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  1. PaaK functionality does not always work
    1. Note: This is balanced on the positive side with door code and passcode-to-start
  2. Only get 1 remote with the Mach E
  3. No button on the FOB remote to open the frunk
  4. Frunk divider
    1. Note: this is balanced that if you take the divider out, the frunk is super spacious
  5. Apple Carplay is unreliable
    1. Note when this happens the track forward/backward buttons stop working
  6. The panoramic glass roof has no shade
    1. Note: same complaint for other EVs with similar roof
  7. Less efficient than competition
    1. Note: but has a larger battery than competition to make up for it
  8. Alex's complaint is that Ford should have gamed the EPA system just like Tesla so the cars could be more easily compared. Real-world range is very close to EPA range vs. Tesla which is not.
  9. Tires are too skinny
  10. Ground clearance is too low (lower than the Polestar 2 and Model Y)
 
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The tires are WAY too skinny and/or WAY too slippery. There's simply no excuse for this lack of grip in a vehicle with the Mustang on the front, back, keys, wheels, steering wheel, etc. etc.

It's either a Mustang, or it has Prius grip, but not both.
 

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I can happily live with all of his "complaints" for some time knowing most of them can be fixed without my involvement. Yeah, wider tires and roof shade would be really great though... And, yes, the second FOB - I hope they will distribute additional ones via dealerships - one FOB for $50K vehicle is just unforgivable.
 

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11. No tow hitch.
12. No opening sunroof / pano roof.
13. No ventilated front seats.

Those are my huge ones, and one reason I have not taken the plunge yet. I may go ahead, but those have always been required minimum items for a new car. The Explorer ST has everything - except it is not an EV.
 

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giving up on the PAAK and going back to the fob has increased my enjoyment of the car immensely. i do wish there was an upgrade option to swap out the stock rims/tires for the GT for those customers that prefer performance over range
 

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  1. Alex's complaint is that Ford should have gamed the EPA system just like Tesla so the cars could be more easily compared. Less efficient than competition, but has a larger battery than competition. Real-world range is very close to EPA range vs. Tesla which is not.
wait wait wait the complaint is "how dare Ford be more accurate on range?"

that's a truly idiotic complaint.

the proper complaint would be to hammer Tesla about this like so many other things that they get away with. everybody else in the industry except them seems to be underplaying or nailing their range estimates - Porsche, Kia/Hyundai, etc.

unfortunately such a stupid complaint invalidates the entire video as sus. (*)

(*) the kids tell me this is a word now.
 

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  1. PaaK functionality does not always work Don't care
    1. Note: This is balanced on the positive side with door code and passcode-to-start
  2. Only get 1 remote with the Mach E Don't care
  3. No button on the FOB remote to open the frunk Don't care
  4. Frunk divider Love it!
    1. Note: this is balanced that if you take the divider out, the frunk is super spacious
  5. Apple Carplay is unreliable Will be fixed
    1. Note when this happens the track forward/backward buttons stop working
  6. The panoramic glass roof has no shade. Give me more sun in Seattle.
    1. Note: same complaint for other EVs with similar roof
  7. Alex's complaint is that Ford should have gamed the EPA system just like Tesla so the cars could be more easily compared. Less efficient than competition, but has a larger battery than competition. Real-world range is very close to EPA range vs. Tesla which is not. Deal-Breaker! I must have bragging rights!
  8. Tires are too skinny. Will shred them ASAP, and buy 245's
  9. Ground clearance is too low (lower than the Polestar 2 and Model Y) YES!!!

For the life of me, I missed whatever the 10th No tow hitch one was, maybe that it is the heaviest "Mustang"?
 

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11. No tow hitch.
12. No opening sunroof / pano roof.
13. No ventilated front seats.

Those are my huge ones, and one reason I have not taken the plunge yet. I may go ahead, but those have always been required minimum items for a new car. The Explorer ST has everything - except it is not an EV.
I understand. But like I said in other places. To keep costs down in a BEV some things have to be cut or prices go higher and higher. Can't compare Ice to BEV.
 

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#7 was a two parter. Efficiency is lower than the leader in the segment (but better than ID4). As far as the range calculation goes, here's the thing: Unless everyone uses the same testing cycle, however idiotic that cycle is, you have no basis to compare. When a consumer is shopping for a car and car X gets 15% "better" economy than Y, you'd expect that to be more or less the case in real world driving, even if the actual numbers are off. Likewise with EVs when one EV says 320 miles and the other says 270, most shoppers will assume the car that's listed at 270 won't go as far, even if that's not reality. A level playing field, no matter how insane that field is, would benefit Ford.
 

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#7 was a two parter. Efficiency is lower than the leader in the segment (but better than ID4). As far as the range calculation goes, here's the thing: Unless everyone uses the same testing cycle, however idiotic that cycle is, you have no basis to compare. When a consumer is shopping for a car and car X gets 15% "better" economy than Y, you'd expect that to be more or less the case in real world driving, even if the actual numbers are off. Likewise with EVs when one EV says 320 miles and the other says 270, most shoppers will assume the car that's listed at 270 won't go as far, even if that's not reality. A level playing field, no matter how insane that field is, would benefit Ford.
Welcome Alex! Thanks for popping in here. Love your videos.
 

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#7 was a two parter. Efficiency is lower than the leader in the segment (but better than ID4). As far as the range calculation goes, here's the thing: Unless everyone uses the same testing cycle, however idiotic that cycle is, you have no basis to compare. When a consumer is shopping for a car and car X gets 15% "better" economy than Y, you'd expect that to be more or less the case in real world driving, even if the actual numbers are off. Likewise with EVs when one EV says 320 miles and the other says 270, most shoppers will assume the car that's listed at 270 won't go as far, even if that's not reality. A level playing field, no matter how insane that field is, would benefit Ford.
Well, Welcome Alex. Glad you can join us. I agree it would of leveled the playing field, but ford didn't. That is why "us" as consumers all watch your videos and others to get the truth. Thank you for pointing out the lack of tesla true range.

Oh and the test you said that is coming. I would say it might be your most-watched video ever when it's done. You, kyle, and others have said they are going to do a true range test and the world is waiting. Really it's that big of a deal.
 

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