Completely replacing the B&O 10 speaker system in Mach-E. My guide.

[ElectrikPony]

*** Disclaimer, not all pictures are my own intellectual property. ***

This thread will be to highlight the complete replacement of the B&O 10 speaker system. It will be done in steps as time allows so you may want to subscribe for updates.

the initial plunge was over Christmas. The pac-audio amp4-fd31 is the first piece of equipment. To my knowledge I will be the very first person to install this on a 22 Mach-e. It will replace the factory b&0 amp.

Factory a2b audio interface:

https://catalog.pac-audio.com/catalog/amppro-amplifier-interfaces/ap4-fd31
speakers - under development

Amps - under development

Dsp - under development

Where did the inspiration for the B&O system come from? It was “borrowed” from a 25k car in Europe. The Ford Kuga mark III, or for those in the USA the 2020+ ford escape.

Mach-E speakers.

25mm fabric textile tweeters. Two of these exist close to the door on the drivers and

Front door speakers:

6.5 paper coke midbass.

 

[pouyafrankie]

Tuned in for this

 

[mkhuffman]

Very cool! Sounds like a fun project. I am interested to see if you are happy with the results in the end. I think the stock system sounds really good, but of course it can be improved with time and money.

Good luck!

 

[SoundsGoodStereo]

Any chance you can remove the subwoofer from the enclosure and snap a photo of the plug Much appreciated

 

[breeves002]

Where did the inspiration for the B&O system come from? It was “borrowed” from a 25k car in Europe. The Ford Kuga mark III, or for those in the USA the 2020+ Escape.

Ahhh this is why my MME had the exact same subwoofer rattle at the exact same frequency as my 2020 escape! Though my escape was like $38k lol.

 

[Space Ghost GT]

Agree the B&O system is badge recognition only. The hardware is pretty underwhelming and sound reproduction is barely acceptable. Reminds me of the terrible HK systems in 2000’s bmw’s. Ohh this should sound great, nope. I wonder if there are any thiele small parameters for the drivers. The transducers on the mid range drivers are laughably small. The Fs numbers have to be depressing.

 

[ElectrikPony]

Any chance you can remove the subwoofer from the enclosure and snap a photo of the plug Much appreciated

is this truly Don of sounds good stereo? I’ve admired your f-series high-end plug and play solutions.

Are you going to setup tooling, forms and molds for Mach-e stereo upgrades now?

I had not planed To remove the subwoofer from the enclosure. Why would you want to do that? There is a 3 inch pigtail on the subwoofer enclosure and that Plugs right into the factory subwoofer output.

 

[mkhuffman]

Any chance you can remove the subwoofer from the enclosure and snap a photo of the plug Much appreciated

I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, but @markboris posted these pictures a while ago:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...-automotive-audio-bus-sync3.16470/post-396264

 

[mkhuffman]

Any chance you can remove the subwoofer from the enclosure and snap a photo of the plug Much appreciated

Here is another thread from Mark that might be helpful:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/can-someone-explain-this-odd-subwoofer-design.5409/

 

[ElectrikPony]

Good news! I have the AP4-FD31 in my hands! It took 7 months!

 

[SoundsGoodStereo]

is this truly Don of sounds good stereo? I’ve admired your f-series high-end plug and play solutions.

Are you going to setup tooling, forms and molds for Mach-e stereo upgrades now?

I had not planed To remove the subwoofer from the enclosure. Why would you want to do that? There is a 3 inch pigtail on the subwoofer enclosure and that Plugs right into the factory subwoofer output.

Yes, it's me. Thanks for following along on our journey on the F-Series platforms. We had a customer ask about upgrading the bass in one of these and trying to gather data on what the factory system entails.


We make a harness that plugs in st the subwoofer and provides a plug-and-play solution to feed an amplifier. I have not found a photo of the sub out of the enclosure on the Mach E, so I figured this thread would be a good one to ask

I'm not sure how far we will go with the Mach E, it all depends on the demand for the products and our months of R&D will pay off.

 

[SoundsGoodStereo]

Also, after you remove the subwoofer, you are left with this. If this exits out of the vehicle, we need to create a plate to cover this. We have one for the new F-150, just not sure if it's the same size. If it does go outside and you give us measurements, we can send you a plate to cover this for your help.

 

[mkhuffman]

I agree with you. I have the 6-speaker system in the CA RT1 and I am very happy with it. My passengers have praised it too. I mainly play concertos and jazz (like Brubeck and Monk). However, it may not produce enough decibels to satisfy rap/hiphop and "earth dog" heavy metal listeners.

Adding a good subwoofer fixes all the shortcomings, IMO. But I am still interested to see how this progresses and the final results.

 

[dmastro]

Being a curious soul, I'll follow along with this. However, the stock system can drown out ambient road and wind noise, so it's good enough for me.

 

[DR.J56]

Back in my younger days I put a LOT of money into high end systems. It was like a fast car, always wanted more. Till one night someone wanted it more. I never got back into it but will always be curious.