Ceramic Coating. To coat or not to coat?

Should I get ceramic coating on my Mach-E?


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Sure you can, if they want to listen and consider the products, reviews, and real-world tests and evidence.
I was referencing a few in this thread that aren't going to change their opinion. There are many that have tried it and love it. It's one of those things, like PPF, where owners that have invested in it love it, those that haven't say it's a waste.

With how easy and quick it is to apply the consumer grade sprays, there's no reason to use the older carnuba waxes. Even some of the pro grade 9H ceramics have easy flash times to work with (ie Tec580).

 

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I got mine professionally ceramic coated with GTECHNIQ Crystal Serum Ultra on day 3. They did all the prep steps: wash, clay, clean, etc. before applying the ceramic coat. It cost about $1500 but comes with a 9-year warranty and includes annual "check ups" where they essentially do a full detail wash and vacuum. That's worth at least $125 a pop around here, so I didn't think the price was too bad.

I briefly thought about doing it myself, but I watched the guys work on if for a while and I'm glad I didn't try it. When I mentioned doing it myself to the owner of the shop he said "You could pull your own tooth, too."

The final result was very ... shiny.

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I was referencing a few in this thread that aren't going to change their opinion.
Yes, I know. I agree completely with the comments you’ve made.

The Avalon King product was pretty easy to use by me and did a good job on our Polaris Ranger. I imagine many “higher end” near pro level would be similar. As for the spray products, I can’t imagine people wanting a paste wax as a matter of routine these days. Time to move on.
 
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Thanks everyone for the tips and keep them coming. My arrival date was supposed to be the 23rd (August) but now it’s September. I don’t understand how a vehicle that’s already shipped keeps getting delays. Did the run into traffic on the way?
 

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I did ceramic coating to mine in February for the first time ever and I’m so glad I did! It stays so clean and all I need to do is spray it to get it all clean. No sponge or other contact needed to get it clean. Even bird droppings fall off with ease. And even when it has a layer of dust it looks so shiny! So worth it!
 

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I had mine professionally done a few months after I picked it up. Had it professionally done in Montreal, using System X Diamond Ceramic product. It was around $800 in Montreal and I'm very happy with the results. Car stays clean and clear even in bad weather. My vote is its worth doing.
 

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I have a PPF install scheduled for next month and the installer will also add ceramic coating. I went with a less expensive option. He says it will still last a year
 
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I like how easy it sounds to keep your vehicle clean after ceramic coating. I added a question to my first post.

Sounds like I won’t need weekly visits to the brushed wash anymore.
 

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I plan to do my MME myself as soon as I get it from the dealer. I’ve instructed the dealer “no wash”. I bought a black F350 from the same dealer last year and decided to ceramic coat it myself. The dealer put a ton of scratches in it. I researched, then researched and then researched, for about 3 months. Bought a decent buffer and product. Spent a couple of weekends on it and it turned out awesome and still looks great 9 months later. Products used were Carpro. 2 coats of CQuartz UK3.0 and 1 coat GLISS. I was so impressed, I did my 43’ Fifth wheel. Took 3 months! I have a 2000 square foot climate controlled garage to do the work in which helps a lot.

Washing a coated vehicle is really strange if you have never done it. Theres no resistance when using a soapy mitt. Feels like you are washing it with motor oil. I use the 2 bucket method and even change water half way through. I was HIGHLY skeptical before but decided to try it. Glad I did. Nay sayers can SUCK IT!!!! Yes, when I did the 5th wheel my wife was convinced I was crazy!
 
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You guys do realize where those swirl marks come from right??

It comes from rubbing the paint (for any reason). Be that hand washing, or rubbing in "protective coatings" or otherwise.
My MME had more swirl marks on it straight from the factory with 10km on it than my old black SUV has with 60,000km taking it through a brush car-wash every month. Unless the dealer was washing it with steel wool instead of microfiber, I think it's a FORD issue. The MME paint was garbage on receipt. I had the detail shop do a paint correction and ceramic and now it looks magical. So nice, not a single swirl mark and the water just beads up on the whole car and runs off. I'm into 2nd month now with the ceramic and I still like it. We'll see how it holds up over the winter.
 

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Car stays clean and clear even in bad weather. My vote is its worth doing.
Yeah, this is what I love about the coatings. Normally after driving through the rain, you'll get water marks with the mineral deposits left behind, along with all the road dirt and grime. With a good coating, most of that just flows off as the water streaks and beads off at normal speeds.

When I get home, I use my EGO leaf blower to dry the vehicles and it stays clean (except the rear).
 

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I correct the damage done by people that have these sorts of mentalities. Perhaps they don't see the iron contamination in the paint from day 1 riding on the rail. Or see the contamination that is removed via clay bar, or seen the progress pictures and the color difference before and after. When you have literally no experience, you don't know what you don't know. It's disappointing when those folks believe they know what they are talking about and preach common sense as though they had some.

And yes I'm practically only using ceramic sprays now for my own cars. They are so easy to use and provide the durability I need to get me through the year with my typical biannual detail.

I'm interested in trying the Adam's, I've give that a go in the fall. I've been using the Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic and it's done as well or better than some of the big name guys.

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I'm using Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic coating right now but I'm not getting the stunning outcome you show! I used Chemical Guys stripper wash to remove the last coating from the car. From there, I used Chemical Guys water spot remover as I had water spots on the paint finish. I took that off with the Chemical Guys rapid remover and then dried the finish. Next I used a clay bar with Mequiars Detailer. Once the finish was polished I coated the car with the Turtle Wax Ceramic Hybrid coating. I'm sorry to say the final product looks nothing like yours does. If that's infinite Blue it looks a lot deeper and more blue than my car does. Great job!
 

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I'm using Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic coating right now but I'm not getting the stunning outcome you show! I used Chemical Guys stripper wash to remove the last coating from the car. From there, I used Chemical Guys water spot remover as I had water spots on the paint finish. I took that off with the Chemical Guys rapid remover and then dried the finish. Next I used a clay bar with Mequiars Detailer. Once the finish was polished I coated the car with the Turtle Wax Ceramic Hybrid coating. I'm sorry to say the final product looks nothing like yours does. If that's infinite Blue it looks a lot deeper and more blue than my car does. Great job!
Thank you! This is BMW's Phytonic Blue Metallic which is richer than Ford's Infinite Blue. The metallic flake give it a big pop in good lighting.

My process was Foam Cannon wash with Honey Dew, claybar using Honey Dew for lube. Polish with Jescar on a Flex 3401 and a MF pad.

IPA wipedown and 2 coats of Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray head to toe. Final clean MF wipedown to removal final solvents in spray.

Touchups with Honey Dew Foam wash, and Carpro Reload as a QD.
 

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What's the overall message here in literally all of those videos? It's that PHYSICAL CONTACT is where the majority of paint damage comes from. He's showing good procedures to MINIMIZE damage when hamd washing your vehicle. But you know what goes a step further than that.

Not touching the paint!

Again, you paid good money for your car, and you can do whatever you like to it. But common sense atill applies here and if you avoid the very thing that damages the paint, such as TOUCHING THE PAINT, then your obviously far better off for it.

With that said you WILL still get damage from driving the car, from flying debris, rocks etc.. but no magical coating in the world will prevent any of that, and all they do is provide a sacrificial layer that can then be buffed down to even out the surface of the paint. When you consider the ongoing costs of all these coatings, you end up paying more than you would to have the whole car repainted. Which begs the question... what did you actually accomplish here with any of it to begin with when ongoing maintenance literally exceeds the costs of repainting the entire vehicle?

I don't want to be rude, but there is a quote that comes to mind here that goes along the lines of "a fool is easily parted with his money", and i think that applies here.
Dude. I’ve “touched” my cars since I began driving in the early ‘90s. Tried all kinds of products. You never “touch” or rub a dusty/dirty car, but, you absolutely wash with the 2 bucket method or foam cannon (my preferred method) and utilize proper/clean sponges and drying towels. My cars never have swirls because I wash them this way and detail them frequently. And I always have a layer of protective coating over the paint whether wax, or now, hybrid ceramic spray coating. Yes, the $15.00 bottle of Turtle Wax hybrid ceramic coating actually works far better than the real ceramic guys would ever want you to
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And wtf with the repainted vehicle comment? Seriously? Don’t buy detailing products because you’ll spend the same $$$ over time as repainting your car? Did you seriously type that?

Your “advice” is beyond ridiculous.

It reminds me of the guys back in the days who would swear up and down that synthetic oil was bad for engines because of all kinds of BS reasons. It’s preposterous.
 

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Thank you! This is BMW's Phytonic Blue Metallic which is richer than Ford's Infinite Blue. The metallic flake give it a big pop in good lighting.

My process was Foam Cannon wash with Honey Dew, claybar using Honey Dew for lube. Polish with Jescar on a Flex 3401 and a MF pad.

IPA wipedown and 2 coats of Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray head to toe. Final clean MF wipedown to removal final solvents in spray.

Touchups with Honey Dew Foam wash, and Carpro Reload as a QD.
Thank you for detailed reply. I’m glad to hear it is a different paint color and also kind of amazed I didn’t pick up that the car wasn’t a Mach E. I still could try the isopropyl alcohol wipe down on all other areas of the car except the hood because that’s where I put the Turtle Wax Ceramic Hybrid last night to see how it would look so it’s too late for that part of the car.

 

 
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