No all season tire option with GT performance edition

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Point taken on the 5 seconds, but STRONGLY disagree that it wasn’t “built for performance.”

Let’s compare it to an ICE Mustang GT for example:

Faster 0-60 than any Mustang GT ever built.

Better braking than almost every Mustang GT ever built (60-0 in 106 ft).

Better handling than almost every Mustang GT ever built (.99 G).

And all this from a 5000 lb SUV.

It was definitely built for performance, and those stats wouldn’t happen on crappy tires.
I agree with you that it was “built for performance” I disagree that it was “built for performance with no compromises”. Clearly there were some compromises if there is a limiter on performance to maintain range. Unless of course that was done for safety we just don’t know.

Either way I don’t like it when the customer isn’t given a choice. I should be able to determine that I want to give up some performance or some range. If the limiters are for battery range, give me the “I don’t care about range right now I need to smoke this model y” button. Where the car stops caring about range and just give you all the power it can.

Heres another thing: Magneride. Why is it only available on the PE when you could argue that it belongs more on the GT than the GTPE. People have said that in unbridled Magneride makes the ride as stiff as the suspension on the GT. Which means you can soften or compromise the performance on the PE for the sake of comfort. Given that the GT is the one with all season tires should it be the one with Magneride?

For me my ideal out of the factory build would have been no blue cruise no pano roof, magride, PE wheels on all season tires. I’ll go out and buy the summer and winter tires if I want to track the thing. The standard GT was the closest I could get but man do it hate my wheels.
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No because I would be unhappier if I bought a Mach E without the MagnaRide. I have a legitimate gripe and had filed my grievances with Ford. This is more of a disappointment with Ford, as it could of been an avoidable expense if Ford listened to it's customers in the first place. The MagnaRide suspension is superior to the stock, this just means I get to unnecessarily pay $1,800. more for it in tire replacement.
So, I should complain that Magna-ride wasn’t available on my First Edition? Because, I absolutely wish it was…
 

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I agree with you that it was “built for performance” I disagree that it was “built for performance with no compromises”. Clearly there were some compromises if there is a limiter on performance to maintain range. Unless of course that was done for safety we just don’t know.

Either way I don’t like it when the customer isn’t given a choice. I should be able to determine that I want to give up some performance or some range. If the limiters are for battery range, give me the “I don’t care about range right now I need to smoke this model y” button. Where the car stops caring about range and just give you all the power it can.

Heres another thing: Magneride. Why is it only available on the PE when you could argue that it belongs more on the GT than the GTPE. People have said that in unbridled Magneride makes the ride as stiff as the suspension on the GT. Which means you can soften or compromise the performance on the PE for the sake of comfort. Given that the GT is the one with all season tires should it be the one with Magneride?

For me my ideal out of the factory build would have been no blue cruise no pano roof, magride, PE wheels on all season tires. I’ll go out and buy the summer and winter tires if I want to track the thing. The standard GT was the closest I could get but man do it hate my wheels.
The PE isn’t a different model, it’s just an option on a GT. It’s the same for the ICE Mustang.

Your ideal that you described was just a base GTPE…… and swap out the tires. That would get you exactly the options you said.

Agree that they compromised on performance with the 5 seconds issues. I don’t think anyone will argue with that.
 


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I understand this is frustrating for the OP and perhaps others, and I realize that some manufacturers of performance cars do offer the option of all seasons upon ordering, but Ford didn't. As you can see, many here are happy with Ford's choice and I imagine Ford has done some market research here, but either way, that's just the way it is and presumably you knew that when you bought the car. So when you ordered the GTPE (because you wanted magneride), frustrated though you might have been, didn't you realize you would need to get a different set of tires? I appreciate your frustration but not sure why the continued arguments. You say Ford should have provided the options, others say they shouldn't. Not much more to say really.
 
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I understand this is frustrating for the OP and perhaps others, and I realize that some manufacturers of performance cars do offer the option of all seasons upon ordering, but Ford didn't. As you can see, many here are happy with Ford's choice and I imagine Ford has done some market research here, but either way, that's just the way it is and presumably you knew that when you bought the car. So when you ordered the GTPE (because you wanted magneride), frustrated though you might have been, didn't you realize you would need to get a different set of tires? I appreciate your frustration but not sure why the continued arguments. You say Ford should have provided the options, others say they shouldn't. Not much more to say really.
Yes there is... you know anyone in southeast Michigan that wants to buy a brand new set of 245/45R20 Pirelli Pzero summer tires?
 
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Why just not buy Pirelli winter tyres ? And switch when appropiate.
In the long run it is just as expensive as all season tyres
Breaking the bead on a tire twice a year is not good for it, and getting a second set of rims would be an additional and unnecessary expense.
 

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Breaking the bead on a tire twice a year is not good for it, and getting a second set of rims would be an additional and unnecessary expense.
Again, it’s a necessary expense if you own a performance car in a place it gets both hot and cold.

Do you wear shorts in the summer and pants in the winter? Or would you just call that an “unnecessary expense” and wear Capris year round?

Either way, it’s your choice, you can buy all seasons and sell your summer tires. Others in your same situation have.
 

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Nah, no other Mach E is beating a GTPE around a track.
Depends on the track. You’re probably right, but, I envision a scenario where unbridled extend neuters a GT enough to where a 4X can catch it. Maybe a big track like COTA or VIR. But the 4X would required a non-stock wheel/tire combo, otherwise, yeah, it ain’t happening. Either that or gray bars from hell would have to occur ?
 

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Depends on the track. You’re probably right, but, I envision a scenario where unbridled extend neuters a GT enough to where a 4X can catch it. Maybe a big track like COTA or VIR. But the 4X would required a non-stock wheel/tire combo, otherwise, yeah, it ain’t happening. Either that or gray bars from hell would have to occur ?
The acceleration may be close in unbridled extend, but there is a big difference in handling and braking.

Even if you put the GTPE wheels and tires on the 4X, the suspension and brakes still go to the GTPE.
 
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Again, it’s a necessary expense if you own a performance car in a place it gets both hot and cold.

Do you wear shorts in the summer and pants in the winter? Or would you just call that an “unnecessary expense” and wear Capris year round?

Either way, it’s your choice, you can buy all seasons and sell your summer tires. Others in your same situation have.
Dude I live in Michigan where 4 months out of the year the temperature can fluctuate greatly on either side of 45 degrees daily. As a result, during the spring and fall I could be swapping out my tires on a daily basis. So yeah I'll stick to wearing Capris pants all year long.
 
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Agree 95% - however, the newest AS UHP tires from Michelin (AS4) and Goodyear (Exhilarate) are now turning out lateral G and braking distances of the best summer tires from just a tire generation ago. .94+G and 70-0 braking in the 150s ft. Also, they have those 45K treadwear warrranties.

But yeah, the current best summers clearly beat them.
Curious of your opinion, are the GTPE Summers good ones?
 

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Curious of your opinion, are the GTPE Summers good ones?
They are very good in my experience. Very grippy in the dry and wet. You won't exceed their limits in street driving. My only complaint is that the car will understeer a bit when you push it really hard. That's less on the tires, and more on the way the handling is set up from the factory. In a warm climate you'll be happy with them. Below 40 degrees and they have less grip.
 

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Breaking the bead on a tire twice a year is not good for it, and getting a second set of rims would be an additional and unnecessary expense.
Been doing this on my AMG GLA45 for 6 years now. The tires wear down long before you have any bead issues.
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