Would you pay for a Tesla NACS retrofit?

[superdave80]

It (Tesla) also supports a higher rate of charging.

Does it? CCS charger spec shows 350kw, and Tesla's own website says " V4 currently supports peak rates of up to 250kW"

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[thekat03]

I've always been confused why this is still the format war people cite when blu ray vs hddvd was much more recent.

Granted I was born in the 90s

The rest of us are just OLD! ?

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Does it? CCS charger spec shows 350kw, and Tesla's own website says " V4 currently supports peak rates of up to 250kW"

It doesn't.
Even the previous version of the IEC 62196-1 standard (CCS) supported higher power, and the 2022 draft supports up to 1200 kW (1500 volts DC at 800 Amps).

 

[Nikos]

Does it? CCS charger spec shows 350kw, and Tesla's own website says " V4 currently supports peak rates of up to 250kW"

Dave....you will never going to see350KW coming out of any station. This is another " great lie ", a pipedream, pie in the sky stories. Anyways your vehicle, any EV out there today, is not capable to charge at that rate. These stations who advertise 350KW capability, can't even come close. If any maintain that kind of rate of charge, won't last long. That is the problem with EA. Their 350KW operate at 80-90KW continuous to preserve themselves. That is the only way they can stay functional. 250KW at a steady rate is something I can deal with. Anyways the Mach E and the Lightning are rated at around 150-200KW rates of charge. At 150KW steady rate, my Mach E will be charged to 80%, in around 30 min and my Lightning in 40 to 45min. Plenty of time for a bathroom break, grab a sandwich or play games on the screen.
EA, EV GO, ChargePoint, and many others can't even touch V3 or V4.
In most places where you have EA stations, withing a short distance there are Tesla stations that triple and quadruple in numbers.
There are areas where there are no CCS chargers of any kind, but Tesla superchargers.
I would like to be able to tap to this newly available resource, called Tesla Superchargers.

 

[astronut325]

Depends on the price and if they do a proper retrofit where the connector is in the back tail light. I'm definitely interested in a proper retrofit.

 

[BalsaDust]

I'm going to hold Farley to his word where he stated in the video "we're going to ship an adapter to everyone who bought a Ford EV" I have already downloaded the video just in case

 

[Nikos]

I'm going to hold Farley to his word where he stated in the video "we're going to ship an adapter to everyone who bought a Ford EV" I have already downloaded the video just in case

Things sometimes/occasionally fall thru the cracks. If that is the case, when timeframe wise.
First part of 2024 can be 90-100 days long.
I like your thinking.

 

[azerik]

Add this to the poll: HFN. That’s my answer.

You don't even have a MME anymore do you?

 

[ChuckA]

I'm looking forward to a subscription service that lets me rent an adaptor.

A dollar a month like the EZ-Pass toll transponder. It will be delivered to all users by OTA.

 

[Bikespace]

A dollar a month like the EZ-Pass toll transponder. It will be delivered to all users by OTA.

Well, not the Job 1 Mach-Es, if it's OTA...

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

You don't even have a MME anymore do you?

We’re still rockin my wife’s ‘21 Job 2 4X with 29K on the odo and a fresh HBVBJ. And probably more Dragy runs than any MME extant.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

I've always been confused why this is still the format war people cite when blu ray vs hddvd was much more recent.

Granted I was born in the 90s

Yep, Betamax vs. VHS is the gold standard format war because it was a big deal back in the ‘80s. Betamax was actually superior but that’s another story. By the time Blu Ray vs. HDDVD happened people were like, meh, another format war, who cares. Because they’d seen VHS win, CD beat DAT which still beat DCC (remember that?). Anyway…

 

[hyrulianruffio]

A dollar a month like the EZ-Pass toll transponder. It will be delivered to all users by OTA.

You have to pay a subscription for EZ Pass? We don't pay that for EZ Tag or Toll Tag in Texas.

 

[Jimrpa]

Part of the problem with NACS is that it's not yet been adopted by an independent standards body, so Ford is at their mercy and has ~no input into any changes that might need to be made. NACS is an available format, but it's not an "open" standard. For that to be the case, the format would have to be modifiable independent of the manufacturer. Or at least the manufacturer needs to be not the only one on a committee who gets to decide any adjustments/changes to it in the future. We'll see if that ever happens. If it does, my objection to it will be lessened, though not entirely mitigated.

The one time I used that J1772/NACS adapter it was a PITA to disconnect the adapter from the NACS plug. It was way too tight of a fit and any little bit of dirt/scratching on the plug made it difficult to use. The adapter was clean, but the NACS plug had been dropped on the ground, scratched up, etc., and it was just a little too worn to fit nicely. I almost had to tap the adapter with a blunt object to get it off.

I understand your point. Just a couple of thoughts:

• If Elon crawled out of his Twitter lair and unilaterally changed NACS, then called (twitted?) bill ford and gloated “hahaha!!! You foolishly fell for my master plan! Now your cars can’t charge!”, ford owners with NACS cars would just have to use their NACS to CCS adaptors
• Musk would be cutting off a revenue stream. What’s the upside for him? He loses revenue and worsens the public image of his products and himself

Even given those points, I agree that it would be good if musk made NACS an open standard, instead of just “royalty free IP”.

 

[Jimrpa]

You have to pay a subscription for EZ Pass? We don't pay that for EZ Tag or Toll Tag in Texas.

Not in PA. You just pay the tolls. You do have to have an account with EZ Pass and have a balance on the account to cover tolls. You can also link a credit card to the account for auto replenishment. We also have toll-by-plate, but I think it’s more expensive.

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