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Did he test with TC on or off for the first three test? In standard gas cars with transfer cases, de-activating TC will help because the induced slippage will "encourage" the software to send more power to the non slipping wheels.
 

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14:11 of mehh...
 
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I wouldn’t say that. They’re one of the very few channels that does these type of slip tests, and it was good too see the results. To be fair, I’ve watched a lot of them and the MME didn’t do any worse than most crossovers.
 

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For electric cars that should be able to send power to specific wheel I would say I’m not impressed that both models couldn’t get unstuck from the 3 wheel slip test at the end.
 
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For electric cars that should be able to send power to specific wheel I would say I’m not impressed that both models couldn’t get unstuck from the 3 wheel slip test at the end.
That would be true if there were 4 motors, but there are only 2. That means it’s just like any ICE vehicle with an open differential. It has to rely on traction control to apply brakes to the wheel that’s slipping. Most similar systems (ICE and BEV) perform similarly in this test. You have to get into more robust 4WD systems geared for off-road to perform substantially better.
 

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That would be true if there were 4 motors, but there are only 2. That means it’s just like any ICE vehicle with an open differential. It has to rely on traction control to apply brakes to the wheel that’s slipping. Most similar systems (ICE and BEV) perform similarly in this test. You have to get into more robust 4WD systems geared for off-road to perform substantially better.
Oh right I was assuming the inner working differently.
 

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The one thing I would have done though was put it in L and not Drive. Most drivers don't realize that by putting in L you send more torque to the wheels and it'll help you get out. Adding more throttle is now the way to get out unless your tires are garbage. Also if the tires were winter tires i think you could get out in the 3 wheel slip test.
 
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The one thing I would have done though was put it in L and not Drive. Most drivers don't realize that by putting in L you send more torque to the wheels and it'll help you get out. Adding more throttle is now the way to get out unless your tires are garbage. Also if the tires were winter tires i think you could get out in the 3 wheel slip test.
That may help in a vehicle with a multi-gear transmission by forcing it to stay in a low gear. But in the MME, the L setting just applies more regenerative braking when lifting off the accelerator (assuming 1PD is off). That would not help with this test.
 

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I wouldn’t say that. They’re one of the very few channels that does these type of slip tests, and it was good too see the results. To be fair, I’ve watched a lot of them and the MME didn’t do any worse than most crossovers.
I would like to see him adjust for some of the variables he mentioned, e.g. tires. Also even though he seemed impartial, I would really like to do one of these tests blinded (although not sure how to do that)starting out with two cars that have not been put through the test before, doing it a few times. There is some learning/finessing involved on the part of the driver and perhaps the vehicle itself. MME might not have done as well on his test as the MY but viewing it, all I keep thinking was that it sure looks sharper —both inside and out! I’ll still take the MME.
 
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I would like to see him adjust for some of the variables he mentioned, e.g. tires. Also even though he seemed impartial, I would really like to do one of these tests blinded (although not sure how to do that)starting out with two cars that have not been put through the test before, doing it a few times. There is some learning/finessing involved on the part of the driver and perhaps the vehicle itself. MME might not have done as well on his test as the MY but viewing it, all I keep thinking was that it sure looks sharper —both inside and out! I’ll still take the MME.
I would say the results showed that the MME and MY would be about equivalent in a real word situation. If your wheels are stuck, it doesn’t matter if it takes a second or two longer for the other wheels to get you out.
 

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In terms of the MME taking longer in all the tasks, would the tip in tuning on the engaged drive mode have any impact on time? Would it have been quicker if it was in unbridled, which has a more aggressive tip in? Can anyone tell me if the performance MY has a bigger motor on one or both axles, if at all?
 
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In terms of the MME taking longer in all the tasks, would the tip in tuning on the engaged drive mode have any impact on time? Would it have been quicker if it was in unbridled, which has a more aggressive tip in?
It wouldn‘t have mattered. He actually did try unbridled in the last test. It likely just comes down to the algorithms used in the traction control systems. It has to figure out what’s going on by spinning the wheels to know where to apply the brakes so power is redirected to the wheels that aren’t spinning.
 



 









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