2022 Mach-E ordering (hopefully) starts on September 30th. Who's ordering?

[Lord Polymath]

Orders for 2022 open on September 27, but what time of day?

That is an excellent question - I've been searching for the answer to no avail. Please let me know if you find out! We're 10 days out and no new info on the 2022 model...

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[agoldman]

I would assume that any order placed at 9/27 will be behind current orders that don't make the '21 production deadline. Depending on chips supply, this could easily delay these new orders well into Spring.

 

[Cobra427]

I would assume that any order placed at 9/27 will be behind current orders that don't make the '21 production deadline. Depending on chips supply, this could easily delay these new orders well into Spring.

Well, unless things have radically changed since I retired from auto manufacturing, there will ne a 'build out' period to finish the 2021 model year. Then a 'changeover' period to make any equipment and facility changes to accommodate the new model changes. The fewer changes, the shorter this period. For example, Honda used to do a full model change in a week of shutdown, Then, on a certain date, the new model starts up. For the 2022 MME, this date is November 29. After that, only 2022s will be made. There is no 'rollover' of 2021s into 2022s.

At least that is the way it used to be...

 

[agoldman]

Well, unless things have radically changed since I retired from auto manufacturing, there will ne a 'build out' period to finish the 2021 model year. Then a 'changeover' period to make any equipment and facility changes to accommodate the new model changes. The fewer changes, the shorter this period. For example, Honda used to do a full model change in a week of shutdown, Then, on a certain date, the new model starts up. For the 2022 MME, this date is November 29. After that, only 2022s will be made. There is no 'rollover' of 2021s into 2022s.

At least that is the way it used to be...

Yes, I meant that the pending chip hold and backlog orders after a certain date, would likley become the first '22 orders to build in order to clear the deck. Meaning might be a longer wait for new '22 orders.

 

[TDog]

Well, unless things have radically changed since I retired from auto manufacturing, there will ne a 'build out' period to finish the 2021 model year. Then a 'changeover' period to make any equipment and facility changes to accommodate the new model changes. The fewer changes, the shorter this period. For example, Honda used to do a full model change in a week of shutdown, Then, on a certain date, the new model starts up. For the 2022 MME, this date is November 29. After that, only 2022s will be made. There is no 'rollover' of 2021s into 2022s.

At least that is the way it used to be...

I would think the comments are referring to their order. If your 21 model order does not get built by the changeover, then it rolls over to a 22 model order. If they make you lose your spot in line and have to redo everything, Ford would have an angry mob on their hands.

 

[JBA]

Seen it, don’t like it. The old Oxford White is what I consider white. Star white is just not white to me. It looks gray.

I’d be fine if Ford did away with the shades of gray and gave us some real color offerings. I picked a blue that I dislike for my car, partially because it isn’t just another shade of gray.

You are quite right on the star white "not being white". I have star white and it's a pearl white. You can compare it to VW oryx white (I had that one before the MME) and I wished it was a little less pearlish than that but it's even more pearlish. My employer obligates a white color so I had no choice and thought about wrapping it to a more clean white but it's just to expensive for the purpose of just being more white.

Tbh I would really hate it if a 2022 or 2023 MY would get a more white color.

On topic, I doubt if there would be any significant changes from MY 2021 to MY2022, it's not like that will be any facelift of big changes each year.

 

[TTT]

Ironically it said nothing until today. Says estimated production 11/8/2021. So I assume that means it is a 2021 correct? This is my first new car in years no idea when the "new year" starts...I assume it starts 1/1/2022

If you have a vin you can likely figure out the model year from that.

 

[Tomcat]

To update your order you had to do it through the dealership, correct?
Was it an update or cancellation and placement of a new order?
And also where online do you see your online details? On Ford.com? Did you put the order first doing the reservation on Ford.com or just directly through the dealer?

I have the same questions. I ordered on August 4th at the dealer. They told me to just come in and the sales manager would do it and not to worry about the online with deposit. They plugged it in, showed it to me and printed it out. It has a priority code 10. I also created an account on Ford.com but it says I don't have a reservation or an order. Asks me for a VIN. So I called the Ford Relations Center and spoke with someone. They say they can see my Order ID and Dealer info but it has no other information. Very confusing! Any insight from anyone?

 

[mwsno]

GT order holders getting a 21 in the MY2022 era.

 

[jennq]

Bronco and Mustang leaks about new colors but none for Mach-E as far as I know. Wish the MME colors were as diverse as the ICE Mustang.

oh yes, Atlas Blue is my preference over Grabber if they were to offer it

 

[SirLamerok]

Oil slick purple is my first choice. I am waiting on my cyber orange MME but would switch to 2022 if they get Purple.

 

[RedStormREHS]

GT order holders getting a 21 in the MY2022 era.

Doesn't Tesla call their model vehicles 2021 until 12/31/2021?

 

[mwsno]

Doesn't Tesla call their model vehicles 2021 until 12/31/2021?

Sorry, meant Model Year not Model Y. No clue what Tesla does

 

[Raymondjram]

If we really do have federal law telling us exactly how we need to number a car's model year, that would be a clear harbinger of the end time...

If there were no law, how would you classify my Fusion which was assembled September 13th, 2013 and bought September 21st, 2015 unused and brand new?

According to that law it is a 2014 model year.

 

[Tomcat]

I found this on the Bronco Nation Forum. First time I have read exactly how the order process works. It's very long, but worth the read.

Ford Dealers can submit vehicle orders via either the traditional CONCEPS ordering system or the newer WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system. Fleet orders and/or specification changes must be made via CONCEPS. The WBDO system only accepts stock (Dealer Stock, Demonstrator) orders and all variations of retail orders (Retail, A/X/D Plan, Etc.). Both ordering systems generate error notices and will not display pricing information until any errors are corrected.

The CONCEPS ordering system requires the Dealer to manually enter all the order codes… Year, Body Code, Priority Code, Option Codes, etc. The newer WBDO system uses plain language descriptions, etc. and only displays options available for that vehicle’s Model Year, Body Code & Order Code. Retail orders using the WBDO system default to Priority Code “19”.

Dealers assign priority codes to each order based on the Order Type. Stock orders are assigned priority codes 20-80, retail orders are assigned priority codes 10-19. Fleet orders are assigned special alpha numeric codes that represent a requested production week. The priority codes determine the order for which vehicle orders are to be selected and/or considered for scheduling. This overview doesn’t consider commodity issues (model, powertrain or option scheduling restrictions) that may be in place for a scheduling week. Commodity issues and/or restrictions can apply at either or both the regional and national levels.

The highest priority that a Dealer can use for a retail order is 10. An order with a “10” priority code will schedule ahead of an order with an “11” priority code, etc. This allows Dealers to prioritize the order in which vehicles are scheduled, especially when a Dealer may have multiple retail orders in the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank). With the WBDO ordering system, retail orders default to priority code “19” so it’s important that a Dealer change the priority code to a lower number if they want the order to be considered for scheduling earlier compared to other orders.

Ford provides Dealers with a schedule for vehicle allocation each week on Monday mornings which shows how many vehicles of each model line that the Dealer has allocation for scheduling that week. That same weekly allocation report also includes information on any regional commodity issues or restrictions. On Monday afternoons, the Scheduling Toolbox Report is released which provides more detailed information on commodity issues and scheduling availability on a national basis. On Tuesday mornings, the AM Scheduling Preview Report is available to show Dealers which vehicle orders have been selected or previewed, on an initial basis, to be selected for scheduling that week. The same report is updated and available on Wednesday morning to show any changes based on commodity issues that may have changed.

On Wednesday afternoon, the Regional Scheduler issues a notice informing Dealers of the vehicle specifications available for scheduling for orders not already showing on the AM Preview Report. This provides Dealers with information on what vehicle specifications are available for scheduling should they have orders showing on the AM Preview Report that are not what the Dealer wants.

Ford generates what are called “SIMS Orders” each week which are Ford’s suggested orders based on commodity information available at the time. If a Dealer has vehicle allocation for scheduling that week and has no Dealer orders in the USOB or orders that don’t meet the commodity restrictions in place for that week, the scheduling system will default to trying to schedule SIMS (Smart Inventory Management System) orders if they meet any commodity restrictions in place. The SIMS orders are available to Dealers online Monday mornings and in print form on Tuesday mornings. Dealers can enter their own vehicle orders or change the Ford generated SIMS orders.

Ford Dealers earn vehicle scheduling allocation each month based on reported vehicle sales, current inventory, projected sales, etc. Each month, Dealers usually meet with their Ford Zone Manager to review the allocation offered for scheduling the following month. A Dealer can accept the suggested allocation per vehicle line or change their commitment. Should a Dealer want more allocation than offered for a vehicle line, they can submit a request for supplemental allocation which will be considered based on total allocation available and commitments from other Dealers in their Zone. There are times when Dealers accept less allocation than offered for a vehicle line which makes that allocation available to other Dealers that may be looking for additional inventory. At other times, a Dealer may want more allocation for a vehicle line than Ford has offered. A supplemental allocation request is how Dealers can get allocation for extra inventory.

A Dealer needs allocation each week for scheduling for each vehicle line. Even without allocation for a vehicle line, Ford is pretty good at trying to schedule retail orders even when a Dealer doesn’t have allocation that week. When a Dealer knows that they don’t have scheduling allocation, it’s always a good idea for them to provide the retail order information (Body Code & Order Number) to their Ford Zone Manager and the Regional Scheduler. The Regional Scheduler can reprioritize the retail order to priority code “01” which basically forces the Ford scheduling system to schedule the unit ASAP unless extreme commodity restrictions prevent the scheduling. When a Dealer doesn’t have allocation, the Ford Zone Manager may try to get the allocation from another Dealer that is willing to give up their allocation.

Ford scheduling is done on Thursday’s but at times scheduling may be carried over to Friday’s due to scheduling, commodity or other issues. Vehicle scheduling confirmations are available on Friday mornings for allocation scheduled on Thursday.

With only a few exceptions (Focus RS, EcoSport, Transit Connect) VIN numbers are generated at the time that an order is “Submitted to Plant” for scheduling. The initial scheduling information will show an order scheduled for a production week. Afterwards, the information will be updated to show production for a particular date. Along the process, the vehicle order status information will be updated along with the ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) at the dealership.

Years ago, the ordering process was much easier, with few or limited commodity issues to deal with. Ford’s vehicle scheduling was mostly driven by scheduling and building vehicles based on Dealer orders to meet Market demands. For a number of years now, the ordering process has become more complex and time consuming based on the constantly changing commodity issues and restrictions. It is now not uncommon for allocation to roll over to the following week because manufacturing can’t accurately forecast how many vehicles can be scheduled for production. In many cases, it seems that either because of vendor supply issues or other factors that Ford skews vehicle scheduling to higher content models in order to maximize corporate profits rather than scheduling vehicle production to meet Dealers orders or Market demand.

The overall vehicle order process, scheduling and status updates is listed below for reference.
· Dealer places order into the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank)
· When Dealer has vehicle allocation for scheduling, orders are scheduled based on Order Type, Priority Code and commodity restrictions.
o Scheduled vehicle orders display as “Submitted to Plant” on the Dealer’s daily schedule status report.
o Vehicle orders are assigned a VIN number when scheduled except for certain vehicle lines (EcoSport, Focus RS, Transit Connect)
o The initial vehicle scheduling notice will include information for the scheduled week of production. The initial ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) is usually provided within a few days of the scheduling notice.
o Dealers can change vehicle specifications for a scheduled vehicle up until the vehicle is “locked in” for production or about two weeks prior to the scheduled build date. Specifications for certain vehicle lines (EcoSport, Focus RS, etc.) cannot be changed once scheduled.
§ Dealers are limited to making 6 changes to scheduled orders.
§ Dealers cannot change Order Type, Body Code, Order Code (Package/Trim Level)
· Vehicle order is next updated with a scheduled production date.
· Vehicle goes into production and shows as “Sent to Plant” on the Dealer’s daily status report.
o Vehicle invoices and window stickers are generated and available to Dealers at about this time.
· Dealer’s daily status report shows updates on production status.
· Vehicle status updated to “Produced”
· Vehicle status updated to “Released” meaning that the vehicle has been released for shipment.
· Vehicle is loaded on rail car. Dealer is provided with carrier information (Canadian National, Norfolk Sothern, etc.) along with the actual rail car number.
· Vehicle status is updated to show arrival at the final rail destination (Ramp 41/Newark, NJ)
· Vehicle is received by the car carrier (Fleet Car, Diversified Automotive, etc.) for delivery to the dealership.
· Vehicle is delivered to the dealership.

Dealers have access to the “Vehicle Visibility” application which provides status updates on a 24/7 basis for any vehicle order.

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