ChargePoint Home Flex Level 2 charger in stock at SRP

[RonOinAZ]

I ordered on Sept 10 and don’t understand how I am getting a 21 and others like you ordered earlier are getting a 22. I think but not 100 percent sure that 11/29 week might be last of 21’s. They probably can change that if they want.

No, mine is still listed as a 2021 with a production week of 12/6. Of course, it also says "it's time to order" so the web site isn't bug-free. I placed a separate order for a 2022 because I doubt I'll be willing to buy a 2021 model for full MSRP in 2022.

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[kennethjk]

No, mine is still listed as a 2021 with a production week of 12/6. Of course, it also says "it's time to order" so the web site isn't bug-free. I placed a separate order for a 2022 because I doubt I'll be willing to buy a 2021 model for full MSRP in 2022.

Got it.

When I looked yesterday this page for me didn’t say anything about production week. I got that from the dealer And it didn’t have button lit for production in progress.

I tried going in to look at it right now and doesn’t seem to be working.

weird but not surprising.

 

[kennethjk]

The thought behind the 1 foot distance between the charger and the outlet, I believe, is that the charger and the outlet are at the same height and the 2 foot power cable is suspended between them. The electrician should install the NEMA 14-50 socket with the ground pin at the top.

3 months or more? You and me both. I've placed an order for a 2022 model as well because I'm not so sure I want to pay MSRP in 2022 for the prior year's model.

I read this on Juice box website

”NEMA 14-50 input cable is about 1.7 feet long. The ground prong is furthest away from the JuiceBox.” I just spoke to Juicebox and they said the cable is 2.5 feet not 1.7.

not sure if it really matters but it said ground plug is furthest away from juice box. From that I can tell that’s assuming outlet is below charger unit itself because the plug coming from the charger shows ground at bottom

 

[PhoenixGuy]

Got it.

When I looked yesterday this page for me didn’t say anything about production week. I got that from the dealer And it didn’t have button lit for production in progress.

I tried going in to look at it right now and doesn’t seem to be working.

weird but not surprising.

over the weekend it moved my production from 12/6/21 to 12/13/21, still with the '21 model I ordered in July. will check with my dealer to see about getting a '22 as I can wait.

 

[RonOinAZ]

over the weekend it moved my production from 12/6/21 to 12/13/21, still with the '21 model I ordered in July. I can't imagine they would automatically change to a '22...but may be worth checking into. Has anyone out there ordered a '22 and if so what is the production date?

My 2021 model production week remains at December 6. Once I became certain that my 2021 model wouldn't be delivered before late January 2022, I placed an order for a 2022 model, which the dealer accepted on October 4, 2021. So far the 2022 model hasn't been scheduled for production but the dealer said it has a priority code of 10. As far as I know, the only 2022 models that have been scheduled are the ones that Ford converted from 2021 orders and even those schedule dates have been moved from December 2021 to January 2022. That's what I've pieced together from this forum but it's very possible there are details I've missed.

 

[BMT1071]

My 2021 model production week remains at December 6. Once I became certain that my 2021 model wouldn't be delivered before late January 2022, I placed an order for a 2022 model, which the dealer accepted on October 4, 2021. So far the 2022 model hasn't been scheduled for production but the dealer said it has a priority code of 10. As far as I know, the only 2022 models that have been scheduled are the ones that Ford converted from 2021 orders and even those schedule dates have been moved from December 2021 to January 2022. That's what I've pieced together from this forum but it's very possible there are details I've missed.

I thought I read that a vehicle's model year had to be greater than or equal to the calendar year at the time of delivery. Don't quote me on this.

 

[RonOinAZ]

I thought I read that a vehicle's model year had to be greater than or equal to the calendar year at the time of delivery. Don't quote me on this.

I'm pretty sure that each model year is limited to just one New Year celebration during its run and that it's based on production dates rather than delivery dates. I welcome anybody more qualified to step in though.

 

[BMT1071]

I'm pretty sure that each model year is limited to just one New Year celebration during its run and that it's based on production dates rather than delivery dates. I welcome anybody more qualified to step in though.

A couple of months back the last scheduled week for 21 MY production was in November. Things have been known to change... ?

 

[PhoenixGuy]

My MME is scheduled for production next week!

Got my Chargepoint Home Flex (CPHF) on order from SRP, scheduled for this week. To verify for the CPHF:

• It comes with a NEMA 6-50
• The plug can be removed so it can be hardwired direct to a 50amp circuit; and this is the only way to get a full 50 amp from the charger
• The main reason to keep the outlet plug (and/or adapt to NEMA 14-50) is for convenience of using the outlet for other purposes
• Based on this, I do not require anything besides 50amp circuit and wiring from my circuit box to the CPHF...making sure it is installed within 15-20 feet where I will park the car for charging
• Any qualified electrician can install this circuit

Anything I am missing on this?

 

[RonOinAZ]

My MME is scheduled for production next week!

Got my Chargepoint Home Flex (CPHF) on order from SRP, scheduled for this week. To verify for the CPHF:

• It comes with a NEMA 6-50
• The plug can be removed so it can be hardwired direct to a 50amp circuit; and this is the only way to get a full 50 amp from the charger
• The main reason to keep the outlet plug (and/or adapt to NEMA 14-50) is for convenience of using the outlet for other purposes
• Based on this, I do not require anything besides 50amp circuit and wiring from my circuit box to the CPHF...making sure it is installed within 15-20 feet where I will park the car for charging
• Any qualified electrician can install this circuit

Anything I am missing on this?

The maximum current you will be able to pull from a 50 amp circuit is 80% of the circuit rating. In other words, on a 50 amp circuit, you should not exceed a 40 amp load. On a 60 amp circuit, it should not exceed 48 amps. So if you have a 50 amp circuit, you might as well leave the NEMA 6-50 plug on because you'll need to limit the charger system's draw to 40 amps.

 

[rohankumar]

The maximum current you will be able to pull from a 50 amp circuit is 80% of the circuit rating. In other words, on a 50 amp circuit, you should not exceed a 40 amp load. On a 60 amp circuit, it should not exceed 48 amps. So if you have a 50 amp circuit, you might as well leave the NEMA 6-50 plug on because you'll need to limit the charger system's draw to 40 amps.

Can someone confirm which is the right ChargePoint for the MME? Is it the one that comes with the NEMA 6-50 A plug or the 14-50A plug?

 

[BMT1071]

Can someone confirm which is the right ChargePoint for the MME? Is it the one that comes with the NEMA 6-50 A plug or the 14-50A plug?

Either one is fine. Those are the plugs that go into the receptacle in your house/garage/etc. Just make sure that your house receptacle matches the plug you order on your CPHF.

 

[rohankumar]

Either one is fine. Those are the plugs that go into the receptacle in your house/garage/etc. Just make sure that your house receptacle matches the plug you order on your CPHF.

Makes sense, either would have worked since I just have a line drawn out to my garage with a EV jukebox marking. The electrician will be able to mount the right one to match the 14-50 A Chargepoint HomeFlex I just bought.

 

[Cjpayne]

I had the same concern. Never seen a CP fail but I am sure it happens from time to time. Nothing is perfect of course. If mine fails and I need the FoMoCo mobile unit then I will put a 14-50 outlet in the Jbox and plug in. For those that hire an electrician to hardwire in then they could probably talk them into installing a back up outlet just in case. I think it is legal to have multiple outlets on a single circuit.....not sure about that though. Sounds reasonable to me.

The benefit of having the CP hard wired is you can drive about 180 miles in a day and still be able to charge in the 6 hour window for super off peak rates. If using a 32A unit then you can only drive about 120 miles per day and still charge using the cheapest summertime rates. I encounter this situation often so having the ability to charge faster to stay inside the window is convenient.

However, for me it is all a moot point anyway because I really don't like charging at 48A and prefer a 32A rate. So, during the summer, I need to make sure I arrive at home with at least 50% charge so the car will cool the battery but NOT charge until 11:00 pm. I set my charge window from 11pm to 8 am which is about 50% of the battery capacity so I can arrive at home with 50% and the car will cool the battery while waiting until 11 pm to charge and stop at 90% according to my setting. If it runs past 5 am then the morning rate is only 1.5 cents higher so not much impact to my electric bill. The super high rates are 2 pm to 8 pm so I avoid charging during those times as much as possible.

Not sure if this makes any sense but it is my method.

My electrician said multiple outlets on a single line must be switched in such a manner the it is not possible for both outlets to have current at the same time. I hardwired my CPHF and wanted an outlet for the Ford provided charger. Was not worth the added expense to me.

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