Disappointed with my MME after 1 year

[Sunburned]

I have many of the same complaints as the OP, plus more. If my wife didn't like the car so much, I'd bite the bullet and sell it, depreciation be damned.

- Cannot permanently turn off auto-emergency braking. Used to be able to, not anymore.
- Gauge cluster looks stupid and isn't configurable at all. I have a car graphic in the middle of my dashboard that shows me nothing because I'm not always using adaptive cruise, never use lane keeping, and have following distance off. It doesn't even show me the clock or outside temperature, two pieces of data I want to see the most behind my speed.
- My speed-adjusted volume has never worked either.
- 15 inch screen but I can't see the radio and navigation at the same time.
- Non configurable drive modes. Every other Ford Performance vehicle has had a custom drive mode, or at least the ability to adjust the suspension, steering, and throttle response separately. Can't do this, even with magneride. I want unbridle mode with soft suspension, should be insanely simple to code in.
- Selling with summer tires that 'can't be driven below 45*'. I purchased my car in December, I guess the dealer should have told me I couldn't drive home without swapping the tires...
- And of course the endless complaints with the power delivery at higher speeds.

2023 GTPE here and magneride still feels hard AF imo.

Yup, the suspension is terrible. Way too stiff, even in the softest mode. I was so excited to get magneride because I've heard so many good things about it, but it just isn't good on this car. I've owned many cars with modded suspension, this one is similar to the time I put coilovers on my Integra and got springs that were way too stiff.

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[Dysan911]

Yup, the suspension is terrible. Way too stiff, even in the softest mode. I was so excited to get magneride because I've heard so many good things about it, but it just isn't good on this car. I've owned many cars with modded suspension, this one is similar to the time I put coilovers on my Integra and got springs that were way too stiff.

Isn't that funny though. Some will praise Magnaride as the best thing ever and others seem unimpressed. Maybe it depends on the comparison. If your first and only experience with the MME is a Premium, select or GT w/out Magnaride and you get to test drive or own a newer MME with it. Perhaps that is where folks mention it's awesome but if you came from a different vehicle entirely and got right into a Magnaride equipped MME. Maybe it's not so great.

I do agree the lack of user customized settings seems really short-sighted. I don't think anyone has even gotten Forscan to solve this.

 

[Snakebitten]

Nothing is more subjective than suspension.
And personal preferences for "ride" varies equally.

 

[Sawdusty]

2015 Chevy

You didn't mention model.

So a bit snarky sounding I know, but if the Chevy operated perfectly "100% of the time", why would you not continue to purchase their product?

And I doubt seriously anything Chevy (or Ford) built in 2015 even comes close to the amount of technology, electronics, lines of software code,.......

It was an Impala LTZ. I didn't want to purchase another Chevy for a couple reasons; one being they didn't have an EV I was interested in, another being I like to bounce around car manufacturers. And you're right, there's way more tech in the MME than in the Chevy, but if Chevy could get the basics to work the right way, why can't Ford get the same things to work properly? They had almost a decade more time to fine tune the basics.

 

[Sawdusty]

I have an appointment at my local dealer next week for a warranty issue- windshield wiper motor- so I intend to ask them to look into a number of the issues I noted in my original post. We'll see how that works out.

 

[vvelocityy]

an issue popping up more frequently for me after two years is the car fails to detect paak while i’m already in the car. or when i open passenger opens and closes door, the car will honk at me saying no key is detected…

other shit i’ve just accepted like

• creaky brakes every day
• bumpy ride
• carplay but no sound, requires reconnecting
• sun visor DOESNT GO FAR ENOUGH. probably the most vertical visor i’ve ever seen
• blue cruise jerks when slowing down
• center console too far back so not much arm support
• door controls, why do they slope up so much. also terrible arm/wrist support.
• touch lock on pillars almost always never work. holding down the two number lock is more reliable
• headlights should be off when turning on climate remotely.
• volume increments don’t seem to be consistent. like 4 could be too quiet and 5 could be too loud.
• audible volume always needs to be around 9-12 to be equivalent to spotify at 4-6.
• public charger (like evgo and chargepoint… EA has been fine so far) gets stuck sometimes. requires turning car on and off again, sometimes several times, to get it to release

 

[Xanasazi]

Isn't that funny though. Some will praise Magnaride as the best thing ever and others seem unimpressed. Maybe it depends on the comparison. If your first and only experience with the MME is a Premium, select or GT w/out Magnaride and you get to test drive or own a newer MME with it. Perhaps that is where folks mention it's awesome but if you came from a different vehicle entirely and got right into a Magnaride equipped MME. Maybe it's not so great.

I do agree the lack of user customized settings seems really short-sighted. I don't think anyone has even gotten Forscan to solve this.

I think you're on to something. We came from a 2016 camry to the 2023 gtpe and I never even complained about the camry suspension. Everything on the road is noticeable in the mach e.

 

[MonkeyNutz]

Coming from both a Model Y and. Model 3, don't expect that the ride will be better. The Model 3 suspension is hard and not forgiving. It's tuned like a sports sedan. The Model Y was better than the M3 but not better than my 2024 Mach-E. I did hear that Ford made suspension improvements over the years but please don't expect a great ride in a Tesla.

I've owned a 2014 Model S, 2016 Model X and currently own a 2020 Model Y. The ride quality on all of those Teslas has been horrible. Tesla has improved the suspension and ride quality of their cars over the years. The biggest improvement being the 2019 upgrades to the Model S/X vehicles. The Model Y rides noticeably better on 18" wheels with tires allowing for a bit more sidewall profile -- this is normal. But they all ride very stiff. They're tuned to perform at a track and on well-maintained roads.

The Mach-E definitely rides nicer than our 2020 Model Y -- or at least the 2024 Mach-E we have driven does so. But it is still a stiff ride with similar traits. The Mach-E GT offers the MagnaRide suspension with some additional ride modes and the magnetic damping system to help smooth things out. But it's a lot of extra money to pay for some features that many people won't notice or benefit from. Even with that, it's still a stiff, performance-tuned ride.

Tesla has optimized a few suspension aspects since our early 2020 debut model Y and it looks like the upcoming 2025 "Juniper / Opal" model Y has some more improvements. Having test-driven a 2024 Model Y, we chose the Mach-E and just placed an order for a '25 last week. It has comparable ride quality to the Mach-E, but there are quite a few quirks and "features" I'm not a fan of. So we're taking a break from Tesla for the time being.

One comment on build quality... Tesla gets a lot of bad PR for this. And they should in all those cases where people show their issues. But most Teslas are actually just fine. All three I've owned had absolutely zero build issues and have been the most reliable, trouble-free cars I've ever owned. Ford also has their share of quality issues, but most of the vehicles are good. I've bought hundreds of Ford trucks over the years for our business fleet and have owned many Fords personally. It's been a mixed bag, but most all have been rather good.

I currently own an F-150 Lightning, so know what we're getting into with a Ford EV. I've had the Lightning for 2 years, it's mostly been great. Except I can't seem to get my heated steering wheel module installed even though it's a CSP item and I have a persistent squeak/rattle on the front passenger a-pillar area, which is also a known issue that plagues a lot of these trucks. I can fix it temporarily with some teflon tape... But other than that, all good at 30K miles in...

 

[dbsb3233]

Nothing is more subjective than suspension.
And personal preferences for "ride" varies equally.

True, ride quality and preference are subjective.

What's not subjective though is the fact that the MME is a 4-door, AWD-capable, family-size, crossover SUV. That IMO should have a base suspension that matches that vehicle type & functionality.

If I bought a sport coup, I'd expect a tight suspension. But I didn't, I bought a crossover SUV that turned out to have a mis-matched suspension. That's what disappoints me.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

True, ride quality and preference are subjective.

What's not subjective though is the fact that the MME is a 4-door, AWD-capable, family-size, crossover SUV. That IMO should have a base suspension that matches that vehicle type & functionality.

If I bought a sport coup, I'd expect a tight suspension. But I didn't, I bought a crossover SUV that turned out to have a mis-matched suspension. That's what disappoints me.

Your first sentence is right on the mark Tim. Proof? I personally disagree with the rest.

 

[Sikkun]

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[Electric Goat]

True, ride quality and preference are subjective.

What's not subjective though is the fact that the MME is a 4-door, AWD-capable, family-size, crossover SUV. That IMO should have a base suspension that matches that vehicle type & functionality.

If I bought a sport coup, I'd expect a tight suspension. But I didn't, I bought a crossover SUV that turned out to have a mis-matched suspension. That's what disappoints me.

Imo, The benchmark for the Mach-E should be the Lamborghini Urus...not your typical family SUV.

These two vehicles are already more similar in usable performance than not.

The 2024+ MME GTs would be an absolute beast if Ford added rear wheel steering as an option to the GT

 

[HuntingPudel]

an issue popping up more frequently for me after two years is the car fails to detect paak while i’m already in the car. or when i open passenger opens and closes door, the car will honk at me saying no key is detected…

other shit i’ve just accepted like

• creaky brakes every day
• bumpy ride
• carplay but no sound, requires reconnecting
• sun visor DOESNT GO FAR ENOUGH. probably the most vertical visor i’ve ever seen
• blue cruise jerks when slowing down
• center console too far back so not much arm support
• door controls, why do they slope up so much. also terrible arm/wrist support.
• touch lock on pillars almost always never work. holding down the two number lock is more reliable
• headlights should be off when turning on climate remotely.
• volume increments don’t seem to be consistent. like 4 could be too quiet and 5 could be too loud.
• audible volume always needs to be around 9-12 to be equivalent to spotify at 4-6.
• public charger (like evgo and chargepoint… EA has been fine so far) gets stuck sometimes. requires turning car on and off again, sometimes several times, to get it to release

I have experienced maybe three PaaK issues with my 2021 (2 of the 3 caused by a Ford support rep when he insisted that I delete my PaaK even though I repeatedly told him that I didn’t have a physical key), and one on my 2024. Perhaps there is a BT issue at hand?

I have not experienced the first 4 bullet points (5 if you don’t discount the fact that I do not use BC so I have not had an opportunity to experience it). For the next two, when driving your arms should not be encumbered by an armrest being in the way as that would interfere with the act of steering the vehicle. I rarely use external means of locking the doors since it’s ingrained habit to lock using the button on the door panel, so not much opportunity for a failure there. No opinion on 9 and 10 since they seem subjective. 11 seems like an app or phone issue more than an issue with the car since BT standards allow for source volume control. No experience with 12 since I have never DCFC’d at CP or EVgo but since EA seems to release OK, sounds more like a protocol problem with the chargers than with the car. If it is a car issue, you might want to make sure that all powertrain and charging software is fully updated.

 

[MME Farmer]

I have a 2021 GTPE that I bought new 3 years ago. I guess I am lucky because I love it. The only trouble I have is the sound/ speed doesn’t work. I did have the contacted problem and it was replaced in two days and that the only time my mme has been in the dealership other than the annual maintenance. What a terrific car. I look forward to driving it every day. Better luck on what you try next when your lease is up.

I have the same car as you and the ride is very good thanks to the magneride giving you a softer ride in whisper mode.. Mine has been in shop twice both for HVJBJ replacement and was done quickly. Very enjoyable and fun car, paak has worked quite well, use all the time and the cabin is quiet enough the volume deal isn't a concern of mine. It's not perfect but close, and has a few bugs now and then but for a first year model I think it has done exceptionally well. Just my 3 cents (inflation)

 

[Norcolboulder]

I see a lot of love on these boards for the MME, but I don’t think I’ve seen many posts like mine. I don’t know if I just got a clunker or if my experience is the rare outlier, but I’m really disappointed with my MME. There’s actually a lot I like about it but the things I dislike are making me regret getting it, because they’re all things that I’ve had in other cars that worked as they should, all the time. With the MME, there are issues with the tech but they’re intermittent, so it’s not as if I can bring it to the dealer and get them fixed.

I leased the car in December 2023 so I’ve had it one year, two left in the lease term. I am kind of looking forward to the end of the term so I can unload it and move on to something more reliable. I update over WiFi when it’s sitting in my driveway and the software is up to date, so I don’t think that’s the issue. Here are some of the problems I’m experiencing, and I’d be curious to know if anyone else also has these issues.

• Auto “walkaway” door lock- this works most of the time but maybe 1 time out of 20 it doesn’t. For example, I park in the same spot at work each day and I usually hear the lock/chirp when I’m almost out of the parking lot, but every now and then, it hasn’t chirped by the time I get to the door of the building. I have to walk partway back to the car to lock the doors with the remote. I have “lock/chirp” anxiety.
• Rain-sensitive wipers- often the wipers will be wiping when the windshield appears to be completely dry. Other times, it’s actively raining and they don’t wipe. I have the auto wiping set correctly on the stalk, and sometimes it works properly, but about half the time it doesn’t.
• Speed-sensitive volume- this doesn’t work at all. The volume doesn’t turn down when I come to a stop and it doesn’t get louder as I drive. Sometimes I’ll be driving at a steady speed and the volume will suddenly increase, then maybe a minute later it’ll return to the original volume. It happens on different radio stations and Spotify, so it’s not the station causing the problem.
• Qi charger- doesn’t work. It recognizes when my phone is set on it (Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra) and it will begin to charge, but after about 5 minutes it stops because it’s overheating the phone.
• Suspension- this car has the worst suspension of all the cars I’ve had in my life. I feel every bump and crack in the road.
• Pressing any seat memory button brings up an alert on the dash about the lane-keeping system (??). Bizarre. The alert also often appears when I get in the car and the seat moves forward into driving position.
• Day/Night lighting on dash- it often gets confused. Sometimes at night, when it’s dark, the dash lights up brightly as if it thinks it’s daytime. Sometimes the dash lighting is correct for the time of day but the nav screen is wrong, sometimes vice-versa.
• Maybe 1 out of every 20-25 times I get in and start it up, the Bluetooth won’t connect to my phone. I have to stop, put it in park, shut if off and (this is the key), open the door. Then I close the door and start up again and it will connect.
• When the doors are unlocked and I open the back hatch by pressing the button on the underside of the hatch handle, the hatch opens fully. But when the doors are locked, it opens only a few inches and I have to press it again to fully open. This is annoying.

Any one or two of these things would be so minor that I wouldn’t even mention them, but there are enough that I just feel like I shouldn’t have to put up with all the glitchiness for what this car is and what it cost. I really expected a more refined vehicle and am regretting not going with one of the other cars I was considering.

Sorry for whining, I'm just envious of everyone who doesn't seem to have these issues, as I really wanted to love this car. Counting the days until my lease ends.

Sorry for your issues. With experience and Information all of the similar minor issues on my 23 GTPE were addressed and resolved. Perhaps trade your MME in for another manufacturer.

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