Best Canadian Charger locating app

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Just wondering what charger app everyone uses in Canada for finding the most or best chargers?
I have downloaded plug share, charge point, electrify Canada, and petro Canada Ev and it looks like plug share is the most comprehensive. I am however surprised at how few dc chargers higher than 50kw there are out there in southern Ontario.
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Just wondering what charger app everyone uses in Canada for finding the most or best chargers?
I have downloaded plug share, charge point, electrify Canada, and petro Canada Ev and it looks like plug share is the most comprehensive. I am however surprised at how few dc chargers higher than 50kw there are out there in southern Ontario.
Not sure your location Canada is not small. 50 KW it is and it is better than it use to be.

Plug share https://www.plugshare.com/
With help from
Ivy https://ivycharge.com/
electric circuit https://lecircuitelectrique.com/en/find-a-station/

All have apps and of course fordpass and google maps
 
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Not sure your location Canada is not small. 50 KW it is and it is better than it use to be.

Plug share https://www.plugshare.com/
With help from
Ivy https://ivycharge.com/
electric circuit https://lecircuitelectrique.com/en/find-a-station/

All have apps and of course fordpass and google maps
Thanks, I’m from southern Ontario near Hamilton. Based on what we see so far we don’t see much of a consistent charge rate above 50kw anyways, so maybe it won’t matter much. This is my first electric car so I’m still suffering from range/charge anxiety a bit and just trying to understand what the trips I expect to make will look like.
Would you know the math of what kind of realistic km’s of range you would get from 20mins on a 50kwh charger?
 

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Thanks, I’m from southern Ontario near Hamilton. Based on what we see so far we don’t see much of a consistent charge rate above 50kw anyways, so maybe it won’t matter much. This is my first electric car so I’m still suffering from range/charge anxiety a bit and just trying to understand what the trips I expect to make will look like.
Would you know the math of what kind of realistic km’s of range you would get from 20mins on a 50kwh charger?
Lived in Hamilton for a bit did my Master at Mac. This is my first also. Not too many long range EV's released to date.

Based on the MME's highway dyna number and past EV's info I have a spread sheet projecting range at different speeds and temps for the MME. Range is based on temperature and speed which goes down quick as the exterior temperature goes down and speed goes up (slowing down can help range as long as heating and other accessories are not consuming more than slowing down saved). Traveling at a speed of 105 Km/hr with a start charge of 90% and arriving at the next charger at 5 to 10% remaining at 20 C the range should be around 300 km and at -20 C (same speed) only 190 km. Ballparks assuming 15% used by accessories.

Hard to determine range from charger speed as temp and speed, as noted above, change that. If you are charging from 10 to 90% that is 0.8 x 88KWh or 70.4 KWh. At 50 KW charge speed (constant?) it would take 70.4/50 = 1.4 hours and the range would be dependent on speed and temp as described above. Long story trying to answer your question; so 20 minutes gives you 50KWx0.3333h or 16.6 KWh. Above was based on 70.4 KWh so at 105 Km/hr it is 16.6/70.4 x 300 Km about 70 Km at 20 C and 45 at -20.
 
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Lived in Hamilton for a bit did my Master at Mac. This is my first also. Not too many long range EV's released to date.

Based on the MME's highway dyna number and past EV's info I have a spread sheet projecting range at different speeds and temps for the MME. Range is based on temperature and speed which goes down quick as the exterior temperature goes down and speed goes up (slowing down can help range as long as heating and other accessories are not consuming more than slowing down saved). Traveling at a speed of 105 Km/hr with a start charge of 90% and arriving at the next charger at 5 to 10% remaining at 20 C the range should be around 300 km and at -20 C (same speed) only 190 km. Ballparks assuming 15% used by accessories.

Hard to determine range from charger speed as temp and speed, as noted above, change that. If you are charging from 10 to 90% that is 0.8 x 88KWh or 70.4 KWh. At 50 KW charge speed (constant?) it would take 70.4/50 = 1.4 hours and the range would be dependent on speed and temp as described above. Long story trying to answer your question; so 20 minutes gives you 50KWx0.3333h or 16.6 KWh. Above was based on 70.4 KWh so at 105 Km/hr it is 16.6/70.4 x 300 Km about 70 Km at 20 C and 45 at -20.
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