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  1. sabat

    Shopping for a Mach E is not easy- Yet.

    This sort of effing around with dealers is frustrating for most folks. I think most people would rather know the one price that everyone pats and be done with it. The possibility that you’ll get screwed makes the process suck.
  2. sabat

    MORE FordPass problems!

    Hope this is all short-term teething pains. Hope the GT kicks ass for the sale of F stock.
  3. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    For the deal I got, I think I will be fine. Worst case I lose the 1500 in tax. Best case, I love the car :) Once they arrive, I'd like to meet up with an Atlanta-area GT owner and go for a ride, maybe swap for a few miles.
  4. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    Reviving this thread because I'm about to sign the contract on a 2018 Model 3 Performance from Vroom. It only has 14K miles and looks to be in great condition. Just under $40K, still under warranty for 18 months. It was one of the last Performance 3s to be sold without the $5K Performance...
  5. sabat

    [4th Update...Kinda] Wind noise from panoramic roof

    We might see some folks happy with 75 dB, and others unhappy with 65 dB. That could be useful.
  6. sabat

    [4th Update...Kinda] Wind noise from panoramic roof

    Comparable data might be useful here. There are some free apps for the iPhone that will give you ambient sound intensity (dB meter is one). Someone with a loud MME could get the app and track noise levels driving down a quiet street at 50mph, phone in hand held at ear level, and compare to...
  7. sabat

    CYBER ORANGE METALLIC Mach-E Club

    I was planning on Space White, but I’m leaning toward Cyber Orange now. Partly because of the stitching of the GT interior, has anyone considered that on this thread?
  8. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    I kinda doubt that Ford will allow North American drivers to tow much if anything with the MME. I had a stickshift Jetta TDI, which was rated for around 3500lbs in Europe, but only 1000 in the USA. Same car, just different standards of abuse apparently.
  9. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    Thanks for the Tesla stories folks. I will wait until GT ordering begins to see how the initial quality issues are worked out with the MME. One thing is for sure - I like the idea of the Options 3-year lease, so if things turn out worse than I expect, I can hand it back.
  10. sabat

    X-plan changes announced for Mustang Club of America (MCA) members

    “Going forward” implies all current MCA members are good at 60 days.
  11. sabat

    [4th Update...Kinda] Wind noise from panoramic roof

    I wonder if the wind noise is typical of all cars, but BEV owners hear it because there is no ICE noise? For sure Ford and Tesla have spent many hours in the wind tunnel, and worked hard to smooth every edge.
  12. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    Yep, I love the idea that we can buy a vehicle capable of such brutal acceleration - that can actually be used on the street. Without the AWD and extra weight, all that torque would just get converted into tire smoke. The fact that the thrust runs out quickly is perfect - I don't want to go...
  13. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    I'm leaning toward the base GT with the glass roof. We still have no idea how much the glass roof will cost - I just tried to add it to a Select on the Ford site, and apparently it isn't an option.
  14. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    These are good points. If Ford made a BEV sedan I'd choose it, I really don't need the SUV. It will be interesting to see how quickly the MME wrinkles get ironed out. Hopefully in the next month, before GT ordering starts.
  15. sabat

    Mach-E GT vs. Model 3 Performance

    I have a reservation for a GT, which will be my first BEV. As I wait patiently, and calculate the costs, I'm seeing lightly-used examples of the 2020 Model 3 Performance on Carvana for around ~40K. They don't last long. Am I wrong in thinking this is a fair comparison? Please tell me what...
  16. sabat

    GT details to date

    I sorta doubt we will be able to test-ride a GT and GTPE before ordering. Trying out an ICE GT with Magneride would be useful, but with the big weight difference of the MME, I don't know that it will be all that meaningful. I don't have any plans to take the GT to a track, and I doubt many...
  17. sabat

    GT details to date

    Ford site lists 245s for the GT.
  18. sabat

    Some early Mach-E GT owners may get 2022 model according to new Ford email

    I'm glad to see some action on the GT, April is not far off. I got the email with the 2022 detail, at 11:07 EST.
  19. sabat

    GT details to date

    It is confusing, maybe there are option packages that aren't yet defined. Not a great look from Ford on that page. If we can't have more details, then what we do have should be correct. I'm happy with the base features, but the glass roof would be fun. Mostly I want the AWD torque in a BEV...
  20. sabat

    GT details to date

    Thanks. On your link the memory seat is listed as an option on the GT?


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