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Read about the testing here.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/testing-teslas-range-anxiety.html

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html



Ford Mustang Mach-E Edmunds EV Ultimate Range Comparison Test: Mach-E vs VW ID4, Tesla Model 3, Tesla Model Y {filename}
The Chart: Edmunds' EV Testing Data vs. EPA Estimates




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Ford Mustang Mach-E Edmunds EV Ultimate Range Comparison Test: Mach-E vs VW ID4, Tesla Model 3, Tesla Model Y edmunds-logo-and-text-generic
RangeConsumptionConditions
2021 Audi
e-tron Sportback
218 miles238 miles*
(+9.2%)
44 kWh/
100 mi
38.2 kWh/
100 mi
(+13.2%)
71°
2020 Chevrolet
Bolt
259 miles277 miles
(+6.9%)
29 kWh/
100 mi
25.7 kWh/
100 mi
(+11.4%)
60°
2021 Ford
Mustang Mach-E AWD Ext Range
270 miles304 miles
(+12.6%)
37 kWh/
100 mi
33.1 kWh/
100 mi
(+10.5%)
62°
2020 Hyundai
Ioniq Electric
170 miles202 miles
(+18.9%)
25 kWh/
100 mi
20.8 kWh/
100 mi
(+16.8%)
70°
2019 Hyundai
Kona Electric
258 miles315 miles
(+21.9%)
28 kWh/
100 mi
22.3 kWh/
100 mi
(+20.4%)
61°
2020 Kia
Niro EV
239 miles285 miles
(+19.2%)
30 kWh/
100 mi
25.3 kWh/
100 mi
(+15.7%)
67°
2020 MINI
Cooper SE
110 miles150 miles
(+36.5%)
31 kWh/
100 mi
21.8 kWh/
100 mi
(+29.7%)
62°
2020 Nissan
Leaf Plus SL
215 miles237 miles
(+10.2%)
32 kWh/
100 mi
27.1 kWh/
100 mi
(+15.3%)
67°
2021 Polestar
2 Performance
233 miles228 miles*
(-2.1%)
37 kWh/
100 mi
35.2 kWh/
100 mi
(+4.9%)
67°
2020 Porsche
Taycan 4S
203 miles323 miles*
(+59.3%)
49 kWh/
100 mi
32.3 kWh/
100 mi
(+34.1%)
73°
2020 Tesla
Model S Performance
326 miles318 miles*
(-2.5%)
35 kWh/
100 mi
32.6 kWh/
100 mi
(+6.9%)
60°
2018 Tesla
Model 3 Performace
310 miles256 miles*
(-17.4%)
29 kWh/
100 mi
30.1 kWh/
100 mi
(-3.8%)
61°
2021 Tesla
Model 3 Long Range
353 miles345 miles*
(-2.3%)
25 kWh/
100 mi
25.9 kWh/
100 mi
(-3.6%)
53°
2020 Tesla
Model 3 Standard Range Plus
250 miles232 miles*
(-7.2%)
24 kWh/
100 mi
23.0 kWh/
100 mi
(+4.2%)
67°
2020 Tesla
Model X Long Range
328 miles294 miles*
(-10.4%)
35 kWh/
100 mi
35.0 kWh/
100 mi
0.0%
60°
2020 Tesla
Model Y Performance
291 miles263 miles*
(-9.6%)
30 kWh/
100 mi
29.6 kWh/
100 mi
(+1.3%)
65°
2021 Volkswagen
ID.4 First Edition
250 miles287 miles*
(+14.8%)
35 kWh/
100 mi
28.8 kWh/
100 mi
(+17.7%)
63°


  • In February 2021, we reported that every Tesla failed to hit its EPA range estimate in Edmunds' real-world EV range testing.
  • Tesla disputed our test results, stating that the full range of its vehicles' batteries was not being accounted for.
  • Tesla argued that we hadn't accounted for the safety buffer: additional miles after an indicated zero that would see its vehicles match EPA figures.
  • We assembled a group of five new electric vehicles from Tesla, Ford and Volkswagen to test Tesla's claim.
  • Our tests showed that there is no fixed safety buffer. Even allowing for the additional miles recorded after an indicated zero, only two of the six Teslas we tested would hit their EPA figures in our real-world conditions.
 
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There's a pattern to the EPA range underperforming measured distance in the listed ranges, but I can't quite put my finger on it... ?
 


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This shows that Tesla has learned how to game the EPA tests...the other automakers will do so soon as well, just like they have been gaming the EPA mileage tests for years. Tesla, despite teaming the tests, still is the efficiency leader when comparing equally sized vehicles.
 

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This shows that Tesla has learned how to game the EPA tests...the other automakers will do so soon as well, just like they have been gaming the EPA mileage tests for years. Tesla, despite teaming the tests, still is the efficiency leader when comparing equally sized vehicles.
Less weight and aero vs looks. No two are going to be the same. But what is true one giving you more than you thought vs one that doesn't.
 

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I'm glad to see this test performed again to give Tesla every possible opportunity to redeem itself, unfortunately however Tesla still falls flat on it's face on every single EPA range figure.

With that said I'm really not surprised to see this because Tesla has a proven history of selling promises and vaporware, like their full self driving that they will happily charge their customers upwards of $10,000 for full self driving when they know darn well it's a level 2 system and nowhere near ready to perform completed unassisted full self driving. When asked Elon always says it's about a year away, but they've been saying that for years now. Realistically if you bought FSD at $10k today, chances are you will never see actual FSD functionality for the entire life of your vehicle, and that is not ok.

I absolutely love what Tesla has done for the industry by forcing ICE manufacturers to get off their asses and start building serious compelling EV's that customers are actually asking for. But that said, it is absolutely not ok to sell something to a customer when the thing being sold does not actually exist, or falls far short of what was advertised.
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