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I have a NEMA 6-50 in my garage. Can I use this to charge my Mustang Mach-E.

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Certainly - Ford's included Mobile Charger only includes a 14-50 plug, they may eventually offer a 6-50, but no current plans that I'm aware of.

Many aftermarket EVSE's have a 6-50 plug option. (I recommend checking out the Grizzl-E.)
 

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If you're in a pinch I believe there's also adapters to go from one to the other. Not ideal, but if the charger you want/have doesn't have the right plug there's work arounds.
 

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I have a NEMA 6-50 in my garage. Can I use this to charge my Mustang Mach-E.

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I have a 6-50 plug in the garage and a charger for it. As has been stated, ChargePoint, Grizzl-E and Clipper Creek and others can be ordered with that plug. If you want to use the mobile charger that comes with the MME, you'll need an adapter. Something similar to this:

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I have a 6-50 plug in the garage and a charger for it. As has been stated, ChargePoint, Grizzl-E and Clipper Creek and others can be ordered with that plug. If you want to use the mobile charger that comes with the MME, you'll need an adapter. Something similar to this:

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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I've got the 6-50 plug. I'm sure there will be some loss of amperage across the multiple plugs, but it's still going to be more than sufficient.
 

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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I've got the 6-50 plug. I'm sure there will be some loss of amperage across the multiple plugs, but it's still going to be more than sufficient.
I'd instead recommend something like the Grizzl-E. I also just ordered mine. It's only $399 (granted it's still a lot), but if you order prior to the end of 2020, you can claim a 30% tax credit. Hard to beat for $279. That way you don't have to worry about plugging / unplugging the Ford Mobile Charger when you want to take it with you...

and I wouldn't be certain that the Ford Mobile Charger will work with that adapter. The NEMA 14-50 plug that it comes with provides BOTH 240 V and 120 V compared to the NEMA 6-50 only providing 240 V as the missing prong is the neutral line used to get 120 V.

Last point is that the Ford Mobile Charger recommends a GFCI breaker which you might not have, but the Grizzl-E (and other EVSE chargers) don't need as they have an internal one.
 

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If you don’t have anything that requires the continued use of the 6-50 outlet, I would just swap it for a 14-50 outlet. Very easy to do.
 

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I have a 6-50 plug in the garage and a charger for it. As has been stated, ChargePoint, Grizzl-E and Clipper Creek and others can be ordered with that plug. If you want to use the mobile charger that comes with the MME, you'll need an adapter. Something similar to this:

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Most EVSEs don't use the neutral pin in a 14-50 receptacle. Therefore, such an adapter is OK.

However, be aware that such an adapter could easily damage the appliance and/or lead to a dangerous situation because the neutral pin in the 14-50 receptacle provided by the adapter will be floating.

I recommend getting an EVSE with available 6-50 plug.
 
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I'd instead recommend something like the Grizzl-E. I also just ordered mine. It's only $399 (granted it's still a lot), but if you order prior to the end of 2020, you can claim a 30% tax credit. Hard to beat for $279. That way you don't have to worry about plugging / unplugging the Ford Mobile Charger when you want to take it with you...

and I wouldn't be certain that the Ford Mobile Charger will work with that adapter. The NEMA 14-50 plug that it comes with provides BOTH 240 V and 120 V compared to the NEMA 6-50 only providing 240 V as the missing prong is the neutral line used to get 120 V.

Last point is that the Ford Mobile Charger recommends a GFCI breaker which you might not have, but the Grizzl-E (and other EVSE chargers) don't need as they have an internal one.
The price of the Grissl-E is very appealing. What do you lose compared to Juice or other more expensive chargers?
 

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If you don’t have anything that requires the continued use of the 6-50 outlet, I would just swap it for a 14-50 outlet. Very easy to do.
You would have to run an extra wire for the neutral.

If I have to choose between 6-50P/14-50R adapter and a 14-50 receptacle with floating neutral. I'd pick the adapter without hesitation. With an adapter, it's obvious to you and to future owner/resident/electrician of your home what's going on.
 

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The price of the Grissl-E is very appealing. What do you lose compared to Juice or other more expensive chargers?
It's more of a "dumb" EVSE. No wifi/fancy shenanigans, yet. Just a quality 40A EVSE. Since most newer EVs can do charge scheduling/check-in themselves, I don't see a reason for my EVSE to do the same.
 

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The price of the Grissl-E is very appealing. What do you lose compared to Juice or other more expensive chargers?
It doesn't have Wi-Fi capabilities, but to be honest, I don't care about any of that. I just want a reliable charger that powers my car. They're UL rated and designed to be affordable. And if you care about charge speeds, this allows 40 A charging rates compared to the Ford Mobile Charger's 32 A on the same outlet. Although I'll set mine to 32 A anyway as a slower charge rate is better for the battery and I don't need anything beyond that rate.

To be honest, I don't know why EV chargers are so expensive, they really don't do anything but provide safety monitoring of the charge session and are essentially an extension cord and a switch.
 

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You would have to run an extra wire for the neutral.

If I have to choose between 6-50P/14-50R adapter and a 14-50 receptacle with floating neutral. I'd pick the adapter right away. With an adapter, it's obvious to you and to future owner/resident/electrician of your home what's going on.
A NEMA 14-50 outlet with a 'floating neutral' would be a code violation. The neutral is there to allow for 120 V loads. So a load with that plug might expect to use 120 V which would result in improper operation.

For a more complete explanation if you're curious, see my response here (as well as a photo of a Grizzl-e installed two pages later): https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...aration-and-installing-charger.610/post-56290
 
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It doesn't have Wi-Fi capabilities, but to be honest, I don't care about any of that. I just want a reliable charger that powers my car. They're UL rated and designed to be affordable. And if you care about charge speeds, this allows 40 A charging rates compared to the Ford Mobile Charger's 32 A on the same outlet. Although I'll set mine to 32 A anyway as a slower charge rate is better for the battery and I don't need anything beyond that rate.

To be honest, I don't know why EV chargers are so expensive, they really don't do anything but provide safety monitoring of the charge session and are essentially an extension cord and a switch.
I'm new to Electric Vehicles. I assume the car will manage the charge rate and when to stop charging?
 



 









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