the 0 to 60 going to Costco.

I could also go with a Model Y and get better performance, but it would still be more expensive since there is no tax rebate for TESLA anymore, and honestly I can't get past the looks and build quality.

If the KIA EV6 GT was ready, I would definitely consider it an alternative, but for now and since I need to get my SUV replaced this year, I think the MME GT will be it.

BTW. here are the specs of the options I've been considering, did I miss any EV-SUV?

 

[vakane]

You could not, that's why I clarified on a later post that for those that found out about the limitations in performance after they had their car's delivered it sucked! But the question was posted for those of us who have yet to get them.

What I'm concluding, based on the alternative cars that people are getting instead of the GT, is that my criteria for selecting the MME GT was completely different.

My criteria:

• SUV
  • This will replace our current SUV as my wife's “family” car (My other car is a 2 seater which makes going to Costco and buying the 18 Roll paper towel pack a challenge)
• EV
  • We have decided to go EV on one of our cars and the family car makes more sense and allows me to keep my 2 seater “Sports Car” options for the second car
• 55K Budget
  • My GT (non PE) was spec'd to be ~ $54K after tax rebates accounted for

I keep seeing people mentioning $80 to $100K Cars and Sports Coupe's as alternatives which would not work for me, for my criteria the GT still delivers.

Of course, I could go with the MME 4X and save some bucks, but I do like the idea of the faster GT, even if it's just on the 0 to 60 going to Costco.

I could also go with a Model Y and get better performance, but it would still be more expensive since there is no tax rebate for TESLA anymore, and honestly I can't get past the looks and build quality.

If the KIA EV6 GT was ready, I would definitely consider it an alternative, but for now and since I need to get my SUV replaced this year, I think the MME GT will be it.

BTW. here are the specs of the options I've been considering, did I miss any EV-SUV?

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Did you already drive one?
Even a regular one?
Based on your criteria I’d say try the 4wd in ext range and it will drive better and faster than you imagine and is more than 10k cheaper and you’ll get the income reduction tax… ( it’s a deduction not a rebate)

 

[buzznwood]

I’ve since learned my lesson. 500 whp rwd manual on a well balanced vehicle that’s not too tall makes for the fun stuff.
My Rx7 had power just not the torque… the mach e had me with them torque figured but I’ve read up and understood where most EVs are and I’m not there yet.

The % ratio of power to torque figure of the GTPE reads more in line with a diesel engine than what one would expect from a dual motor EV. While my reasons for the GTPE where down to my requirement for adaptive suspension and it being the only trim level to offer it, so the performance was just a bonus or as it stands at present the lack off lol.

Can understand you sticking with ICE and waiting it out until things improve to a point where there will be more performance orientated BEVS to chose from, if the EV6 GT lives up to its numbers and is priced similarly then Ford are going to have some very stiff competition in the want an BEV but don't want a Tesla landscape and will need to have a serious rethink on what constitutes a performance BEV, or at least when to not use the performance moniker in a model trim, unless of course there truly are no battery limitations and allowing full dual motor power is just an OTA away.

 

[vakane]

The % ratio of power to torque figure of the GTPE reads more in line with a diesel engine than what one would expect from a dual motor EV. While my reasons for the GTPE where down to my requirement for adaptive suspension and it being the only trim level to offer it, so the performance was just a bonus or as it stands at present the lack off lol.

Can understand you sticking with ICE and waiting it out until things improve to a point where there will be more performance orientated BEVS to chose from, if the EV6 GT lives up to its numbers and is priced similarly then Ford are going to have some very stiff competition in the want an BEV but don't want a Tesla landscape and will need to have a serious rethink on what constitutes a performance BEV, or at least when to not use the performance moniker in a model trim, unless of course there truly are no battery limitations and allowing full dual motor power is just an OTA away.

What I read on that “the drive” article about the RPMs on the current motors said otherwise… I would read that article as he explains (not sure it’s true or what) why the motors die past 60 mph… im no expert but it sounded like it wasn’t a software thing.

maybe you already read it and understood it better than me.

 

[sotek2345]

You could not, that's why I clarified on a later post that for those that found out about the limitations in performance after they had their car's delivered it sucked! But the question was posted for those of us who have yet to get them.

What I'm concluding, based on the alternative cars that people are getting instead of the GT, is that my criteria for selecting the MME GT was completely different.

My criteria:

• SUV
  • This will replace our current SUV as my wife's “family” car (My other car is a 2 seater which makes going to Costco and buying the 18 Roll paper towel pack a challenge)
• EV
  • We have decided to go EV on one of our cars and the family car makes more sense and allows me to keep my 2 seater “Sports Car” options for the second car
• 55K Budget
  • My GT (non PE) was spec'd to be ~ $54K after tax rebates accounted for

I keep seeing people mentioning $80 to $100K Cars and Sports Coupe's as alternatives which would not work for me, for my criteria the GT still delivers.

Of course, I could go with the MME 4X and save some bucks, but I do like the idea of the faster GT, even if it's just on the 0 to 60 going to Costco.

I could also go with a Model Y and get better performance, but it would still be more expensive since there is no tax rebate for TESLA anymore, and honestly I can't get past the looks and build quality.

If the KIA EV6 GT was ready, I would definitely consider it an alternative, but for now and since I need to get my SUV replaced this year, I think the MME GT will be it.

BTW. here are the specs of the options I've been considering, did I miss any EV-SUV?

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We have almost identical criteria, though less of a bent towards a family vehicle. We are replacing my wife's Mini Countryman as her daily driver / commuter and wanted to go to an EV. Of the available options she liked the looks of the Mach-e the best. We went with a GT pretty much just to get the Cyber Orange color. I know we could switch to a lower trim now but she also wants the Extended range battery and a metal roof and you still need a GT to get that combo. We also aren't up for waiting another 6 to 8 months.

I am keeping my Shelby as the fun car and my truck will still be around for hauling things. We may switch over to road tripping the Mach-e (instead of the truck) until I get my Lightning, especially in Canada (high fuel prices)

 

[blue92lx]

You could not, that's why I clarified on a later post that for those that found out about the limitations in performance after they had their car's delivered it sucked! But the question was posted for those of us who have yet to get them.

What I'm concluding, based on the alternative cars that people are getting instead of the GT, is that my criteria for selecting the MME GT was completely different.

My criteria:

• SUV
  • This will replace our current SUV as my wife's “family” car (My other car is a 2 seater which makes going to Costco and buying the 18 Roll paper towel pack a challenge)
• EV
  • We have decided to go EV on one of our cars and the family car makes more sense and allows me to keep my 2 seater “Sports Car” options for the second car
• 55K Budget
  • My GT (non PE) was spec'd to be ~ $54K after tax rebates accounted for

I keep seeing people mentioning $80 to $100K Cars and Sports Coupe's as alternatives which would not work for me, for my criteria the GT still delivers.

Of course, I could go with the MME 4X and save some bucks, but I do like the idea of the faster GT, even if it's just on the 0 to 60 going to Costco.

I could also go with a Model Y and get better performance, but it would still be more expensive since there is no tax rebate for TESLA anymore, and honestly I can't get past the looks and build quality.

If the KIA EV6 GT was ready, I would definitely consider it an alternative, but for now and since I need to get my SUV replaced this year, I think the MME GT will be it.

BTW. here are the specs of the options I've been considering, did I miss any EV-SUV?

View attachment 39378

It's exactly the same here too. The main difference is I've always had cars, I love cars, but my wife is tired of me needing her SUV whenever I go on road trips with my mountain bike. She doesn't like cars, she hates driving my car, and she's stuck with it the whole time I'm out of town. So that's the only reason I started looking at anything to be honest.

I thought if I'm going to have to get an SUV then I want something fast and fun too. It's been too long since I've had a sports car.

Also wanted to try full EV since I love it when my hybrid rides on battery alone.

My budget is maxxed out with a $65k GT, people who are opting for $100k cars aren't in the same boat. I can't just throw my hands up and go buy an Audi or a Porsche or something else "until EVs get better".

I do have to say though I'm going today or tomorrow to test a Genesis GV70 out of curiosity. It looks super nice and it's exactly the same price as a MME GT. Although not as fast, but the interior looks super nice. Just figured I'd look at one so I know what's out there as another option just in case.

 

[buzznwood]

It's exactly the same here too. The main difference is I've always had cars, I love cars, but my wife is tired of me needing her SUV whenever I go on road trips with my mountain bike. She doesn't like cars, she hates driving my car, and she's stuck with it the whole time I'm out of town. So that's the only reason I started looking at anything to be honest.

I thought if I'm going to have to get an SUV then I want something fast and fun too. It's been too long since I've had a sports car.

Also wanted to try full EV since I love it when my hybrid rides on battery alone.

My budget is maxxed out with a $65k GT, people who are opting for $100k cars aren't in the same boat. I can't just throw my hands up and go buy an Audi or a Porsche or something else "until EVs get better".

I do have to say though I'm going today or tomorrow to test a Genesis GV70 out of curiosity. It looks super nice and it's exactly the same price as a MME GT. Although not as fast, but the interior looks super nice. Just figured I'd look at one so I know what's out there as another option just in case.

I had a couple of similar requirements, I generally avoid glass roofs, think the front end on the GT looks the best where as the standard vehicle looks a bit unfinished to my eyes and most importantly I will not entertain the idea of a BEV that doesn't have some form of adaptive suspension, which pretty much limited the mach-e to the GTPE trim.

At present the only real performance party piece a BEV can bring to the table vs an ICE is the acceleration as the heavy weight is always going to be a compromised when it comes to the handling stakes, when you look at the current crop of SUV/CUV BEVS not all manufactures have gone down using the acceleration as a selling point and have instead target figures similar to existing ICE products. So for those that do not have performance at the top of the list of requirements then the current level of performance of the GT / GTPE will no doubt suffice as once you get down into the 3's for a 0-60 it is going to feel fast along with the feeling of instant torque you get from the motors.

For those that are all in on wanting to experience that BEV acceleration party piece to its full potential beyond just the 0-60 metric than as it stands now with the GT / GTPE you may very well be in for a major disappoint as currently the numbers are just not there for a performance derived BEV, so make sure your test drive covers test cases to see if it meets your expectations as with weeks of radio silence on the subject from Ford the lack of performance in a 'performance edition' appears to meet the manufactures expectations.

 

[blue92lx]

I had a couple of similar requirements, I generally avoid glass roofs, think the front end on the GT looks the best where as the standard vehicle looks a bit unfinished to my eyes and most importantly I will not entertain the idea of a BEV that doesn't have some form of adaptive suspension, which pretty much limited the mach-e to the GTPE trim.

At present the only real performance party piece a BEV can bring to the table vs an ICE is the acceleration as the heavy weight is always going to be a compromised when it comes to the handling stakes, when you look at the current crop of SUV/CUV BEVS not all manufactures have gone down using the acceleration as a selling point and have instead target figures similar to existing ICE products. So for those that do not have performance at the top of the list of requirements then the current level of performance of the GT / GTPE will no doubt suffice as once you get down into the 3's for a 0-60 it is going to feel fast along with the feeling of instant torque you get from the motors.

For those that are all in on wanting to experience that BEV acceleration party piece to its full potential beyond just the 0-60 metric than as it stands now with the GT / GTPE you may very well be in for a major disappoint as currently the numbers are just not there for a performance derived BEV, so make sure your test drive covers test cases to see if it meets your expectations as with weeks of radio silence on the subject from Ford the lack of performance in a 'performance edition' appears to meet the manufactures expectations.

Yeah and at this point I think I may even be looking at some time in December to get mine delivered. I still have time for sure. The GV70 is geared away from performance at least in the corners, focused more on luxury, but fits right into that Audi SQ5 and BMW X3 M40i segment perfectly with better interior. About to leave now to go check it out and see what I think, then I'll have 2 months to sit and wait to make a decision. For handling the BEV's get the advantage of having the weight low in the car, even the GV70 is almost 4400lbs without that advantage.

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