One Pedal driving Mach-E? Are you a fan?

Are you a fan of one-pedal driving?


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JamieGeek

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He didnt do the PHEV training wheel program like I did. He went straight from ICE to BEV. It has been about 3 months now since he bought his M3. The day he gave me a ride it was about 105 out and the A/C struggled to keep the cabin at a comfortable temp for me. My FFE does a much better job by comparison. Today's high was 117 and very comfortable inside the car with climate control set at 74 degrees. Doesnt use much power either. The weekend before I converted my order, my wife and I test drove a Model Y and the A/C was not as effective as we hoped so that was the final straw that tipped us towards the Mach E since we both know the A/C is going to perform well in AZ.

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Yeah the FFE is/was always really good with A/C keeping things nice and cool.

The Bolt also does a pretty good job without consuming much extra battery.

In both cases driving around on a really hot day doesn't impact your range much (looks like you're averaging about 320 Wh/mile in this display or just above 3 miles/kWh--that seems a bit high for a FFE).
 

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I have been driving a Bolt for over 2 years now and don't use the one-pedal driving. I do let off the accelerator pedal and allow it to regen that way. I also use the paddle on the left side of the steering wheel to decelerate and can go all the way to full stop with the paddle. I still average ~220 miles per charge. Yes, I take it down to <30 miles before charging.
 

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There is a skill required to drive an EV well and it's fun to learn all these new techniques. Some like to maximize efficiency, others like to make their drive tires last as long as possible because EVs destroy tires if the driver isn't careful. Max acceleration is learned by the driver. A skilled driver will always accelerate faster compared to a driver who just mashes the pedal to the floor (all else being equal of course). The software will derate the power to the motor when wheel spin is detected but a skilled driver can feel that limit and limit the derate effect.
There was a guy on the C-Max Forum way back in 2013. He got 800 miles on a single tank. The best I ever did was low 600s. For the past couple of years though it has been 500 since I just don't pay much attention anymore. Both numbers are in reference to the pure hybrid, not the plug-in models.
 

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I watched a podcast on the subject a while back and one of the panel guests was from Magna International which is the company responsible for helping Ford bring the Focus Electric to market. The subject of 1 pedal driving was discussed in some detail. All else being equal, it takes a specific amount of energy to increase speed from A to B. The energy recovered via regeneration from B to A is always less.
Do you happen to have a link? I'd like to listen to this.
 


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I'm almost afraid I'll like it too much, or get too used to it. Like many mainstream buyers, we'll have both a BEV and an ICE vehicle in our household (especially for road trips). I don't want it to be too big of a difference to jump back and forth.
I really don't think so. I have a Bolt and just love the 1 pedal option and when I switch to my other ICE vehicle, muscle memory kicks in.
 

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Yeah the FFE is/was always really good with A/C keeping things nice and cool.

The Bolt also does a pretty good job without consuming much extra battery.

In both cases driving around on a really hot day doesn't impact your range much (looks like you're averaging about 320 Wh/mile in this display or just above 3 miles/kWh--that seems a bit high for a FFE).
Yes. Pretty high. The price I pay for leaving it on while I am inside the store or shop that I am visiting. I work for a Sign and Lighting company so I travel around town during the day to check on the progress of our various crews and take an opportunity to make sure our customers are taken care of. What I do is park the car, exit the vehicle and then remote start it with my key fob. On a Ford, the remote start process also locks the doors so the vehicle sits there with the A/C running to keep the battery cool as well as condition the cabin. While I don't have what most here will consider a ton of range....the 115 miles I start with each day is almost always way more than I need. For those days where I need a little more....I have a L2 charger at work that is available to me.
 

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Do you happen to have a link? I'd like to listen to this.
Let me try and find it for you. I think it was a YouTube program actually.....it was part of all the research I was doing when we bought our first PHEV and excited about the technology. Have you seen the patent approval that was issued to Magna for the FFE cooling system? Very technical and full of interesting info...
 

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Once you get used to one pedal driving, it is hard to go back to the "old" way!!!!
I have to test that out first. Some passengers, including my wife, may get dizzy or offended if I dirve an EV with strong regeneration. I believe it will feel as bad as shifting to "Low" from "Drive" in a gasoline engine car. The passengers will feel too much decceleration (reverse acceleration) and complain. to the driver as if he stepped on the brakes.
 

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With regen braking both comfort and efficiency are driver skill dependent. If the driver treats the throttle as an "On/Off" switch, regen will be uncomfortable and inefficient. If the driver has the minimal skill level needed to feather the throttle, regen/(one pedal driving) braking is both more comfortable and more efficient. The comment about slowing down then speeding back up being inefficient is correct if that's the way you drive. i.e. you drive poorly. The correct way to drive one pedal is to feather the throttle to achieve the desired speed. If you do that you are getting the best efficiency for the conditions.
 

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It's sold as a hybrid with 30 miles (or whatever the number for that model) of electric range with 300 (or whatever) of gas range. Just because you logically use the EV miles first (home charging is cheaper than gas) before kicking into the gas doesn't mean you should be afraid to use gas around home. That's just silly. And if someone actually has that mindset, they're being silly.

But having said that, I could actually see some people being THAT silly. There are some hardcore EV people that probably think that way. Even though it doesn't make any sense.

But that's their self-imposed problem. Fortunately I'm not one of them. If I bought a PHEV, I'd be perfectly fine using gas after running out of electricity.
 

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Well again, that's just silly. And illogical. But oh well, it's their choice.
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