FordPass - somebody should get fired

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I give up posting after this... I would sound like a broken record if I continue. So much bad information based on pure assumptions.

Facts - FP has a frunk button that works for some of us. FP isn't just plug and play like it should be. If you don't change permissions you'll get battery drain, bad locations, crappy PaaK and the list goes on. 1.7.1 is just a sync update, it doesn't do anything else, update other modules or enable other features.

Unfortunately technology has it's limits with the non technically inclined. Just like I'm terrible performing brain surgery...

If you struggle with tech, carry a FOB.

If you really want help search for PaaK and myself as the author or DM me. I'm always here to help.

Should FordPass be better ... Yes yes yes yes, no argument. Remember FP is only 1/2 of the equation. If your modules are outdated then the issue is the car and Ford's poor OTAs.
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As ridiculous as it sounds, I didn't order this car to be able to start it with my phone. Guess I'm getting old, but I have no problem having the physical key in my pocket – don't even have to take it out to be able to open, start and drive the car.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping software issues will be upgraded and fixed, but these are just 'nice to have' stuff – not essentials.
I wish that Ford gave us the same key as the EU-spec cars. I would have a frunk button at that point and wouldn’t care about FordPass. As it is in the US (and I suspect Canada and Other parts of North America), we have no way to open the frunk without opening the door first. ?‍♂?
 

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I wish that Ford gave us the same key as the EU-spec cars. I would have a frunk button at that point and wouldn’t care about FordPass. As it is in the US (and I suspect Canada and Other parts of North America), we have no way to open the frunk without opening the door first. ?‍♂?
Probably so a child won't pop out while driving or sumptin' :p
 
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I get a lot of, "Sorry, FordPass isn't responding. Try again later."

It's frustrating af and I don't even use PaaK.
I would recommend deleting the PaaK from the car. `General` -> `Reset` -> `Paak Reset`. NOT master reset.

I did this and was able to add an Android PaaK.
 
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Yes, us GT and GT-PE owners are supposed to have a functioning frunk button. I don’t even have a second row of buttons. ?‍♂?

EDIT: Oh yeah, FP also thinks that I am in Detroit and I am getting spurious false messages that my doors are being opened. I am staring out the window at my car. Nobody has been near it. ??
I'm betting it's those sneaky dogs. You sure they aren't trying to take it for a joy ride? LOL
 


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Hey Eric, do you at least have window, lift gate, and frunk buttons? They’re MIA in my FP app. ?‍♂?
I do not have any of those functions either. My Fordpass app says I need to set up pakk even though my phone is listed in the paak key settings on the app and is listed in the car. I can open and drive the car about 75% of the time even though the app says I need to set up phone paak. It's F'ing ridiculous
 
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I do not have any of those functions either. My Fordpass app says I need to set up pakk even though my phone is listed in the paak key settings on the app and is listed in the car. I can open and drive the car about 75% of the time even though the app says I need to set up phone paak. It's F'ing ridiculous
Try deleting the PaaK from the car and doing it again. This allowed me to set up an Android after the iPhone failed. So, now I know it's not the modem in the car.

`General` -> `Reset` -> `Paak Reset`. NOT master reset.
 

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Try deleting the PaaK from the car and doing it again. This allowed me to set up an Android after the iPhone failed. So, now I know it's not the modem in the car.

`General` -> `Reset` -> `Paak Reset`. NOT master reset.
I have tried every which way I could see to try from this forum, from the manual, and from just trying different crap. I've deleted and reinstalled everything possible both on my phone and in the car. Once I get my PPF done I am going to see if the dealer can fix it. It took a while to get that appointment and I don't want to miss it because the car got trapped at the dealer. It's really a shame how this stuff sours your experience with the car because it's a blast to drive.
 

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FWIW, PaaK and FordPass have worked pretty well for me(I'm on Android) since I picked up the car on Monday. I was having significant battery drain on my phone, but I found references to this is another thread and once I modified the app permissions, I'm no longer seeing the phone battery drain.
do you mind replying with the forums that solved the battery drain on Android? I disabled PAAK b/c of that but it was working great for me.
 

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As ridiculous as it sounds, I didn't order this car to be able to start it with my phone. Guess I'm getting old, but I have no problem having the physical key in my pocket – don't even have to take it out to be able to open, start and drive the car.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping software issues will be upgraded and fixed, but these are just 'nice to have' stuff – not essentials.
Me too!!! FOB in pocket works for me and FOB in purse works for my Wife!! :)
 

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Thank you! I have messaged him. I hope that Ford would reach out to some of the folks here with issues. Most people would be happy to help test and improve the product. We all want a better experience.
I was just talking to my wife about the recent OTA she got to her MyBMW app that connects her 330e to Android auto..... truly impressive release notes detailed what was changed and updated.

FP might want to take a page from their book on that...
 

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I deleted my PaaK through the Settings->General etc steps and created a new key. No change in FordPass app missing the second row of buttons. I then deleted the PaaK and then my profile and set up everything as new. No joy. I am also tried to send my profile to the car from FordPass and I got this error:
Ford Mustang Mach-E FordPass - somebody should get fired 37DCA9A5-E5FC-47A5-BEA1-F5D536754CA1


It seems as if there is more than one problem here. The FP app seems to be able to communicate with the car but the car won’t do some things that the app might be looking for. ?‍♂?

EDIT: I noticed no matter how I try to open a door, the car complains of an unauthorized opening. I can use the fob to unlock the car or open the lift gate and it will complain. I can use the FP app to unlock the car and it will complain. I can open the frunk from the Sync screen (with the car running) and it will complain. I can just let the car sit and it will complain even though nobody has been trying to open anything. My car is dumb! ??
 
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I'm struggling with FordPass. Same as everybody else - PaaK setup on iOS is a goat rodeo. It thinks I'm in Detroit when trying to set departure times. The thing crashes like the Hindenburg, and it times out so often that I think this is the secret name for it - Timeout! And, I have stable gig internet.

Does anybody know a feedback channel that we can use? This POS is Charlie Sheen levels of unstable.
I have both Ford MME and Tesla.. Tesla has forgot more about their software than Ford knows.. No comparison, not even close.. Ford needs to hire a Tesla IT Tech..
 

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I deleted my PaaK through the Settings->General etc steps and created a new key. No change in FordPass app missing the second row of buttons. I then deleted the PaaK and then my profile and set up everything as new. No joy. I am also tried to send my profile to the car from FordPass and I got this error:
Ford Mustang Mach-E FordPass - somebody should get fired 37DCA9A5-E5FC-47A5-BEA1-F5D536754CA1


It seems as if there is more than one problem here. The FP app seems to be able to communicate with the car but the car won’t do some things that the app might be looking for. ?‍♂?

EDIT: I noticed no matter how I try to open a door, the car complains of an unauthorized opening. I can use the fob to unlock the car or open the lift gate and it will complain. I can use the FP app to unlock the car and it will complain. I can open the frunk from the Sync screen (with the car running) and it will complain. I can just let the car sit and it will complain even though nobody has been trying to open anything. My car is dumb! ??
Or your car knows that dogs shouldn't be driving
 
 




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