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I'll fill in stuff as I come across it and add to this post.

Planned trip with ABRP and PlugShare. Found that ABRP had issues with a 2 week trip, and often came back with no connectivity (on hardwired computer that was connected just fine). Ended up planning every day separately, for the 6 days of driving.

Besides the HVBJB going out on day 2 as the sun was setting and we were in a bad part of Tulsa, the car performed great. I should have taken the Lightning though, then I wouldn't have had to deal with the failure.

Paid for 1,001.742 kW of electricity at a cost of $389.36 (not counting home). However, Nebraska is still per minute, and due to our slow charging due to failed HVBJB, the cost was high. Normalizing that charging (remove costs, then put them back at 1.75kW per minute) removes $28.44 and puts the total at $360.92, or 36 cents per kilowatt (let's not debate kw vs. kwh please, I don't care...) including tax.

20kW from a Tesla charger in Moab, UT. No other options there, so happy to have it pop up before the trip. We got to our hotel with 13% battery, so that charge was essential. Car did not puke when ingesting the Tesla juice...

We got some free charging due to EA issues. We also got charging at some hotels, but many locations had no hotel charging options even with my heavy duty planning. By my records, we got a total of 628.268 free, including a good hunk from the State of Utah. 36.6% of our usage was free.

I should note - when planning, if I saw a hotel with free charging for $50 more than a hotel without free charging, I passed.

Left house with full charge of 91kW, so that's $14.10. Came home with 5% battery, so basically used on the trip $13.40 and 86.5kW.

1,001.742 + 628.268 + 86.5 = 1,716.51kW

4,708 miles / 1,716.51 = 2.74 miles per kilowatt hour. Given that the trip odometer shows 2.8, that jibes.

Cost per mile was $374.32 / 4708 = 7.95 cents.

Had I taken our 2013 F-150, getting say 19.5mpg, that's the equivalent of $1.55 gas.

All our trips have been North to South and back till now, this was the first East to West and back again trip. We hit strong headwinds on at least 2 legs, and discovered that the loss can be substantial. Made one stop with 6 miles of range left due to winds that slowed trucks to 55mph.

Overall, the EA network North to South is much better than that in states like Illinois, Oklahoma and New Mexico. Unfortunately, due to our blown HVBJB charging us at a whopping 48kW max (and mostly 41-42), from day 3 on there was nothing to track.

Met many different people at the charging stops, some informed, some not, some just not bright. Lots of UBER drivers charging to 100% at one stop, and many Chevy Bolt drivers.

BlueCruise performed well, of course I have 1.0 due to 1.3 not yet rolling out...

When I get free charging at an off-network charger, I try to remember to do a screen save from the Ford app before unplugging, but not always successful at remembering.

Day 1 - driving Michigan to St. Louis
Day 2 - Gateway Arch National Park, St. Louis, MO, then driving to Stroud, OK
Day 3 - driving to Santa Rosa, NM
Day 4 - woke up very early, drove to Albuquerque, NM for launch of Balloon Festival, then drove to Gallup, NM
Day 5 - Petrified Forest National Park and Painted Desert, visited a corner in Winslow, AZ
Day 6 - Grand Canyon National Park
Day 7 - Grand Canyon National Park and drove to Moab, UT
Day 8 - Zion National Park
Day 9 - Bryce National Park and drove to Richfield, UT
Day 10 - Capitol Reef National Park and drove to Green River, UT
Day 11- Canyonlands National Park (and eclipse), and Arches National Park, then drove to Grand Junction, CO
Day 12- drove to North Platte, NE
Day 13 - drove to Iowa City, IA
Day 14 - drove home
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Where did you get the hunk of free charging from the state of Utah x or did you mean “in the state of Utah?”
 

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While the Lightning would be more comfortable I don’t think I’d take it on a long road trip due to the combination of poor efficiency, large battery, slow charging relative to battery size.

Sounded like a cool trip. Nice time of year to do it too.
 


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I'll fill in stuff as I come across it and add to this post.

Planned trip with ABRP and PlugShare. Found that ABRP had issues with a 2 week trip, and often came back with no connectivity (on hardwired computer that was connected just fine). Ended up planning every day separately, for the 6 days of driving.

Besides the HVBJB going out on day 2 as the sun was setting and we were in a bad part of Tulsa, the car performed great. I should have taken the Lightning though, then I wouldn't have had to deal with the failure.

Paid for 1,001.742 kW of electricity at a cost of $389.36 (not counting home). However, Nebraska is still per minute, and due to our slow charging due to failed HVBJB, the cost was high. Normalizing that charging (remove costs, then put them back at 1.75kW per minute) removes $28.44 and puts the total at $360.92, or 36 cents per kilowatt (let's not debate kw vs. kwh please, I don't care...) including tax.

20kW from a Tesla charger in Moab, UT. No other options there, so happy to have it pop up before the trip. We got to our hotel with 13% battery, so that charge was essential. Car did not puke when ingesting the Tesla juice...

We got some free charging due to EA issues. We also got charging at some hotels, but many locations had no hotel charging options even with my heavy duty planning. By my records, we got a total of 628.268 free, including a good hunk from the State of Utah. 36.6% of our usage was free.

I should note - when planning, if I saw a hotel with free charging for $50 more than a hotel without free charging, I passed.

Left house with full charge of 91kW, so that's $14.10. Came home with 5% battery, so basically used on the trip $13.40 and 86.5kW.

1,001.742 + 628.268 + 86.5 = 1,716.51kW

4,708 miles / 1,716.51 = 2.74 miles per kilowatt hour. Given that the trip odometer shows 2.8, that jibes.

Cost per mile was $374.32 / 4708 = 7.95 cents.

Had I taken our 2013 F-150, getting say 19.5mpg, that's the equivalent of $1.55 gas.

All our trips have been North to South and back till now, this was the first East to West and back again trip. We hit strong headwinds on at least 2 legs, and discovered that the loss can be substantial. Made one stop with 6 miles of range left due to winds that slowed trucks to 55mph.

Overall, the EA network North to South is much better than that in states like Illinois, Oklahoma and New Mexico. Unfortunately, due to our blown HVBJB charging us at a whopping 48kW max (and mostly 41-42), from day 3 on there was nothing to track.

Met many different people at the charging stops, some informed, some not, some just not bright. Lots of UBER drivers charging to 100% at one stop, and many Chevy Bolt drivers.

BlueCruise performed well, of course I have 1.0 due to 1.3 not yet rolling out...

When I get free charging at an off-network charger, I try to remember to do a screen save from the Ford app before unplugging, but not always successful at remembering.

Day 1 - driving Michigan to St. Louis
Day 2 - Gateway Arch National Park, St. Louis, MO, then driving to Stroud, OK
Day 3 - driving to Santa Rosa, NM
Day 4 - woke up very early, drove to Albuquerque, NM for launch of Balloon Festival, then drove to Gallup, NM
Day 5 - Petrified Forest National Park and Painted Desert, visited a corner in Winslow, AZ
Day 6 - Grand Canyon National Park
Day 7 - Grand Canyon National Park and drove to Moab, UT
Day 8 - Zion National Park
Day 9 - Bryce National Park and drove to Richfield, UT
Day 10 - Capitol Reef National Park and drove to Green River, UT
Day 11- Canyonlands National Park (and eclipse), and Arches National Park, then drove to Grand Junction, CO
Day 12- drove to North Platte, NE
Day 13 - drove to Iowa City, IA
Day 14 - drove home
I showed this to my wife and said these people are pioneers of the 21st century. I would take a trip in our new model y awd long range but not ever again in our GTPE as the chargers seldom worked or never hooking up and slow when one worked. Using the model y with so many available superchargers was awesome. No planning required on main highways. Great comment for sure!
 
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Where did you get the hunk of free charging from the state of Utah x or did you mean “in the state of Utah?”
Richfield, Utah. State of Utah free DC fast chargers.
 
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I showed this to my wife and said these people are pioneers of the 21st century. I would take a trip in our new model y awd long range but not ever again in our GTPE as the chargers seldom worked or never hooking up and slow when one worked. Using the model y with so many available superchargers was awesome. No planning required on main highways. Great comment for sure!
[tongue-in-cheek-sarcasm font] See, this is where people are misinformed. EA's network performed perfectly! We got our 41, 42, 46kW of power at EVERY STOP without issue! [end tongue-in-cheek-sarcasm font]
 
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One is power, the other energy. Commonly interchanged and used incorrectly. Drive Engineers with OCD (like me) crazy. 😂
Hence the reason I did it... Parent of an engineer... 🤣
 
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While the Lightning would be more comfortable I don’t think I’d take it on a long road trip due to the combination of poor efficiency, large battery, slow charging relative to battery size.

Sounded like a cool trip. Nice time of year to do it too.
We planned the time of year, didn't plan on Columbus Day closing some stuff (yes, no film at Grand Canyon!!!!), or the eclipse (we realized it was coming, didn't realize they anticipate huge crowds - which didn't materialize) or that we'd be ground zero at Canyonlands watching it with goofy glasses on. Note for others - Mach-E roof is NOT eclipse shielded...

Low temp we saw was 26 degrees. High was over 80.
 

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[tongue-in-cheek-sarcasm font] See, this is where people are misinformed. EA's network performed perfectly! We got our 41, 42, 46kW of power at EVERY STOP without issue! [end tongue-in-cheek-sarcasm font]
Not here in PA or Ohio region.
 
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I'll fill in stuff as I come across it and add to this post.

Planned trip with ABRP and PlugShare. Found that ABRP had issues with a 2 week trip, and often came back with no connectivity (on hardwired computer that was connected just fine). Ended up planning every day separately, for the 6 days of driving.

Besides the HVBJB going out on day 2 as the sun was setting and we were in a bad part of Tulsa, the car performed great. I should have taken the Lightning though, then I wouldn't have had to deal with the failure.

Paid for 1,001.742 kW of electricity at a cost of $389.36 (not counting home). However, Nebraska is still per minute, and due to our slow charging due to failed HVBJB, the cost was high. Normalizing that charging (remove costs, then put them back at 1.75kW per minute) removes $28.44 and puts the total at $360.92, or 36 cents per kilowatt (let's not debate kw vs. kwh please, I don't care...) including tax.

20kW from a Tesla charger in Moab, UT. No other options there, so happy to have it pop up before the trip. We got to our hotel with 13% battery, so that charge was essential. Car did not puke when ingesting the Tesla juice...

We got some free charging due to EA issues. We also got charging at some hotels, but many locations had no hotel charging options even with my heavy duty planning. By my records, we got a total of 628.268 free, including a good hunk from the State of Utah. 36.6% of our usage was free.

I should note - when planning, if I saw a hotel with free charging for $50 more than a hotel without free charging, I passed.

Left house with full charge of 91kW, so that's $14.10. Came home with 5% battery, so basically used on the trip $13.40 and 86.5kW.

1,001.742 + 628.268 + 86.5 = 1,716.51kW

4,708 miles / 1,716.51 = 2.74 miles per kilowatt hour. Given that the trip odometer shows 2.8, that jibes.

Cost per mile was $374.32 / 4708 = 7.95 cents.

Had I taken our 2013 F-150, getting say 19.5mpg, that's the equivalent of $1.55 gas.

All our trips have been North to South and back till now, this was the first East to West and back again trip. We hit strong headwinds on at least 2 legs, and discovered that the loss can be substantial. Made one stop with 6 miles of range left due to winds that slowed trucks to 55mph.

Overall, the EA network North to South is much better than that in states like Illinois, Oklahoma and New Mexico. Unfortunately, due to our blown HVBJB charging us at a whopping 48kW max (and mostly 41-42), from day 3 on there was nothing to track.

Met many different people at the charging stops, some informed, some not, some just not bright. Lots of UBER drivers charging to 100% at one stop, and many Chevy Bolt drivers.

BlueCruise performed well, of course I have 1.0 due to 1.3 not yet rolling out...

When I get free charging at an off-network charger, I try to remember to do a screen save from the Ford app before unplugging, but not always successful at remembering.

Day 1 - driving Michigan to St. Louis
Day 2 - Gateway Arch National Park, St. Louis, MO, then driving to Stroud, OK
Day 3 - driving to Santa Rosa, NM
Day 4 - woke up very early, drove to Albuquerque, NM for launch of Balloon Festival, then drove to Gallup, NM
Day 5 - Petrified Forest National Park and Painted Desert, visited a corner in Winslow, AZ
Day 6 - Grand Canyon National Park
Day 7 - Grand Canyon National Park and drove to Moab, UT
Day 8 - Zion National Park
Day 9 - Bryce National Park and drove to Richfield, UT
Day 10 - Capitol Reef National Park and drove to Green River, UT
Day 11- Canyonlands National Park (and eclipse), and Arches National Park, then drove to Grand Junction, CO
Day 12- drove to North Platte, NE
Day 13 - drove to Iowa City, IA
Day 14 - drove home
That’s a lot of moving around! I like to stay inside parks and hike for 2-3 days each. We did Moab last year but was a week! Loved loved Canyonlands. Another year we did Zion and Bryce 3 nights inside each park.
 
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That’s a lot of moving around! I like to stay inside parks and hike for 2-3 days each. We did Moab last year but was a week! Loved loved Canyonlands. Another year we did Zion and Bryce 3 nights inside each park.
My wife did the parks as a child. We did 2 parks in CA with our son a few years back. Since we were doing our first big roadtrip, our intent was to see what we liked and didn't like, and plan for the future.

For example, we want to do the in-Grand Canyon stuff. And drive the 100 mile road in Arches(?). Have to check notes on that.

Not a big long hiker. We did do the Bright Angel Trail down to the first break spot (1.5 miles), then back up again, and matched the time (both 1:15), so that was fun...
 

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Love the write up, still waiting for some of those national park pictures though. lol
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