Delivery of "stock" models

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They're planning on 7 to 10 thousand cars built this year according to this post:



That should include a bit more than 2,000 FCTP cars though. So maybe 5,000 to 8,000 current customer cars. Offhand I'd suspect you get your car very early next year or maybe even this year.
I may be wrong, but I understood that the dealer FCTP cars start production later this month, prior to the start of customer cars in October. And I also believe the estimate of 7000-10000 by year end is for customer cars.

1000 cars a week, starting October 26... Gives 9000 before Christmas...
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I may be wrong, but I understood that the dealer FCTP cars start production later this month, prior to the start of customer cars in October. And I also believe the estimate of 7000-10000 by year end is for customer cars.

1000 cars a week, starting October 26... Gives 9000 before Christmas...
*shrug* could be. But the actual quote was, " Depending on supply and not having no issues product output for this year between 7,000 to 10,000 units made." No mention of excluding FCTP cars from the count.
 

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My dealer said my car might not be built until February so I’m taking they don’t know much. I’m a Premium top 6000 res #
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They're planning on 7 to 10 thousand cars built this year according to this post:



That should include a bit more than 2,000 FCTP cars though. So maybe 5,000 to 8,000 current customer cars. Offhand I'd suspect you get your car very early next year or maybe even this year.
I’ll bet it’s this year. Reservations started at 4,000, 35% off reservations are GTs, another 15% FEs. Then there are the EU reservations, although those were lots during first night. I’m betting that all FEs and first night Premiums get delivered in 2020.
 


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They're planning on 7 to 10 thousand cars built this year according to this post:



That should include a bit more than 2,000 FCTP cars though. So maybe 5,000 to 8,000 current customer cars. Offhand I'd suspect you get your car very early next year or maybe even this year.
But customer order numbers start in the mid 4000s so wouldn’t that mean potentially up to customer order numbers pushing the 11000 mark?
 

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So by retail, I assume that means the customer sees a stock unit on the lot and orders it, they can expect it spring of next year. Seems about right given they probably will not be able to order until December or January, and also will not have a reservation to bump to the start of a production run.
If the 80,000 orders number is correct, in-stock lot inventory may not be until spring of 2022 instead of 2021.

With one exception... the double orders that some of us have where the dealer and buyer agree to keep one open till the last minute (presumably leaving them a car to sell). But that should only be a few.
 

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I’ll bet it’s this year. Reservations started at 4,000, 35% off reservations are GTs, another 15% FEs. Then there are the EU reservations, although those were lots during first night. I’m betting that all FEs and first night Premiums get delivered in 2020.
I’m sending Ford the bill for my ulcer medication until I receive a confirmation of yay or nay on my 9600 order number MME making it to me before 2021. ?
 

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But customer order numbers start in the mid 4000s so wouldn’t that mean potentially up to customer order numbers pushing the 11000 mark?
Yes on the high end. Let's not forget the 2000 (or so) FCTP vehicles in that count. So potentially 5 to 8 thousand vehicles for customers as a target. So up to those in the 8000 rez area on the low end of the target. Some people are going to have their cars built too close to the year's end to actually receive it before New Years'.

And if Ford misses the target? Probably won't happen, but that will push back more deliveries into 2021.
 

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If the 80,000 orders number is correct, in-stock lot inventory may not be until spring of 2022 instead of 2021.

With one exception... the double orders that some of us have where the dealer and buyer agree to keep one open till the last minute (presumably leaving them a car to sell). But that should only be a few.
A bit sooner I'd bet in that scenario. Some folks won't wait until 2022 for an MME. Not likely to be several months sooner though if that's the case.
 

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A bit sooner I'd bet in that scenario. Some folks won't wait until 2022 for an MME. Not likely to be several months sooner though if that's the case.
Perhaps. But remember that online orders will (presumably) keep rolling in every month too. Unless Ford stops that process at some point. But if they keep it going, it's possible online orders alone could stay ahead of production limits for, well, years.
 

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Perhaps. But remember that online orders will (presumably) keep rolling in every month too. Unless Ford stops that process at some point. But if they keep it going, it's possible online orders alone could stay ahead of production limits for, well, years.
Good point. I seem to have forgotten there are others still interested. ;)

I doubt the orders so far will roll into 2022, but if they do, it’ll be interesting to see if cancellations exceed new orders.
 

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There is some... "creative wording" on the presentation of orders/reservations/sales. I'm sure there could be a debate on the proper wording and amount of communication we deserve...

That being said, there will likely be "stock" units (besides the demo units) delivered to dealers in 2021 and no, there won't be people ordering a 2021 vehicle that gets delivered in 2022.

I may be wrong, it happened once, but we'll have to wait until 2022 to see if happens again.
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