JSeis
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26,068 commute miles: 1 Year
Short take-Commuting in any thing other than a BEV is fuelish. Zero operational issues w/fob.. PAAK getting better. A warranty windshield reseal and followed by rock-broken windshield replacement were uneventful. OTA is seamless, and the recent recall update was no issue when I took the Mach E in for 20K service.
Dark side-PAAK isnāt foolproof. Iāve reinstalled it 3x in a year. Fob is very reliable. If PAAK is the future and well.. the future.. is likeā¦ āitās complicatedā. Iām reserving judgement till major update in āfallā. I do travel with the fob in a Faraday bag.
My round trip 90 mile a day commute is on winding 2 lane blacktop . Average 3.5 Mi/KWh in a year and likely related to an average speed of 49 mph with 25, 30, 35, 50, and 55 mph zones. I drive slower in the dark winter months and slightly faster in the sunny summer. Typically average 93%-98% energy to driving late spring through early fall. The rest of the time Iām at 87-90% driving due to cold/wet. Odd fact; the recent update said my Mi/KWh averaged 4.1 mi/KWh across all three trip modes (representing long term, seasonal, daily info) which is one of those goofy update consequences.
Iām also a psycho hyper miler who preconditions, wears a winter puffer jacket and knows the difference between cabin air & e-heat and fan manipulation for dealing with window defrosting v. cabin heat.. Charge at home to 85%-95% (summer v. winter). Rarely charge to 100% (unless longer trip). My typical summer 85% charge mileage estimate is 199-204 miles.
Weāre net saving ~$5,000 per year v. gas. A BEV is the only way to go for my type of commuting. Mild maritime climate w/slower speed roads in my favor. Might be different in the U.P. or Maine, or open spaces east and north and cold, etc.
The SR MME AWD is quiet, efficient, dependable (PAAK aside) comfortable. Definitely a utility vehicle that can pack 4-5 + some gear.
If you think the ride is bouncy you live in an area where your city/county/state built a shifty road base and paves over it only to render a sunken grade & frost heaved roads.
The ride is the same as the Edge Sport and better than a solid axle GT ! I know thatās unfair but Iāve had three solid axle GTās and theyād hoped sideways on bridge expansion joints, pavement patches. Etc.
Our other vehicle: A twin turbo Flex, a total sleeper cruiser. The S.O. drives it occasionally and once in a blue moon I do. Egad, the Flex shakes and jiggles in a wonderful old school vibe and power to spare attitude. But 20-23mpg is gas hog territory nowadays. Unparalleled for hauling 5 and all their luggage on a road trip.
Suffice to say, I really like our MME AWD SR Select. Serenely quiet. Efficient. Looks good. Fits our needs better than anticipated. We accidentally came across it while at the dealer wondering what to do with an Edge Sport that lunched itās transmission. The Mach E had been on the lot 2 weeks so we took it for a spin.
What I really like-
What I stopped using:
On the bubble-
Minor annoyances
-Narrow footwell/center console protruding into my right foot space.
-inconsistent lighting on switches. Everything is switch lit but blue overheads.. whose reflection I see in the rear window at night.
-Inability to dim screens to a real low level. I do a lot of night driving and night vision is super important over everything else.
-frequently clean sensors as road grime can really block them quickly. Keep glass clean in front of camera too.
Weather below 45 degrees really impacts range but once it hits, 49-50, range really picks up and then 58+ it gets me back in 3.9+. However headwinds can set that back to 3.7.
Range anxiety? -Nope. Even the occasional 150 mi winter round trip doesnāt bother me as I can stretch the battery range by judicious heat use.
Charge at home?- Daily except weekends. If I was retired the S.O. and I would put really low mileage on it. I also use cabin precondition in winter.
Trips greater than say 120 one-way miles? Couple times a year. DCFC fine even with an average of say 75%+ working until a couple months ago when 100% were working. DCFC is adequate. The one hassle are overnight road trips where you really need 100% to make the next day jump to a town 150-180 miles away and.. only 100% gives you the edge. Some hotels are putting in L2ās and thatās good. Our farthest trip was to Great Falls MT from the coast. No issues charging at EA. Trips to the I5 corridor.. no issues charging at EA.
Handling-Sweet. Our EcoBoost Flex is a smoother ride w/longer wheelbase but what a difference in a much tighter feel in the MME.
Power?-Very nice, plenty for how I use it.
Lighting? The headlights are good
Trunk & Frunk. No issues. Iām fully capable of lifting the lids and the dual front latch isnāt a bother. I use the front for washer fluid, flares, flashlights, emergency beacon, etc. I pulled dividers out.
12V battery? Never a problem and likely due to mild weather and regular charging. I monitor it with a Innova 3721. Iāll probably swap it out every 3-4 years.
OTA? Updates are flawless. Never had an issue. Never. Gets updates in the garage and at work on wireless connections through wireless extenders.
Fit & Finnish? Iām pretty hard on cars with respect to the annual miles, road wear. The MME is relatively easy to wash quickly save the wheels and roof overhang on the rear window. I inspected for road chips, etc. nothing unusual. Rocks-gravels are common where I drive.
Tires?- Iām ok with their narrow profile. I roll at near 50 psi except winter at 38 psi. Curious to see if I get 50,000+ out of them. I donāt corner hard, brake hard. Not holding my breath on 50K though.
Hyper-miling. Iāve hypermiled every vehicle Iāve owned. Accel slowly, build speed downhill, bleed slightly uphill. Always easy on the go pedal & brake/regen. Most of all I drive easy in the winter slightly faster in spring/summer/fall and hence the decent MPGE. Iām averaging 3.5 mi/KWh in a year and 4.1 summer, 3.3 winter and Iām pretty happy. That 118 MPGE compares 5X better to the 20-23 mpg from Flex.
Ford Dealer? The dealerās 17 miles away and weāve had zero issues with their service including the window reseal. Our salesman John is very good.
Heat-defog/defrost. Our mild coastal weather gives us December/January/February days of freezing cold morning weather, mostly at nights-mornings. Lots of wind and rain. Biggest problem is window fogging. I can average 3.1-3.5 mi/KWh if I keep cabin heat at 65-68 at level 1 (Not Auto).
Odd things-
-Wiper rubber a bit stiff & chatters when temps drop.
-Intelligent Cruise disappeared from menu. Ok, it wasnāt THAT smart. And Iād stopped using it months earlier.
-OTA updates balanced mileage & heat & percent to route better but still takes about 3-4 miles before energy use stabilizes.
-If you start with heat on, the range calcs will be very conservative (low). Wait a few minutes as you drive down the road before turning on heat.
-Squeaks & rattles: Still havenāt noticed any.
-PAAK/FOB/etc. The S.O. and I easily committed the door & start codes to memory Fob in a Faraday bag. So thatās the backup plan. In real life Iāve never been PAAK stranded. Never. Three close calls but overall.. never. The close calls related to :
1-Locking the iPhone in the car.. accessed with my IWatch!
2-IPhone went dead. Found a student with a charger!
3-Got hasty & impatient walking up to the car and unlocked it as it auto unlocked. What followed was 5 minutes of startup confusion that unlocked the car, went into startup, tried to start when it asked for pass code, but set the alarm off when I hit start again when I didnāt enter the start passcode. I finally turned the car off with PAAK, opened the door, then it went into start up immediately when I shut the door and ran fine afterwards. I had the hidden FOB as backup. Point being.. you can hit buttons too quickly between PAAK and Start and that can confuse the software. It likes slow methodical button pushing. Iāve never had a problem when I used PAAK to unlock/and or start the car. Iāve accidentally turned the alarm on 3 times with PAAK.
PAAK features such as āJourneysā are a waste of time and w/o access to energy use data Iād have to think real hard about buying a PAAK subscription in the future. PAAK features are nice but not compelling.
Deep Sleep is a bit unpredictable and can mess with charge settings. Takes patience to wake up the MME
Conclusion-If this is the beginning of the future then whatās to come will continue to be awesome. A very good vehicle that perfectly fits our lifestyle with a modest Mustang vibe. I test drove a Lightning.. Whoa!
Short take-Commuting in any thing other than a BEV is fuelish. Zero operational issues w/fob.. PAAK getting better. A warranty windshield reseal and followed by rock-broken windshield replacement were uneventful. OTA is seamless, and the recent recall update was no issue when I took the Mach E in for 20K service.
Dark side-PAAK isnāt foolproof. Iāve reinstalled it 3x in a year. Fob is very reliable. If PAAK is the future and well.. the future.. is likeā¦ āitās complicatedā. Iām reserving judgement till major update in āfallā. I do travel with the fob in a Faraday bag.
My round trip 90 mile a day commute is on winding 2 lane blacktop . Average 3.5 Mi/KWh in a year and likely related to an average speed of 49 mph with 25, 30, 35, 50, and 55 mph zones. I drive slower in the dark winter months and slightly faster in the sunny summer. Typically average 93%-98% energy to driving late spring through early fall. The rest of the time Iām at 87-90% driving due to cold/wet. Odd fact; the recent update said my Mi/KWh averaged 4.1 mi/KWh across all three trip modes (representing long term, seasonal, daily info) which is one of those goofy update consequences.
Iām also a psycho hyper miler who preconditions, wears a winter puffer jacket and knows the difference between cabin air & e-heat and fan manipulation for dealing with window defrosting v. cabin heat.. Charge at home to 85%-95% (summer v. winter). Rarely charge to 100% (unless longer trip). My typical summer 85% charge mileage estimate is 199-204 miles.
Weāre net saving ~$5,000 per year v. gas. A BEV is the only way to go for my type of commuting. Mild maritime climate w/slower speed roads in my favor. Might be different in the U.P. or Maine, or open spaces east and north and cold, etc.
The SR MME AWD is quiet, efficient, dependable (PAAK aside) comfortable. Definitely a utility vehicle that can pack 4-5 + some gear.
If you think the ride is bouncy you live in an area where your city/county/state built a shifty road base and paves over it only to render a sunken grade & frost heaved roads.
The ride is the same as the Edge Sport and better than a solid axle GT ! I know thatās unfair but Iāve had three solid axle GTās and theyād hoped sideways on bridge expansion joints, pavement patches. Etc.
Our other vehicle: A twin turbo Flex, a total sleeper cruiser. The S.O. drives it occasionally and once in a blue moon I do. Egad, the Flex shakes and jiggles in a wonderful old school vibe and power to spare attitude. But 20-23mpg is gas hog territory nowadays. Unparalleled for hauling 5 and all their luggage on a road trip.
Suffice to say, I really like our MME AWD SR Select. Serenely quiet. Efficient. Looks good. Fits our needs better than anticipated. We accidentally came across it while at the dealer wondering what to do with an Edge Sport that lunched itās transmission. The Mach E had been on the lot 2 weeks so we took it for a spin.
What I really like-
- Efficiency-fuel savings
- Fit and finish
- Power & AWD
- 5 door, seats 5, & really hauls ass
- Refined quality feel & outstanding good looks
- Unbridled has a good vibe though I use 1 pedal with propulsion sound OFF.
- Handling is dang good.
- Throttle modulation excellent. I can walk into a tight curve and easily work the throttle against the G meters sensing cornering force.
What I stopped using:
- Intelligent Cruise-Lane Centering - our roads are too winding w/dull centerline/fog line stripes that really FU IC. Then an update-ādisappeared āIntelligent Cruiseā.
- Rain sensing wipes- Nice idea but go whacko in a heavy mist. Rains too much at light mists for relying on them.
- Unbridled V. Whisper Mode- Sometimes I just like to chill out so Whisper is normally used but on certain roads at higher speeds (freeways) I like the tighter steering feel of engaged-unbridled. I eventually stayed in unbridled w/propulsion sound off. Whisper with one-pedal off best for snow and ice.
On the bubble-
- Car play is more seamless on texting, music, audio, but itās engagement is like having an old school LP or CD skip. Very annoying. And clearly messes up with Google map on. Recent update improve it butā¦ Not holding my breath.
- Auto dimming of headlights- a bit too sensitive w/twilight morning and dusk.
- Calm Screen- Iād prefer total blackout as I really need night vision for spotting elk & deer.
Minor annoyances
-Narrow footwell/center console protruding into my right foot space.
-inconsistent lighting on switches. Everything is switch lit but blue overheads.. whose reflection I see in the rear window at night.
-Inability to dim screens to a real low level. I do a lot of night driving and night vision is super important over everything else.
-frequently clean sensors as road grime can really block them quickly. Keep glass clean in front of camera too.
Weather below 45 degrees really impacts range but once it hits, 49-50, range really picks up and then 58+ it gets me back in 3.9+. However headwinds can set that back to 3.7.
Range anxiety? -Nope. Even the occasional 150 mi winter round trip doesnāt bother me as I can stretch the battery range by judicious heat use.
Charge at home?- Daily except weekends. If I was retired the S.O. and I would put really low mileage on it. I also use cabin precondition in winter.
Trips greater than say 120 one-way miles? Couple times a year. DCFC fine even with an average of say 75%+ working until a couple months ago when 100% were working. DCFC is adequate. The one hassle are overnight road trips where you really need 100% to make the next day jump to a town 150-180 miles away and.. only 100% gives you the edge. Some hotels are putting in L2ās and thatās good. Our farthest trip was to Great Falls MT from the coast. No issues charging at EA. Trips to the I5 corridor.. no issues charging at EA.
Handling-Sweet. Our EcoBoost Flex is a smoother ride w/longer wheelbase but what a difference in a much tighter feel in the MME.
Power?-Very nice, plenty for how I use it.
Lighting? The headlights are good
Trunk & Frunk. No issues. Iām fully capable of lifting the lids and the dual front latch isnāt a bother. I use the front for washer fluid, flares, flashlights, emergency beacon, etc. I pulled dividers out.
12V battery? Never a problem and likely due to mild weather and regular charging. I monitor it with a Innova 3721. Iāll probably swap it out every 3-4 years.
OTA? Updates are flawless. Never had an issue. Never. Gets updates in the garage and at work on wireless connections through wireless extenders.
Fit & Finnish? Iām pretty hard on cars with respect to the annual miles, road wear. The MME is relatively easy to wash quickly save the wheels and roof overhang on the rear window. I inspected for road chips, etc. nothing unusual. Rocks-gravels are common where I drive.
Tires?- Iām ok with their narrow profile. I roll at near 50 psi except winter at 38 psi. Curious to see if I get 50,000+ out of them. I donāt corner hard, brake hard. Not holding my breath on 50K though.
Hyper-miling. Iāve hypermiled every vehicle Iāve owned. Accel slowly, build speed downhill, bleed slightly uphill. Always easy on the go pedal & brake/regen. Most of all I drive easy in the winter slightly faster in spring/summer/fall and hence the decent MPGE. Iām averaging 3.5 mi/KWh in a year and 4.1 summer, 3.3 winter and Iām pretty happy. That 118 MPGE compares 5X better to the 20-23 mpg from Flex.
Ford Dealer? The dealerās 17 miles away and weāve had zero issues with their service including the window reseal. Our salesman John is very good.
Heat-defog/defrost. Our mild coastal weather gives us December/January/February days of freezing cold morning weather, mostly at nights-mornings. Lots of wind and rain. Biggest problem is window fogging. I can average 3.1-3.5 mi/KWh if I keep cabin heat at 65-68 at level 1 (Not Auto).
Odd things-
-Wiper rubber a bit stiff & chatters when temps drop.
-Intelligent Cruise disappeared from menu. Ok, it wasnāt THAT smart. And Iād stopped using it months earlier.
-OTA updates balanced mileage & heat & percent to route better but still takes about 3-4 miles before energy use stabilizes.
-If you start with heat on, the range calcs will be very conservative (low). Wait a few minutes as you drive down the road before turning on heat.
-Squeaks & rattles: Still havenāt noticed any.
-PAAK/FOB/etc. The S.O. and I easily committed the door & start codes to memory Fob in a Faraday bag. So thatās the backup plan. In real life Iāve never been PAAK stranded. Never. Three close calls but overall.. never. The close calls related to :
1-Locking the iPhone in the car.. accessed with my IWatch!
2-IPhone went dead. Found a student with a charger!
3-Got hasty & impatient walking up to the car and unlocked it as it auto unlocked. What followed was 5 minutes of startup confusion that unlocked the car, went into startup, tried to start when it asked for pass code, but set the alarm off when I hit start again when I didnāt enter the start passcode. I finally turned the car off with PAAK, opened the door, then it went into start up immediately when I shut the door and ran fine afterwards. I had the hidden FOB as backup. Point being.. you can hit buttons too quickly between PAAK and Start and that can confuse the software. It likes slow methodical button pushing. Iāve never had a problem when I used PAAK to unlock/and or start the car. Iāve accidentally turned the alarm on 3 times with PAAK.
PAAK features such as āJourneysā are a waste of time and w/o access to energy use data Iād have to think real hard about buying a PAAK subscription in the future. PAAK features are nice but not compelling.
Deep Sleep is a bit unpredictable and can mess with charge settings. Takes patience to wake up the MME
Conclusion-If this is the beginning of the future then whatās to come will continue to be awesome. A very good vehicle that perfectly fits our lifestyle with a modest Mustang vibe. I test drove a Lightning.. Whoa!
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