80,000 km / 50,000 mile Review & Stats

[MellowJohnny]

Just hit 80,000 km on Lucy, our 2022 Job 2 Premium!

Preamble:
This was actually my second order - I ordered the original car on Oct. 23, 2021. That first car went into production on January 26, 2022, and was built March 19, 2022 (or thereabouts). And then in June 2022, somewhere on a rail line, disaster struck and the car was kinda destroyed. At least to the point where I refused delivery.

Order #2:

• Confirmed June 7, 2022, scheduled to be built the week of Sept. 12 (which turned into Oct. 3rd)
• Left the factory Oct. 8th, arriving in Toronto about a month later
• In-service date is Nov. 12, 2022
• From the time I placed my first order to the time I actually drove the car off the lot was 386 days

To kill time while waiting I read the form a bit

Quantitative-ish Stuff:

• It took me 885 days - 2.4 years - to hit 80,000 km / 50,000 miles
• I figure I've saved about CAD $12,000 in gas vs. driving the equivalent kilometres in my XC-90 (which takes premium gas)
• I've had one "major" repair (covered under warranty) to replace a bum SOBDM module, although it took more than a year to actually get fixed, due to the incompetence of the dealer. Details here (spoiler alert - it wasn't the EVSE) - final details here
• I purchased an 8 year extended warranty, and have used it once to pay for a TSB ($100 deductible)
• Still on the same all season tires, but I swap to winters for about half the year
• I've had 39 OTAs since I took delivery, or about one every 23 days, give or take, with no failures.
• I've had one software update to fix a recall (23B50 - the tech also updated a few other modules that day) and I paid to have a TSB performed (25-2049A)
• Maintenance costs have essentially amounted to following the recommended schedule which for me roughly lines up with my summer/winter tire swaps, plus two pairs of wipers - I figure less than CAD$500 total
• I replaced the cabin air filter with the "premium" replacement (FPP89) myself. Don't wait two years like I did
• The first car my youngest daughter ever drove was electric!
• Longest road trip was around 1300 kilometres round trip
• I charge (almost) every night to 80% usually, 95% if I have a longer trip planned, and 100% if I'm leaving on a road trip
• Year 1 Charging Stats - AC and DC (I only logged the first year):
  • Average Monthly kWh: 565.5
  • Biggest Month: 784 kWh
  • Total kWh: 7,917.05
  • Avergage Monthly Cost: CAD $41.85 (not including delivery, tax, etc)
  • Total Charging Costs: CAD $585.86
  • 24 DCFC charge sessions
• Home AC charging has been via Chargepoint Home Flex since April 2023 and has been replaced once under warranty
• I have used a Tesla Supercharger once since receiving my adapter, but that's mostly because I have not road tripped since I got it. It was flawless.
• High Voltage Battery SOH shows 92% according to my OBDII reader
• Low Voltage Battery showed 92% SOC yesterday @ 13.3V - it was reset 33 days ago likely when the SOBDM was replaced

Qualitative:

• Best car I've ever owned. Most fun to drive, smoothest, and certainly accelerates the fastest.
• I do wish I had the Extended Range battery, but at the time it was an $8,000 option and I would have lost my $5,000 Federal Rebate, so all in it was $13k, which was too much. But next car I'd like a bit more range
• Which brings us to charging - faster next time. Admittedly I can count on one hand the number of times I actually "waited" for the car to charge when I wish I was on the road, but 800V architecture next time, or at least a more performant 400V.
• I wish the ride was a little less bouncy for those in the back seat, but to be honest it's not too bad.
• DCFC has gotten progressively better, but there were a few times in 2023 when I was "inconvenienced" by garbage DCFC infrastructure.

** EDIT **
Forgot two points:

• This car has more stone chips on it than I've seen on any of the other cars I've owned over the last 30 years
• Also the first car I've ever had get a stone chip in the windshield. And I have two in fact. One is too big to fix (they tried), so in the next few months I will be replacing the windshield.

So that's it! It's been fun so far, and I expect to keep the car for quite a while.

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[ATL]

Nice retrospective. Mine was built a few weeks after yours and has a lot fewer km but a similar great experience. Love the home charging (also have the ChargePoint).

 

[YeOldeTraveller]

Thanks for the report.

I did a trip from Ann Arbor, to Markham a week ago. I was not impressed with Ivy, and had my first issue with Tesla. I was able to initiate the charge from the In-Vehicle display, but that was needed as Plug and Charge did not work. I think that might have been due to being in Canada, but I have not had a chance to test it State-side.

 

[MellowJohnny]

Thanks for the report.

I did a trip from Ann Arbor, to Markham a week ago. I was not impressed with Ivy, and had my first issue with Tesla. I was able to initiate the charge from the In-Vehicle display, but that was needed as Plug and Charge did not work. I think that might have been due to being in Canada, but I have not had a chance to test it State-side.

Ivy is....broadly speaking....garbage. At least right now. They are thankfully replacing their original hardware (which also bears a striking resemblance to the original EA hardware) with new Kem Power units, which I'm eager to try. Once that happens it should be much more reliable, and since a single unit can power-share two cars, we end up with more plugs total for the same footprint.

 

[Teslaeata]

Just hit 80,000 km on Lucy, our 2022 Job 2 Premium!

Preamble:
This was actually my second order - I ordered the original car on Oct. 23, 2021. That first car went into production on January 26, 2022, and was built March 19, 2022 (or thereabouts). And then in June 2022, somewhere on a rail line, disaster struck and the car was kinda destroyed. At least to the point where I refused delivery.

Order #2:

• Confirmed June 7, 2022, scheduled to be built the week of Sept. 12 (which turned into Oct. 3rd)
• Left the factory Oct. 8th, arriving in Toronto about a month later
• In-service date is Nov. 12, 2022
• From the time I placed my first order to the time I actually drove the car off the lot was 386 days

To kill time while waiting I read the form a bit

Quantitative-ish Stuff:

• It took me 885 days - 2.4 years - to hit 80,000 km / 50,000 miles
• I figure I've saved about CAD $12,000 in gas vs. driving the equivalent kilometres in my XC-90 (which takes premium gas)
• I've had one "major" repair (covered under warranty) to replace a bum SOBDM module, although it took more than a year to actually get fixed, due to the incompetence of the dealer. Details here (spoiler alert - it wasn't the EVSE) - final details here
• I purchased an 8 year extended warranty, and have used it once to pay for a TSB ($100 deductible)
• Still on the same all season tires, but I swap to winters for about half the year
• I've had 39 OTAs since I took delivery, or about one every 23 days, give or take, with no failures.
• I've had one software update to fix a recall (23B50 - the tech also updated a few other modules that day) and I paid to have a TSB performed (25-2049A)
• Maintenance costs have essentially amounted to following the recommended schedule which for me roughly lines up with my summer/winter tire swaps, plus two pairs of wipers - I figure less than CAD$500 total
• I replaced the cabin air filter with the "premium" replacement (FPP89) myself. Don't wait two years like I did
• The first car my youngest daughter ever drove was electric!
• Longest road trip was around 1300 kilometres round trip
• I charge (almost) every night to 80% usually, 95% if I have a longer trip planned, and 100% if I'm leaving on a road trip
• Year 1 Charging Stats - AC and DC (I only logged the first year):
  • Average Monthly kWh: 565.5
  • Biggest Month: 784 kWh
  • Total kWh: 7,917.05
  • Avergage Monthly Cost: CAD $41.85 (not including delivery, tax, etc)
  • Total Charging Costs: CAD $585.86
  • 24 DCFC charge sessions
• Home AC charging has been via Chargepoint Home Flex since April 2023 and has been replaced once under warranty
• I have used a Tesla Supercharger once since receiving my adapter, but that's mostly because I have not road tripped since I got it. It was flawless.
• High Voltage Battery SOH shows 92% according to my OBDII reader
• Low Voltage Battery showed 92% SOC yesterday @ 13.3V - it was reset 33 days ago likely when the SOBDM was replaced

Qualitative:

• Best car I've ever owned. Most fun to drive, smoothest, and certainly accelerates the fastest.
• I do wish I had the Extended Range battery, but at the time it was an $8,000 option and I would have lost my $5,000 Federal Rebate, so all in it was $13k, which was too much. But next car I'd like a bit more range
• Which brings us to charging - faster next time. Admittedly I can count on one hand the number of times I actually "waited" for the car to charge when I wish I was on the road, but 800V architecture next time, or at least a more performant 400V.
• I wish the ride was a little less bouncy for those in the back seat, but to be honest it's not too bad.
• DCFC has gotten progressively better, but there were a few times in 2023 when I was "inconvenienced" by garbage DCFC infrastructure.

So that's it! It's been fun so far, and I expect to keep the car for quite a while.

112218 miles of stats from my spreadsheet:

In 927 charges delivering a total of 39,437.17kWh, 596 charges delivering 29,728kWh wear at home on the ABB 22kW charger though the car can only take 11kW maximum I believe.

331 charges delivering 9,708.24kWh were on DCFC charge points.

That provided an average of 2.85miles/kWh.

Quite a lot of the mileage is at motorway speed and heaters & A/Con mostly.

On UK petrol prices for ICE car achieving 40mpg delivered a saving of more than £8,000.

HVB has just been measured at 93.5% at 46mths.

E&OE

Am I happy with that? Youbetchabottomdollarboy!

 

[stinsvic]

Just hit 80,000 km on Lucy, our 2022 Job 2 Premium!

Preamble:
This was actually my second order - I ordered the original car on Oct. 23, 2021. That first car went into production on January 26, 2022, and was built March 19, 2022 (or thereabouts). And then in June 2022, somewhere on a rail line, disaster struck and the car was kinda destroyed. At least to the point where I refused delivery.

Order #2:

• Confirmed June 7, 2022, scheduled to be built the week of Sept. 12 (which turned into Oct. 3rd)
• Left the factory Oct. 8th, arriving in Toronto about a month later
• In-service date is Nov. 12, 2022
• From the time I placed my first order to the time I actually drove the car off the lot was 386 days

To kill time while waiting I read the form a bit

Quantitative-ish Stuff:

• It took me 885 days - 2.4 years - to hit 80,000 km / 50,000 miles
• I figure I've saved about CAD $12,000 in gas vs. driving the equivalent kilometres in my XC-90 (which takes premium gas)
• I've had one "major" repair (covered under warranty) to replace a bum SOBDM module, although it took more than a year to actually get fixed, due to the incompetence of the dealer. Details here (spoiler alert - it wasn't the EVSE) - final details here
• I purchased an 8 year extended warranty, and have used it once to pay for a TSB ($100 deductible)
• Still on the same all season tires, but I swap to winters for about half the year
• I've had 39 OTAs since I took delivery, or about one every 23 days, give or take, with no failures.
• I've had one software update to fix a recall (23B50 - the tech also updated a few other modules that day) and I paid to have a TSB performed (25-2049A)
• Maintenance costs have essentially amounted to following the recommended schedule which for me roughly lines up with my summer/winter tire swaps, plus two pairs of wipers - I figure less than CAD$500 total
• I replaced the cabin air filter with the "premium" replacement (FPP89) myself. Don't wait two years like I did
• The first car my youngest daughter ever drove was electric!
• Longest road trip was around 1300 kilometres round trip
• I charge (almost) every night to 80% usually, 95% if I have a longer trip planned, and 100% if I'm leaving on a road trip
• Year 1 Charging Stats - AC and DC (I only logged the first year):
  • Average Monthly kWh: 565.5
  • Biggest Month: 784 kWh
  • Total kWh: 7,917.05
  • Avergage Monthly Cost: CAD $41.85 (not including delivery, tax, etc)
  • Total Charging Costs: CAD $585.86
  • 24 DCFC charge sessions
• Home AC charging has been via Chargepoint Home Flex since April 2023 and has been replaced once under warranty
• I have used a Tesla Supercharger once since receiving my adapter, but that's mostly because I have not road tripped since I got it. It was flawless.
• High Voltage Battery SOH shows 92% according to my OBDII reader
• Low Voltage Battery showed 92% SOC yesterday @ 13.3V - it was reset 33 days ago likely when the SOBDM was replaced

Qualitative:

• Best car I've ever owned. Most fun to drive, smoothest, and certainly accelerates the fastest.
• I do wish I had the Extended Range battery, but at the time it was an $8,000 option and I would have lost my $5,000 Federal Rebate, so all in it was $13k, which was too much. But next car I'd like a bit more range
• Which brings us to charging - faster next time. Admittedly I can count on one hand the number of times I actually "waited" for the car to charge when I wish I was on the road, but 800V architecture next time, or at least a more performant 400V.
• I wish the ride was a little less bouncy for those in the back seat, but to be honest it's not too bad.
• DCFC has gotten progressively better, but there were a few times in 2023 when I was "inconvenienced" by garbage DCFC infrastructure.

So that's it! It's been fun so far, and I expect to keep the car for quite a while.

Nice car looks like mine!!

 

[PharaohHound138]

I just hit 50,000 miles on my '22 Premium also. I learned 3 solid facts......
1. Driving Electric is great and all the terrible things you hear are 75% false/exaggerated

2. Tech never works 100% as intended

3. If you drive a diesel truck you must have some irrational hatred/fear of EV's

 

[Nikos]

Just hit 80,000 km on Lucy, our 2022 Job 2 Premium!

Preamble:
This was actually my second order - I ordered the original car on Oct. 23, 2021. That first car went into production on January 26, 2022, and was built March 19, 2022 (or thereabouts). And then in June 2022, somewhere on a rail line, disaster struck and the car was kinda destroyed. At least to the point where I refused delivery.

Order #2:

• Confirmed June 7, 2022, scheduled to be built the week of Sept. 12 (which turned into Oct. 3rd)
• Left the factory Oct. 8th, arriving in Toronto about a month later
• In-service date is Nov. 12, 2022
• From the time I placed my first order to the time I actually drove the car off the lot was 386 days

To kill time while waiting I read the form a bit

Quantitative-ish Stuff:

• It took me 885 days - 2.4 years - to hit 80,000 km / 50,000 miles
• I figure I've saved about CAD $12,000 in gas vs. driving the equivalent kilometres in my XC-90 (which takes premium gas)
• I've had one "major" repair (covered under warranty) to replace a bum SOBDM module, although it took more than a year to actually get fixed, due to the incompetence of the dealer. Details here (spoiler alert - it wasn't the EVSE) - final details here
• I purchased an 8 year extended warranty, and have used it once to pay for a TSB ($100 deductible)
• Still on the same all season tires, but I swap to winters for about half the year
• I've had 39 OTAs since I took delivery, or about one every 23 days, give or take, with no failures.
• I've had one software update to fix a recall (23B50 - the tech also updated a few other modules that day) and I paid to have a TSB performed (25-2049A)
• Maintenance costs have essentially amounted to following the recommended schedule which for me roughly lines up with my summer/winter tire swaps, plus two pairs of wipers - I figure less than CAD$500 total
• I replaced the cabin air filter with the "premium" replacement (FPP89) myself. Don't wait two years like I did
• The first car my youngest daughter ever drove was electric!
• Longest road trip was around 1300 kilometres round trip
• I charge (almost) every night to 80% usually, 95% if I have a longer trip planned, and 100% if I'm leaving on a road trip
• Year 1 Charging Stats - AC and DC (I only logged the first year):
  • Average Monthly kWh: 565.5
  • Biggest Month: 784 kWh
  • Total kWh: 7,917.05
  • Avergage Monthly Cost: CAD $41.85 (not including delivery, tax, etc)
  • Total Charging Costs: CAD $585.86
  • 24 DCFC charge sessions
• Home AC charging has been via Chargepoint Home Flex since April 2023 and has been replaced once under warranty
• I have used a Tesla Supercharger once since receiving my adapter, but that's mostly because I have not road tripped since I got it. It was flawless.
• High Voltage Battery SOH shows 92% according to my OBDII reader
• Low Voltage Battery showed 92% SOC yesterday @ 13.3V - it was reset 33 days ago likely when the SOBDM was replaced

Qualitative:

• Best car I've ever owned. Most fun to drive, smoothest, and certainly accelerates the fastest.
• I do wish I had the Extended Range battery, but at the time it was an $8,000 option and I would have lost my $5,000 Federal Rebate, so all in it was $13k, which was too much. But next car I'd like a bit more range
• Which brings us to charging - faster next time. Admittedly I can count on one hand the number of times I actually "waited" for the car to charge when I wish I was on the road, but 800V architecture next time, or at least a more performant 400V.
• I wish the ride was a little less bouncy for those in the back seat, but to be honest it's not too bad.
• DCFC has gotten progressively better, but there were a few times in 2023 when I was "inconvenienced" by garbage DCFC infrastructure.

So that's it! It's been fun so far, and I expect to keep the car for quite a while.

I don’t have the miles you have on my Job 1 2021 Premium EX. Never had any problems with mine yet, although I had all the recalls done anyways.
I am on my second ChargePoint Home Flex wall unit. The 48amp setting prove to be to ambitious for that unit which it was replaced in three weeks with an identical one but derated to 40amps.
No problems since then. My average monthly consumption for my ME is roughly $20. My ME is more than 4 years old. No regrets and thankful that I was, “first adaptor”.
Enjoy the ride.

 

[billkirk1960]

I love reading long-term reviews like this to get an idea of what to expect, as my wife and I just bought a '24 Premium AWD ER in January. So far it's been flawless, and we just had the L2 Pro charger installed last week, which really helps out. The L1 cord that came with the car is now in the frunk.

 

[coffeejeff]

Just hit 80,000 km on Lucy, our 2022 Job 2 Premium!

Preamble:
This was actually my second order - I ordered the original car on Oct. 23, 2021. That first car went into production on January 26, 2022, and was built March 19, 2022 (or thereabouts). And then in June 2022, somewhere on a rail line, disaster struck and the car was kinda destroyed. At least to the point where I refused delivery.

Order #2:

• Confirmed June 7, 2022, scheduled to be built the week of Sept. 12 (which turned into Oct. 3rd)
• Left the factory Oct. 8th, arriving in Toronto about a month later
• In-service date is Nov. 12, 2022
• From the time I placed my first order to the time I actually drove the car off the lot was 386 days

To kill time while waiting I read the form a bit

Quantitative-ish Stuff:

• It took me 885 days - 2.4 years - to hit 80,000 km / 50,000 miles
• I figure I've saved about CAD $12,000 in gas vs. driving the equivalent kilometres in my XC-90 (which takes premium gas)
• I've had one "major" repair (covered under warranty) to replace a bum SOBDM module, although it took more than a year to actually get fixed, due to the incompetence of the dealer. Details here (spoiler alert - it wasn't the EVSE) - final details here
• I purchased an 8 year extended warranty, and have used it once to pay for a TSB ($100 deductible)
• Still on the same all season tires, but I swap to winters for about half the year
• I've had 39 OTAs since I took delivery, or about one every 23 days, give or take, with no failures.
• I've had one software update to fix a recall (23B50 - the tech also updated a few other modules that day) and I paid to have a TSB performed (25-2049A)
• Maintenance costs have essentially amounted to following the recommended schedule which for me roughly lines up with my summer/winter tire swaps, plus two pairs of wipers - I figure less than CAD$500 total
• I replaced the cabin air filter with the "premium" replacement (FPP89) myself. Don't wait two years like I did
• The first car my youngest daughter ever drove was electric!
• Longest road trip was around 1300 kilometres round trip
• I charge (almost) every night to 80% usually, 95% if I have a longer trip planned, and 100% if I'm leaving on a road trip
• Year 1 Charging Stats - AC and DC (I only logged the first year):
  • Average Monthly kWh: 565.5
  • Biggest Month: 784 kWh
  • Total kWh: 7,917.05
  • Avergage Monthly Cost: CAD $41.85 (not including delivery, tax, etc)
  • Total Charging Costs: CAD $585.86
  • 24 DCFC charge sessions
• Home AC charging has been via Chargepoint Home Flex since April 2023 and has been replaced once under warranty
• I have used a Tesla Supercharger once since receiving my adapter, but that's mostly because I have not road tripped since I got it. It was flawless.
• High Voltage Battery SOH shows 92% according to my OBDII reader
• Low Voltage Battery showed 92% SOC yesterday @ 13.3V - it was reset 33 days ago likely when the SOBDM was replaced

Qualitative:

• Best car I've ever owned. Most fun to drive, smoothest, and certainly accelerates the fastest.
• I do wish I had the Extended Range battery, but at the time it was an $8,000 option and I would have lost my $5,000 Federal Rebate, so all in it was $13k, which was too much. But next car I'd like a bit more range
• Which brings us to charging - faster next time. Admittedly I can count on one hand the number of times I actually "waited" for the car to charge when I wish I was on the road, but 800V architecture next time, or at least a more performant 400V.
• I wish the ride was a little less bouncy for those in the back seat, but to be honest it's not too bad.
• DCFC has gotten progressively better, but there were a few times in 2023 when I was "inconvenienced" by garbage DCFC infrastructure.

So that's it! It's been fun so far, and I expect to keep the car for quite a while.

Nice review. I wish I had the same experience. I used to love the car until it stopped charging at home, my other more reliable ev charges fine on same hardware. Local dealer is useless unless you have a big gas truck. My first and last ford. Hopefully you won’t have a problem, that’s when you find out how ford really works.

 

[MellowJohnny]

Nice review. I wish I had the same experience. I used to love the car until it stopped charging at home, my other more reliable ev charges fine on same hardware. Local dealer is useless unless you have a big gas truck. My first and last ford. Hopefully you won’t have a problem, that’s when you find out how ford really works.

I did, and it took a year for them to figure out what was wrong.

But it sounds like you have the same problem I did - a bad SOBDM module. It is responsible for AC charging, so it seems like a logical place to start looking.

Sounds like you need to find a new dealer who has a L2 EVSE they can test it on.

 

[HiVolts]

Yeah, Ford best vehicles money can buy.

 

[MellowJohnny]

Yeah, Ford best vehicles money can buy.

Any bias in your post Tom? ;-)

This is the first Ford I've owned, and so far I'm pretty happy. I do wish the paint was a bit more durable - easily the most stone chips I've ever seen on any of my cars.

 

[cooltatts]

Any battery degradation after 80K km? I’m still at 600km (picked up two weeks ago) but am curious how the NMC battery holds up?

 

[MellowJohnny]

Any battery degradation after 80K km? I’m still at 600km (picked up two weeks ago) but am curious how the NMC battery holds up?

OBDII scan showed the HVB at 92% health, which I was a bit surprised at, I thought it would be a bit higher. Not enough to notice to be honest.

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