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in fact, i hope the mach-e’s wind and road noise is quieter than in teslas.
I think it will be. I’m used to it now but when I first started driving the Model 3 it was louder inside from road noise than my Subaru Legacy. Lot of owners have issues with the noise level and some cottage industry Model 3 sound insulators are in business.

If part of the 40 mile range difference is in a 5dba sound drop, that would be a good trade off.
 

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I wonder if the Appearance Package will be inexpensive or should I just upgrade to a Premium version. If the package is around 3K then I'll stick with the Select.
 

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I wonder if the Appearance Package will be inexpensive or should I just upgrade to a Premium version. If the package is around 3K then I'll stick with the Select.
I hope it's cheaper than that. Otherwise it's not worth getting select and adding to it. The heated seats, 360 cameraa, autopark, etc along with appearance pkg would be worth just getting the premium for an extra few grand
 

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Very nice and complete update by Ford on the MaCH e - except they conveniently sidesteped the cost of "supercharging" on-the-road charging. My Tesla costs $0.28 per kWh in CA. If the e-Mustang is over $0.30 per kWh, I walk. Simple as that. I refuse to pay about $60K for an automobile that requires the equivilant of about $8 per gal gasoline. Think about it - it wouldn't take too many years for a Bentely to amortize less expensive than a $60K EV consuming even medium amounts of $0.45 - $0.8 electricity.
This really only matters if you don't have a way to charge at home OR consistently take your car on road trips longer than it's range.

That's likely a very very small percentage of potential buyers. Me personally I might need to use "superchargers" 2-3 times a year at most. So 100 bucks difference in a year isn't a big deal.

Also they don't set the prices like Tesla's does and there are multiple options so I'm not sure why they would mention third party pricing in there advertising
 

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yeah i noticed the wiper activated headlamps too.

after some googling, it looks to comply with a possible ca law that will mandate the headlights come on when the car senses rain or the wipers go on to help reduce accidents in bad weather
In PA too it's the law to have lights on with the wipers.
So it may have been just an easy feature to add in the software as the lights/wiper laws spread.
 

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Lights projected onto the ground outside the driver's side door when getting in out? How cool! Never heard of that one before.

That's an impressive page of features. And well presented. Very enticing for the "Average Joe" customer.
Yes, it is very cool, got it on our Highlander Hybrid a couple of years ago. Highlander shows it on passenger side also.
 

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In most of our last few Fords the lights on with wipers has been a setting you can turn on/off (I think that setting is even in the Bolt).
 

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Just have to itemize the parking and other costs from the per kWh costs.

"“Electric vehicle service providers are allowed to charge ancillary fees such as: a connection fee; waiting fee for staying connected after reaching full state of charge; parking fee where such charges are normally applied; and a non-network access fee where applicable, provided that these fees are disclosed to the consumer prior to initiating a charging session (there may be other allowed fees not identified in this example).”
Unfortunately, Electrify America is not doing all of that. Shows charge fee, standby fee, grace periods, but shows $0.69 per minute charging regardless of actual KWH taken aboard. Friday, I paid almost $16 for under 15 kWh. Ouch.
 

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Unfortunately, Electrify America is not doing all of that
They will when the law goes into effect. They have to show the price per kWh by itself.

My last two EA charges.

Total session cost
$15.54
Total energy delivered
42.60 kWh
Total charging time
00:58:09
Charging cost
$1.00 +$0.25/min
Max power level
50.00 kW

That's $0.36 per kWh vs. Tesla $0.28-$0.31 per kWh.

Total session cost
$17.75
Total energy delivered
50.791 kWh
Total charging time
01:07:00
Charging cost
$1.00 +$0.25/min
Max power level
50.00 kW

That's $0.35 per kWh.
 

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Very nice and complete update by Ford on the MaCH e - except they conveniently sidesteped the cost of "supercharging" on-the-road charging. My Tesla costs $0.28 per kWh in CA. If the e-Mustang is over $0.30 per kWh, I walk. Simple as that. I refuse to pay about $60K for an automobile that requires the equivilant of about $8 per gal gasoline. Think about it - it wouldn't take too many years for a Bentely to amortize less expensive than a $60K EV consuming even medium amounts of $0.45 - $0.8 electricity.
If you can manage 3.5 miles per kW that would be 285Wh/mile. 25 miles range (roughly the mpg of many ICE vehicles) would require 7 kW. 30 cents per kWh would ‘only’ be $2.10
 
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I started this thread to understand all the great things of the Mach 3.
What we like or dislike about it. We could really explain to each other
all the details to expect. There is so much we can learn from each other.
I enjoy all your input. Let's stay on track.
That being said: START a new thread about your damn KW prices.
A least people will know where to look for that information.😫
 

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I started this thread to understand all the great things of the Mach 3.
What we like or dislike about it. We could really explain to each other
all the details to expect. There is so much we can learn from each other.
I enjoy all your input. Let's stay on track.
That being said: START a new thread about your damn KW prices.
A least people will know where to look for that information.😫
Yes, please.

back to our program: I am getting the select edition, so seeing the appearance package with black roof and different wheels is intriguing. I really liked the black painted roof on car that was at Ford hq a month ago, but looking at the "upgraded" aero wheels I am not so sure about them. I really hate the Tonka truck covers that tesla provides with the 3, but then the wheels look pretty good without the covers on. I wonder how the mach e would look with Ford aero covers off?
 

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Well a couple of things from this thread:
@timbop I too wonder what is under the Ford aero covers too, however, I love the M3's wheels under the aero covers but I bet Ford just has a set of steelies (steel wheels) under them.
- I am a sucker for little trick things like lights/wipers settings
- and puddle lights for entry with Mustangs showing. My 2012 was one model year too early to get those when they came out in 2013.

- what are the chances they'll eventually OTA Update the Mach-E with the Geo-Tracking (whatever the term is called) where once you "pin" a GPS location the car can start opening your garage doors and things as you arrive at a certain point?
I know the Model S has that feature to also raise and lower the car at designated pin points for people with steep driveways. Does the 3 have that?
I didn't miss where this was a feature already, did I?
 
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