240 Volt Charger in old Oven Circuit Breaker

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Good Day Everyone,

I recently bought a new kitchen range and went from electric to gas. This then left an open 240 volt outlet not being used in my circuit breaker box. Would an electrician be able to disconnect that and then run new wires to the garage with a new receptacle created for it to connect to the new Ford Connected Charging station?

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Yeah...shouldnā€™t be a problem since you have space in the breaker panel for the new one. only issue would be if the main couldnā€™t handle the house loads plus charger, but since you used to have an electric oven you should have capacity.
 

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It depends on what size breakers you have too. The Ford Connected Charge station is 48 amps so it needs a 60 amp breaker and because it's hardwired it does not require a receptacle.
 
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Yeah...shouldnā€™t be a problem since you have space in the breaker panel for the new one. only issue would be if the main couldnā€™t handle the house loads plus charger, but since you used to have an electric oven you should have capacity.
Thank you!! That's what I was thinking but wanted to ask and get a feel for what kind of $$damage$$ I was looking at.
 

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Thank you!! That's what I was thinking but wanted to ask and get a feel for what kind of $$damage$$ I was looking at.
I think the $ will depend largely on the length of wire needed, and how you want it routed. If it can be routed in conduit attached to the wall or ceiling, itā€˜s easier to run than in some (most?) walls.
 


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You can shop around and size your EVSE to whatever the breaker sizes are. You'll still get Level-2 charging speed(s) just not the fastest that the Ford Connected station can do. Just remember to get an EVSE that runs at 80% of your breaker sizes.

There are several EVSE's out there that are adjustable.
 

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The important question was asked above: what is the rating of the breakers for that oven?
 

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I think the $ will depend largely on the length of wire needed, and how you want it routed. If it can be routed in conduit attached to the wall or ceiling, itā€˜s easier to run than in some (most?) walls.
Maybe it will be cheaper to install the EVSE in the kitchen using the oven circuit and open a wall to park the Mach-E inside?

Seriously, it depends on what your local electrician will charge, either per hour or for a full job quatation. In my case, my kitche wall is just six inches of concrete brick away from my carport. But I already have a JuiceBox EVSE (built from a kit) wired in my carport on a 40 A circuit, and set for 30 A (7.2 kW). I can uprate the wiring for up to 16kW. And I did all the contruction and wiring myself for less than $300.
 
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Maybe it will be cheaper to install the EVSE in the kitchen using the oven circuit and open a wall to park the Mach-E inside?

Seriously, it depends on what your local electrician will charge, either per hour or for a full job quatation. In my case, my kitche wall is just six inches of concrete brick away from my carport. But I already have a JuiceBox EVSE (built from a kit) wired in my carport on a 40 A circuit, and set for 30 A (7.2 kW). I can uprate the wiring for up to 16kW. And I did all the contruction and wiring myself for less than $300.
The bad part is, the wiring will cost me as the electrical panel is on the far opposite side of the house to the garage. When we ran the gas line, they were able to not have to cut any holes into the ceiling, as there was enough space access and run the line from end to end of the house. The same could be done for the new electrical line and then pop it right into the garage from the basement. The electric dryer line is also right below the garage in the basement. It should be a pretty easy run.
 
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The bad part is, the wiring will cost me as the electrical panel is on the far opposite side of the house to the garage. When we ran the gas line, they were able to not have to cut any holes into the ceiling, as there was enough space access and run the line from end to end of the house. The same could be done for the new electrical line and then pop it right into the garage from the basement. The electric dryer line is also right below the garage in the basement. It should be a pretty easy run.
The current electric panel is for 125. Hopefully, this should be enough to cover.
 

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The current electric panel is for 125. Hopefully, this should be enough to cover.
It should but may limit you to your existing oven circuit. What's the Amperage on the oven breakers?
 

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The bad part is, the wiring will cost me as the electrical panel is on the far opposite side of the house to the garage. When we ran the gas line, they were able to not have to cut any holes into the ceiling, as there was enough space access and run the line from end to end of the house. The same could be done for the new electrical line and then pop it right into the garage from the basement. The electric dryer line is also right below the garage in the basement. It should be a pretty easy run.
When I got my 240V line + EVSE installed they had to add a meter, panel, and run wires from one side of the house (through the basement) to the other side. Total cost for all of it was $2500 (of which $2400 of it was paid by our electricity provider).
 
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It should but may limit you to your existing oven circuit. What's the Amperage on the oven breakers?
I honestly do not know. I know it takes up two breaker spots in the panel. I'll take a picture later.
 
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It should but may limit you to your existing oven circuit. What's the Amperage on the oven breakers?
And a really big thank you to you personally for all of the updates from Mexico and your knowledge!! I've been following your information for quite some time :)
 

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I honestly do not know. I know it takes up two breaker spots in the panel. I'll take a picture later.
They can just replace that breaker with a larger capacity one and run new wires to the new plug (not reuse the oven wires).
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