Can't deal with the bouncy ride anymore after two weeks with the Mach-E. What do I do?

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Try turning off one peddle drive. I noticed on the highway the car can feel bouncy if you are changing throttle alot. The weight shifts forward when regen breaking comes on and then back when you accel.
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Try turning off one peddle drive. I noticed on the highway the car can feel bouncy if you are changing throttle alot. The weight shifts forward when regen breaking comes on and then back when you accel.
We're describing an interaction between the road surface and harmonic responses from the vehicle body... It's not our driving styles causing this type of bounce.

After some more experience with feathering your foot pressure on the accelerator pedal, you will find that one pedal driving can be finely controlled and should be an extremely smooth experience without noticeable torque responses.
 

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I agree with @Cnote on how bad the suspension is. I find the GT very bouncy on highways speeds and stiff on small imperfections on city speeds. The suspension of the car feels just wrong when it comes to ride comfort. However handling at turns is decent and the car does not lean much.
p.s. I come from 4 years of driving Porsches with Air Suspensions and the difference in ride comfort is huge. Even my 4 year old commented how bouncy the GT is.

If I could confirm MagnaRide fixes the bounceness I will order a GTPE right away..
 

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If I could confirm MagnaRide fixes the bounceness I will order a GTPE right away..
If you're anywhere near me DM me and I'll take you for a drive. NorCal's a vast area :)
 


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I'm well aware, but this was something that was cheap and easy to try vs replacing the shocks (and it worked for someone else). With very limited options available I gave it a try. I still have the original springs but unless there are some aftermarket shocks finally available I'm not going to swap out for any more oem parts since aside from magnaride they will all still be bouncy to me.
This is why I’m a bit confused as to why you are pushing back against the shock suggestion.

Shocks are quicker and easier to install than springs typically (no spring compressor) just 2 bolts.

They’re also usually cheap.

So if “cheap and easy” is your goal…… shocks.

And most importantly…… they will probably be more likely to fix your issue.

Of course figuring out what aftermarket shocks will work……. Not sure.
 

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This is why I’m a bit confused as to why you are pushing back against the shock suggestion.

Shocks are quicker and easier to install than springs typically (no spring compressor) just 2 bolts.

They’re also usually cheap.

So if “cheap and easy” is your goal…… shocks.

And most importantly…… they will probably be more likely to fix your issue.

Of course figuring out what aftermarket shocks will work……. Not sure.
Im not pushing back. I simply started by trying the lowest cost option that worked for someone else and seemed to return the most bang for the buck. I didn't say anywhere that it's the last work I'll do. I was just trying to make things more bearable until other options are available.

Have you actually priced the shocks? Looked for aftermarket parts? I have and the OEM shocks are more expensive than the springs (2 springs around the cost of one shock price wise) and for now I can't find any aftermarket parts that I can be sure are compatible. I've also said that aside from magnaride which isn't an option, I don't think swapping oem shocks will make a big difference, do you? Even just a couple of posts above someone specifically mentions that the GT is still very bouncy. Which other shocks should I swap with?
 
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Im not pushing back. I simply started by trying the lowest cost option that worked for someone else and seemed to return the most bang for the buck. I didn't say anywhere that it's the last work I'll do. I was just trying to make things more bearable until other options are available.

Have you actually priced the shocks? Looked for aftermarket parts? I have and the OEM shocks are more expensive than the springs (2 springs around the cost of one shock price wise) and for now I can't find any aftermarket parts that I can be sure are compatible. I've also said that aside from magnaride which isn't an option, I don't think swapping oem shocks will make a big difference, do you? Even just a couple of posts above someone specifically mentions that the GT is still very bouncy. Which other shocks should I swap with?
I agree, oem shocks won’t do anything.

And OEM springs won’t fix it either if the springs aren’t the problem.

I’m just trying to offer possible solutions, but you keep pushing back on the shocks thing.

I’ll say it again: GT bouncy, GTPE not bouncy. The only difference is the shocks.

You say you aren’t pushing back, then give me a list of arguments against trying new shocks.

Where to start? Go to a suspension shop and see if you can try out some universal shocks that would fit.
 

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I felt this way too until I went on a road trip to Salt Lake, UT and noticed that the roads are so much better outside California. Very smooth indeed.
 

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I agree, oem shocks won’t do anything.

And OEM springs won’t fix it either if the springs aren’t the problem.

I’m just trying to offer possible solutions, but you keep pushing back on the shocks thing.

I’ll say it again: GT bouncy, GTPE not bouncy. The only difference is the shocks.

You say you aren’t pushing back, then give me a list of arguments against trying new shocks.

Where to start? Go to a suspension shop and see if you can try out some universal shocks that would fit.
You seem to think I haven't gone to shops and talked to them and been hunting for shocks even though I have already said I have been looking everywhere. I said I can't find non oem parts that fit. What are these amazing universal shocks I can try?

You can't seem to understand that I can't find anything other than oem shocks now and even you agree they won't work for me. Feel free to find me some aftermarket or universal shocks and I'll get right on it.
 
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Sorry to hear people are having this issue. That said, after reading this entire thread (though over a period of time so certainly might have forgotten parts) I still can’t figure out if the bounciness issue in non GTPEs:
  • Varies from car to car
  • Affects a minority or majority of drivers
  • Is subjective, with different people driving the exact same car reacting differently
  • Is influenced by one’s experience with other cars they’ve driven or currently drive
  • Is due to different road characteristics
  • Can change behavior over time
  • Depends on whether the car has an extended battery
  • Is modifiable, though some have suggested it can be after replacing certain components of the suspension
I didn’t notice it or at least nothing jumped out at me in a 20 min test drive and had started to read this thread so specifically looked for it (my wife was in the front and 2 kids in the back). We all found the ride comfortable, fortunately. Just hope that continues when I get my MME (sometime this Spring I hope).

Hang in there and I hope the various maneuvers you guys try will fix or at least lessen the problem!
 

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Sorry to hear people are having this issue. That said, after reading this entire thread (though over a period of time so certainly might have forgotten parts) I still can’t figure out if the bounciness issue in non GTPEs:
  • Varies from car to car
  • Affects a minority or majority of drivers
  • Is subjective, with different people driving the exact same car reacting differently
  • Is influenced by one’s experience with other cars they’ve driven or currently drive
  • Is due to different road characteristics
  • Can change behavior over time
  • Depends on whether the car has an extended battery
  • Is modifiable, though some have suggested it can be after replacing certain components of the suspension
I didn’t notice it or at least nothing jumped out at me in a 20 min test drive and had started to read this thread so specifically looked for it (my wife was in the front and 2 kids in the back). We all found the ride comfortable, fortunately. Just hope that continues when I get my MME (sometime this Spring I hope).

Hang in there and I hope the various maneuvers you guys try will fix or at least lessen the problem!
I read through your bulleted list. In my subjective opinion, I think all bullets are appropriate except for "can change behavior over time."

Okay yes, mine seems to have mellowed out a bit after the first 1,000 miles, but I think not by much and mostly I think it's just me knowing when to expect the yucky bounces and to set my mindset accordingly.
 

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I read through your bulleted list. In my subjective opinion, I think all bullets are appropriate except for "can change behavior over time."

Okay yes, mine seems to have mellowed out a bit after the first 1,000 miles, but I think not by much and mostly I think it's just me knowing when to expect the yucky bounces and to set my mindset accordingly.
I remember posts from some forum members who said it went away with time or miles. One said the bounce was gone after his car sat in his garage for several weeks, which doesn't make sense but that is what he reported.
 

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I remember posts from some forum members who said it went away with time or miles. One said the bounce was gone after his car sat in his garage for several weeks, which doesn't make sense but that is what he reported.
Yeah I was just reporting my personal experience here.
 

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You seem to think I haven't gone to shops and talked to them and been hunting for shocks even though I have already said I have been looking everywhere. I said I can't find non oem parts that fit. What are these amazing universal shocks I can try?

You can't seem to understand that I can't find anything other than oem shocks now and even you agree they won't work for me. Feel free to find me some aftermarket or universal shocks and I'll get right on it.
I have no clue what you have or haven’t done. I just don’t understand why it seems like you’re attacking me for suggesting possible solutions.

In answer to where to get “universal fit shocks,” the answer is any auto parts store. Summit has over 2,000 available:
https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/shocks-and-struts/universal/yes

As far as the exact length and type? Ask a suspension expert.

Maybe reach out to the sponsor on this page?https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/mach-e-lowering-spring-development.6353/

If he can develop new springs he should know what length shocks will work.
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