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for sure - but I'd like it if they told you the average speed. Saying "we kept it within 5mph of speed limit" doesn't really tell you anything if you don't know the roads they drove on.

Really looking forward to head-to-head tests between the MME and MY to see what the real range/efficiency difference is between the two.
I did a mix of all drivings in the snow, up hill, flat and freeway at 60-65mph, saw 3.5-4miles/kwh.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/first-mach-e-delivery-in-washington-state-seattle.3389/
 

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Very sorry but this has not been our experience, both our previous model X and my model 3 .. they perform better with local driving, the regen system in our Tesla is truly better than others I have experienced with thus far, However both our previous model x and my model 3 had crappy efficiency going up to 80mph so I have to say it’s the opposite .. and looking at my EPA sheets not like that matter much looks like the EPA local driving cycle is better than highway compares to others.

anyways all that truly matters is what you use the car for and if you are coming from one EV to another EV you quickly see the difference in range between them doing the same things you have been doing for years .. now most may be coming from ICE to EV and I can tell you this nothing out there will have the range of your ICE vehicle. So just prepare for that and try not to compare it ..
I really was referring to the difference between Tesla and the mache. Being more aerodynamic helps more at higher speeds than slower speed. Air resistance increases on the square. Not trying to make a big point just the effects of lower resistance. Both will do better at slower speeds. I would think the mache would drop off faster than Tesla because of the air resistance at faster speeds.
 

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I really was referring to the difference between Tesla and the mache. Being more aerodynamic helps more at higher speeds than slower speed. Air resistance increases on the square. Not trying to make a big point just the effects of lower resistance. Both will do better at slower speeds. I would think the mache would drop off faster than Tesla because of the air resistance at faster speeds.
ahh I hear you .. I am just so disappointed in our previous model X and not crazy about my model 3 .. (except for its performance that never gets old..) but still it’s not all that efficient when driving quickly at sustain 75-80 mph .. will see what the Mach E can do because I’ll be trading it in for the Mach E .. and I for one will not change my driving style just because I went electric.. (that’s my wife telling me to slow down lol)
 

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Interesting The Tesla Model 3 tested with an EPA of 310 miles/charge only 256 miles on a single charge. While the MME rated at 270 miles/charge actually went 304 miles on that single charge. Of course on this forum all will be very excited as I am. However, I think it shows the need for a better more accurate range test score than the EPA is actually using. I've included the chart below so you can see all the EVs tested. Of note look at the Mini and Porsche, they too are being overly conservative.

VehicleEPA
estimated
Edmunds
tested
EPA
estimated
Edmunds
tested
Ambient
temperature
2021 Audi
e-tron sportback
218 miles238 miles*
(+9.2%)
44 kWh/
100 mi
38.2 kWh/
100 mi
(+13.2%)
71°
2020 Chevrolet
Bolt
259 miles277 miles
(+6.9%)
29 kWh/
100 mi
25.7 kWh/
100 mi
(+11.4%)
60°
2021 Ford
Mustang Mach-E AWD Ext Range
270 miles304 miles
(+12.6%)
37 kWh/
100 mi
33.1 kWh/
100 mi
(+10.5%)
62°
2020 Hyundai
Ioniq Electric
170 miles202 miles
(+18.9%)
25 kWh/
100 mi
20.8 kWh/
100 mi
(+16.8%)
70°
2019 Hyundai
Kona Electric
258 miles315 miles
(+21.9%)
28 kWh/
100 mi
22.3 kWh/
100 mi
(+20.4%)
61°
2020 Kia
Niro EV
239 miles285 miles
(+19.2%)
30 kWh/
100 mi
25.3 kWh/
100 mi
(+15.7%)
67°
2020 MINI
Cooper SE
110 miles150 miles
(+36.5%)
31 kWh/
100 mi
21.8 kWh/
100 mi
(+29.7%)
62°
2020 Nissan
Leaf Plus SL
215 miles237 miles
(+10.2%)
32 kWh/
100 mi
27.1 kWh/
100 mi
(+15.3%)
67°
2021 Polestar
2 Performance
233 miles228 miles*
(-2.1%)
37 kWh/
100 mi
35.2 kWh/
100 mi
(+4.9%)
67°
2020 Porsche
Taycan 4S
203 miles323 miles*
(+59.3%)
49 kWh/
100 mi
32.3 kWh/
100 mi
(+34.1%)
73°
2020 Tesla
Model S Performance
326 miles318 miles*
(-2.5%)
35 kWh/
100 mi
32.6 kWh/
100 mi
(+6.9%)
60°
2018 Tesla
Model 3 Performace
310 miles256 miles*
(-17.4%)
29 kWh/
100 mi
30.1 kWh/
100 mi
(-3.8%)
61°
2020 Tesla
Model 3 Standard Range Plus
250 miles232 miles*
(-7.2%)
24 kWh/
100 mi
23.0 kWh/
100 mi
(+4.2%)
67°
2020 Tesla
Model X Long Range
328 miles294 miles*
(-10.4%)
35 kWh/
100 mi
35.0 kWh/
100 mi
0.0%
60°
2020 Tesla
Model Y Performance
291 miles263 miles*
(-9.6%)
30 kWh/
100 mi
29.6 kWh/
100 mi
(+1.3%)
65°
One thing this chart indicates, at least to me, is that range anxiety is really a fig-newton of the imagkanaeyshkun. All of the ISE equivalents will only go about far as on a tank of gas. I will not be surprised if my Mache-E (arrives in a month or so 2WD extended range) goes further on a charge then my EcoBoost Premium goes on a tank.
 

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Talk about range anxiety! Geez, seems to boil down to whether or not you like the car you're driving. If not, get something else. Every car's range is going to vary based on how it's driven, the temps, the altitude (up/down hill), what its carrying, etc. The only thing that won't matter is the quality of the electricity!
 
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