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Autonomy terms are murky. It indicates it’s not refundable. BOOK by Cadillac (which I believe is gone) Care by Volvo etc seem to keep the deposit and let you roll into new cars after a specific term. I could be all wrong on this. Anyone confirm?

Eh. Whaddaya gonna do other than exercise your right as a consumer and walk away - as I did They keep that ADM high, nobody buys, and their stock increases - we’ll get back to normal. Until they do it again of course. The sales person being extra obnoxious was a comical bonus.

Villa Ford of Orange. I went to check out an iced blue GTPE fully loaded. $15k ADM. And when I said no thanks and walked away, the dealer got obnoxious/aggressive.

Didn’t get to look as a torrential rain started about a minute after I took that photo, but I believe that’s correct - no frunk.

No idea. These vehicles were tore up externally - you could tell they were a high mile test group. They were a tight lipped group. Wouldn’t give up much other than they like them but they’re early beta cars with a bunch of quirks (unspecified).

Ran into 5 test Lyriq (2 off cam) at an EA charger. Wheelbase is longer than expected

Also, you’ll get HOV lane access and might save some time on that commute. Time has value.

Saw an ionic 5 today on the road. Still in dealer wrap - so maybe a test drive. Looked interesting but also looked (from afar) sma double L - small.

It’s the middle trim. With the black optik package it looks better than those with the chrome grille. It’s not the prestige with the HUD, massage seats, etc. I think they’ve added an s line for 2022. Other than some recent nagging regret when I saw a MME GTPE in the wild that was identical...

I’m in the same boat. Picked up etron prem plus when audi was flush with them back in March for less than the Santa Fe with ADM (why I tabled my MME reservation). Crazy. I get they can charge what the market will bear, but I really hope the public remembers which dealers are pulling this...

Have to admit - the 5 seconds I was in it before he told me about the ADM and I got quite rude about it ?, it looked solid - for the MSRP (it was a limited). Size and interior seemed nice. definitely not worth it for the markup. Plus battery size wise, it doesn’t get the full $7500 credit...

Not sure where you are in cali. SCE in SoCal has a “marketplace” for EVSE, but not really any good deals. They do have TOU-D-PRIME time of day charging rates - proof of EV ownership required. South coast AQMD has a rebate...

Maybe she found a no ADM dealer.

They are. Stopped in to Norm Reeves Hyundai today to eyeball a Santa Fe PHEV - ADM is almost $9k on top of ~$47k MSRP. Can only imagine the ADM on an ioniq 5 when they start landing.

In Los Angeles that 12miles is a 1.5hr commute. ?

My etron has it on both. But only used the passenger side once - at a Volta station. IMO, especially with the mechanical port door, it’s just more crap to break having it on both sides.

ADM. ?

Find a MME on Turo. Drive it overnight.

They need more time for the dealer staff to take it for a drive.

I can’t even right now…