Mach-E Price Increases for All Trims Effective December 8, 2021

[ARK]

Ford's price cuts were right around the same time Tesla dropped the prices on the Y LR, which were around $3000, the first being $2000 and then another $1000.

Yup, that’s what’s so great about competition. Even for people who are very loyal to their preferred manufacturer, competition drives innovation and price decreases. Tesla’s existence spurred the development of the Mach-E, Mach-E’s launched spurred MY price cuts and launch of MY SR, and so on.

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[Mach1E]

Tesla announced this increase shortly after it became known that BBB had a provision to remove the 200k vehicle phase-out. That would allow Tesla buyers to claim the tax credit that they currently cannot. Maybe the timing was a coincidence, maybe not. If this was truly their rationale for the increase, it would seem they jumped the gun.

GM would be the only other EV manufacturer in a similar boat.

While we‘d like to believe that the tax credit is solely for the benefit of the consumer, it is still just one of the market forces that will ultimately determine the selling price. It’s complicated!

It’s not complicated, it’s absolute BS.

If this is the type of BS Tesla will pull, the government should put provisions on the bill to prevent manufacturers from price gouging and taking all the rebate money for themselves.

Since the bill isn’t passed yet, there’s still time. I hope the Senators are paying attention!

 

[Mach1E]

In preparation for it. If it doesn't pass, they can easily drop prices again. Even at current prices, there's still a large backlog of 6+ months, so people aren't price sensitive at the current prices. Note, prices aren't higher outside the US. Think about it.

The bill is pointless. The only thing is does is shift the money to the manufacturer, not the end user. Ford has their cars priced with the Federal credit in mind. Prices will adjust downward once the credit is fully consumed.

That part we can definitely agree on.

If manufacturers just raise prices in response, it’s just smoke and mirrors making people think the government is making cars more affordable.

Even worse if they keep some of the restrictions on where it’s built, who builds it and income limits on the purchaser.

If that’s the case, the end result would be the cars are prices the same for lower income individuals and actually a price increase for everyone else!

 

[yngwenli]

It’s not complicated, it’s absolute BS.

If this is the type of BS Tesla will pull, the government should put provisions on the bill to prevent manufacturers from price gouging and taking all the rebate money for themselves.

Since the bill isn’t passed yet, there’s still time. I hope the Senators are paying attention!

This is why I don't want the EV portion of the bill to pass honestly (any existing Mach-E orders will still qualify without this station wagon/SUV nonsense...people can buy 2 EVs in 2022)...If people want to pay Tesla 9k more, so be it.

I'd rather see new non 200k sold EV makers get the boost (as Tesla and GM did before) so it helps to bring more competition and more options.

A $7500 credit is a big carrot that Tesla doesn't really need. People are buying their stuff anyways, but new makers like Fisker? Yes, give them a bone (that Tesla and GM already exhausted).

We all know GM lowered prices on the Bolt right when the credit went down. Tesla also help themselves and released a mountain of car orders just before the credit started to drop/expire as well (I think this was in Dec the 2nd quarter after they hit 200k) when they were building cars in the parking lot, etc.

It's all part of the game. A new EV credit just starts a new game that doesn't help the consumer (since Tesla just raised prices).

 

[oaktekch]

It's official - Mach-E price increases went into effect today. Mach-E Select starts at $43,895, Premium at $49,100 and GT at $61,995. Adding extended range battery to premium is an extra $1K. And GT Performance Edition battery is also an extra $1K. This was all expected - and is now confirmed. Amazing car, just a tad more expensive!

 

[Dancefreak]

Yup. I just tried to build the car that I have on order. (Star White premium AWD extended battery) and the price is $2,000 higher now.

And despite the comments earlier that prices didn't already change...it went up around $600 transferring from a 2021 to 2022 order...though we're getting a $750 credit for that from Ford.

Hope previously ordered cars keep their prices...or there will be hell to pay.

 

[RMoore]

Just to confirm, does the MME price increase apply only to new orders moving forward? In other words if we have agreed on a price when we ordered early October, and have paperwork to that effect (including emails saying they accept X-plan) is that the price we will pay?

 

[yngwenli]

Just to confirm, does the MME price increase apply only to new orders moving forward? In other words if we have agreed on a price when we ordered early October, and have paperwork to that effect (including emails saying they accept X-plan) is that the price we will pay?

I just looked at my existing order and it has the old pricing numbers so unlike the 2021 to 2022 switch (it updated them to 2022 pricing), it didn't replace my base MSRP with the higher one.


Bad side is I also just checked X-Plan and X-Plan pricing has the higher MSRP compared to the pre-increase price so with X-Plan, it's now worst than your original MSRP (might as well not use X-Plan). I hope they let folks use the old X-Plan pricing prior to this change...

 

[Mach1E]

Yup. I just tried to build the car that I have on order. (Star White premium AWD extended battery) and the price is $2,000 higher now.

And despite the comments earlier that prices didn't already change...it went up around $600 transferring from a 2021 to 2022 order...though we're getting a $750 credit for that from Ford.

Hope previously ordered cars keep their prices...or there will be hell to pay.

Read post #15 again. The price was unchanged for a year and a half. Sept 2020- 42895, 2021-42895 and until this week even the 2022 was $42895.

The $600 was just Bluecruise becoming standard on models with that capability. Early orders would still have had to pay the $600 (or $500 if they got the $100 credit).

 

[Dancefreak]

Read post #15 again. The price was unchanged for a year and a half. Sept 2020- 42895, 2021-42895 and until this week even the 2022 was $42895.

The $600 was just Bluecruise becoming standard on models with that capability. Early orders would still have had to pay the $600 (or $500 if they got the $100 credit).

No. I’m not talking about the blue cruise change in the spring. Are you really still arguing that the car I ordered in august (which reflected blue cruise included) didn’t change in price when converted to a 2022? Because if that’s what you’re arguing, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[Dancefreak]

Bad side is I also just checked X-Plan and X-Plan pricing has the higher MSRP compared to the pre-increase price so with X-Plan, it's now worst than your original MSRP (might as well not use X-Plan). I hope they let folks use the old X-Plan pricing prior to this change...

well that majorly sucks and I agree that hopefully there’s some way to price by what things were when ordered. Though x-plan is technically a calculation so maybe we’re worried for nothing IF our old price is the base of that calculation.

 

[ADDZ71]

I ordered a replacement MME GT for my Premium on Tuesday. The paperwork that Ford requires to confirm that it is a real buyer identified the X-Plan price pre increase. I do not expect when delivered to pay anything different.

 

[RickMachE]

well that majorly sucks and I agree that hopefully there’s some way to price by what things were when ordered. Though x-plan is technically a calculation so maybe we’re worried for nothing IF our old price is the base of that calculation.

Yes, you are worried about nothing.

 

[Mach1E]

No. I’m not talking about the blue cruise change in the spring. Are you really still arguing that the car I ordered in august (which reflected blue cruise included) didn’t change in price when converted to a 2022? Because if that’s what you’re arguing, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Nope, just pointing out that according to the Ford website, there hasn’t been a price increase in 18 months. It was 42895 and now finally this week it’s $43895.

There is a $1000 price increase on the base model. Not $1600, not $600.

Where the $600 increase in your car came from then? No clue. If not Bluecruise, maybe Ford error before this actual $1-2k increase. Wouldn’t be the first time their websites had typos.

I posted direct links with pricing on the Ford website. Not sure how much clearer I could be on where the numbers came from.

Only other place I’ve seen the $600 were on threads like this:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...gust-delivered-in-october-vs-november….12047/

Just to be clear. I’m not saying you didn’t see a $600 change when they converted your order to a 2022. Just saying that something isn’t right about that because it’s not what Ford advertised if it isn’t Bluecruise.

 

[RickMachE]

The price increase on 2022s was first given, via email, to the people that had 2021s on order that were converted to 2022s. The website didn't show the 2022s until 10/2, and the price was in fact identical to the 2021 price. People that had 2021s on order that were converted to 2022s were notified the first week of October regarding a price increase and the new battery size. That increase was not to base price - hence the reason that the base price didn't change on the Ford website. That increase raised the base price for the premium by $500, and raised the cost of some colors, like Rapid Red Metallic, from $400 to $495. That increase of $595 was offset by the $750 rebate.

When ordering now, my 2021 that was $56,800 (Premium, extended battery, Ruby Red) and was changed to $57,395 (increase of $595 offset by $750 rebate) is now $58,295. That's a net increase over the 2021 price of $1,495.

The $600 price increase being discussed was not on the base model, it was on the package that included BlueCruise prep, which became BlueCruise-installed, on vehicles manufactured in Job 2. If you have a Job 1 vehicle, and upgrade to BlueCruise, then there was no price change, in fact you save $100, when you finally upgrade.

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