Charging on a 125/250v receptacle

[adamtstipp]

Grizzl-E is a 240V EVSE. It will not power on with only 120 V.

You could use a 14-50 Grizzl-E at work. It can be used free standing like the mobile charger. Then you can keep the Ford charger at home.

It's not as portable though.

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[generaltso]

A 40 amp EVSE, such as the SplitVolt, will only deliver 32 amps of power to the car. Unless I am wrong, the Ford mobile unit that comes with the MME is also a 40 amp EVSE [that delivers 32 amps/7.2kw] to the car. Both the Ford supplied EVSE and the SpitVolt will allow the car to charge at the same rate.

Yes, you are wrong.

 

[TruWrecks]

It's not as portable though.

It doesn't have to be chassis grounded because the outlet provides ground. Mine is mounted to a wood wall and can be moved to use elsewhere at any 14-50 plug. "portable" is just a label unless it needs a chassis ground.

 

[adamtstipp]

Ah, I see. That makes more sense.

Honestly, if you only live 2 miles from work and can charge there regularly, you're really not even going to need to charge nightly when getting home from work. I would start off just charging at work using your Ford Mobile Charger and see how that goes for a while. Unless you drive a lot of other miles, you'll probably find you only need to charge at work like once or twice a week. And not even mess with home charging. Shouldn't even need a 2nd charger.

That's not totally unlike my situation. I'm retired, so my driving miles around home are pretty low (maybe 100 miles/week avg). Any day I drop below 50%, I plug in that night and charge up to 90%. Only have to do it about once a week.

I do take the kids to school and sports practices and games throughout the week. So I'll probably average 25 miles on a normal day and 80 on days with games.

I guess I was just trying to take advantage of the $250 rebate and tax credit. I ordered a 22, so won't get it until next year, but if I bought a mobile charger before the end of the year for $350 or less it would basically be free. I figured I should take advantage of that.

Obviously best case would be a 14-50 outlet at home and a nice wall mounted charger, but I'm not sure if I would use it enough to spend the extra money.

 

[generaltso]

I guess I was just trying to take advantage of the $250 rebate and tax credit. I ordered a 22, so won't get it until next year, but if I bought a mobile charger before the end of the year for $350 or less it would basically be free. I figured I should take advantage of that.

If you don't care about UL listing, I've had great luck with this portable EVSE. It has adjustable amperage up to 40A, supports 240V and 120V, and has a great color screen on it that gives you all your charging details.

Amazon.com: Couplago ,40 AMP (9.6 KW)- Dual Voltage -240V/120V, EV Charging Station - Level 2- EVSE- Charger for Electric Vehicles, You Set The AMPS- 40 AMP, 24 AMP or 12 AMP - 14-50R to 5-15P /120V Adapter : Automotive

 

[dbsb3233]

I do take the kids to school and sports practices and games throughout the week. So I'll probably average 25 miles on a normal day and 80 on days with games.

I guess I was just trying to take advantage of the $250 rebate and tax credit. I ordered a 22, so won't get it until next year, but if I bought a mobile charger before the end of the year for $350 or less it would basically be free. I figured I should take advantage of that.

Obviously best case would be a 14-50 outlet at home and a nice wall mounted charger, but I'm not sure if I would use it enough to spend the extra money.

Ah, more info. Yeah, if you have the chance to get a free 2nd charger this year only, it's a shame to not get it. Your original plan may be as good as any then. Although I wouldn't be too concerned about whether it's a 40A vs 32A. Even with that driving pattern, 32A at work is probably sufficient. In which case the better Ford charger is fine for that use.

You may still find you won't need to 120V charge often at home, but hard to say (adds ~30 miles overnight). If you do, using the cheap China charger on 120V at home might make a little more sense. Lower power, and you won't be packing it up all the time. While the non UL-Listed China chargers are probably fine in most cases, they may be more prone to wear and tear.

 

[prdude]

Thanks for the info. I will check the circuit breaker. My plan was to only charge at 120v at home and not get a new outlet installed plus cost of the charger. I have a $250 rebate from electric co-op and the 30% tax credit, but I figured 120v at home and 240v at work (2 miles from my house) would be plenty and I could get an extra mobile charger for free after the credit and rebate. I just didn’t want to have to unplug and pack up the Ford charger every day. I could leave it at home. I would have to pay an extra $300-$500 for the 14-50 outlet and a wall mounted charger and it probably wouldn’t be needed as I could charge level 2 at work any time I needed.
I will look into better quality mobile units. I wish Ford sold their mobile charger instead of just the wall mounted one.

This is basically what I am doing. My employer has level 2 chargers that I use at the office, and then I charge on 115V with the Ford-provided mobile charger at home, just to top off the HVB or sometimes precondition. I'll eventually get 240V service run out to my detached garage, but it's not a priority at this time ... and I need to find a less-expensive solution than the $5k that has been quoted to me previously!

 

[adamtstipp]

Ah, more info. Yeah, if you have the chance to get a free 2nd charger this year only, it's a shame to not get it. Your original plan may be as good as any then. Although I wouldn't be too concerned about whether it's a 40A vs 32A. Even with that driving pattern, 32A at work is probably sufficient. In which case the better Ford charger is fine for that use.

You may still find you won't need to 120V charge often at home, but hard to say (adds ~30 miles overnight). If you do, using the cheap China charger on 120V at home might make a little more sense. Lower power, and you won't be packing it up all the time. While the non UL-Listed China chargers are probably fine in most cases, they may be more prone to wear and tear.

Yeah, I had thought that, but also thinking that if it's more cheaply made it may be more likely to cause a fire and I wouldn't want that sitting in my garage full time. Why can't Ford just sell their mobile charger separately?

 

[generaltso]

Why can't Ford just sell their mobile charger separately?

They do. It's just not worth the price.

 

[adamtstipp]

Looks like this may be the best option for a high quality portable charger at work.

3 year warranty, not China made. ETL listed.

https://store.clippercreek.com/level2/level2-20-to-32/amazing-e-fast-32-14-50

I can leave it in the car and plug in at work and then leave the Ford charger plugged in to 120v at home.

 

[BMT1071]

Looks like this may be the best option for a high quality portable charger at work.

3 year warranty, not China made. ETL listed.

https://store.clippercreek.com/level2/level2-20-to-32/amazing-e-fast-32-14-50

I can leave it in the car and plug in at work and then leave the Ford charger plugged in to 120v at home.

Clipper Creek is generally regarded as a high quality manufacturer. I don't think you can go wrong with that EVSE.

 

[generaltso]

Looks like this may be the best option for a high quality portable charger at work.

3 year warranty, not China made. ETL listed.

https://store.clippercreek.com/level2/level2-20-to-32/amazing-e-fast-32-14-50

I can leave it in the car and plug in at work and then leave the Ford charger plugged in to 120v at home.

Tom gave it a good review.

 

[my2ndstang]

I use the ford portable charger at home and charge the car probably twice a week. Do you guys leave the portable charger plugged into the outlet all the time? Or do you unplug the portable charger whenever you are not charging?

 

[BMT1071]

I use the ford portable charger at home and charge the car probably twice a week. Do you guys leave the portable charger plugged into the outlet all the time? Or do you unplug the portable charger whenever you are not charging?

The 14-50 outlets are not designed for a high number of connect/disconnect cycles. I would only unplug it if I were taking it with me on a trip.

 

[Woeo]

Yes, you are wrong.

Digging a little bit...yes I was wrong...but not about the Ford provided EVSE. Ford provides a 40 amp EVSE that will deliver 80% of that current, 32 amps, to the car.....

https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...lic-charging/what-is-the-ford-mobile-charger/

The linked SplitVolt 40 amp charger does not follow EVSE naming convention. It delivers 40 amps to the car...but requires a 50 amp circuit to do so. Other manufactures would call it a 50 amp EVSE. My mistake was to assume SplitVolt followed convention when naming its units.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JXR7HGN/ref=emc_b_5_i?th=1

See for an example of conventional EVSE naming nomenclature this 40 amp Clipper Creek that will also deliver 32 amps to the car.

https://store.clippercreek.com/leve...-EVSE-Charging-Station-25-ft-cable-NEMA-14-50

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