From what I've heard, is the Tesla is also super bad and you're usually way under what it estimated and it ends up having to find you another charger on a route and detour you.
I certainly wouldn't want to dissuade anyone from road tripping their car. Although I will admit I had to do my first trip in it without my wife as she would be saying, "I told you so" constantly as well.
Glad you managed to make it ok
, when I picked up my GTPE last year it was right before I had a trip out to Vegas I normally go via death valley as I prefer the scenic route. however I was curious to see what it would be like in the GTPE and decided to see what the situation was like on the I15 for chargers the NAV and ABRP all had me stopping at baker and as the baker station always shows up in promos it made sense. . shame as it really is an ideal place to charge so EA really needs to do better job with that station. I will probably wait until the planned EA station comes online in Primm before I even contemplate taking the GTPE on a trip to Vegas as that way there is another charge option just in case.
Not surprised by the rapid discharge leaving Baker. The Halloran grade is a steep 16 mile uphill from Baker to the summit. Add a headwind (and/or a 100+ degree day in summer) and you definitely don’t want to under-plan for this leg of the trip.I drove my GT from Orange County, CA to Las Vegas over the weekend, and as many have done I wanted to give a few impressions from my trip.
Charged up to 100% at home, and headed off to Baker, CA to charge, keeping speeds at or below 75 mph. One other passenger, two suitcases and golf clubs in tow. Once I got to Baker that is when things got interesting. I knew that there were only two 150 kw chargers there, so I wanted to make sure I grabbed one of those. Plugged into the first charger and…. nothing. Turns out the screen on that charger was blank and wasn’t working at all, but having never fast charged a car before I didn’t know this. No problem, I went to another 150 kw charger to try my 2nd attempt. Plugged in and plug and charge failed. Tried another charger, failed again. At this point I assume plug and charge is not going to work so I tried the EA app. Also didn’t work. I then just tried to pay with my credit card, and it got declined. So this is now 5 separate failures and I’m thinking it’s very likely that I’m going to have to find another charging spot in Baker. Wanting to make this stop work though, I tried a 50 kw charger further down, plugged in, and success! Plug in charge worked fine and the car slowly but surely started pulling down power at 42 kw. I pulled in at 33%, and even though I only had about 85 miles left to get to Vegas, I wanted to be sure I made it fine so we spent an hour there to charge up to 80%.
Leaving Baker things got interesting again. Despite driving at 75 mph or less, there were extremely strong headwinds, and for the first 40 miles we only got 1.1 miles per kwh. I knew we had enough juice to make it to Vegas, but seeing our state of charge drop from 80% to almost ~44% in 40 miles was not fun, and seeing the range drop along with it. This was probably my biggest revelation of the trip. I was using Ford’s built in navigation system, and I figured that since the GOM knew where I was going that the range in the car would be somewhat based on my route. You all can correct me if I’m wrong, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I noticed the GOM would drop significantly on uphill climbs, and then I would get most of the range back on the way down the hill. I assumed it would stay somewhat consistent, as the car should know what goes up must come down based on my inputted destination.
We made it to Vegas at 33% charge. The hotel I was staying at had 2 free EV chargers, and when I pulled in there was once space left, and a Tesla that had finished charging, so I was able to charge back up to 100% overnight.
After two nights in Vegas and a drive out to play golf I started my return trip home at 92% charge. I used Ford’s navigation again, and knew that I could comfortably make it to Barstow, CA for a charge that would get me the rest of the way home. Wanting to save range still, I only used the heated seats and steering wheel. It got as low as 23 degrees fahrenheit on the drive, and being a Southern California boy I was not prepared for just how cold that is without using the car’s heater. In hindsight I probably should have put a jacket on before I started the drive. I indured the cold though, and rolled into Barstow at 26% charge.
The EA chargers in Barstow are at a Walmart, plugged into the nearest 150 kw charger I saw, plug and charge worked just fine and I started pulling down power at 124 kw. Finally, this is what I was hoping for on the first leg of the trip! Living in Orange County, Mach Es are fairly common, I see a few of them everyday, so I had yet to have a single person comment on my car while I have owned it. Not so in Barstow though. Plenty of people came by to chat while I sat there charging, most asking how far the car could go and how long it would take me to charge. It was fun getting to chat with everyone and talk up the car. Remembering the 1.1 miles per kwh that I got at times on the way to Vegas, even though I only needed to charge to probably 60% or so to get me home, I decided to charge to 80% just to be extremely safe. That took 35 minutes.
Made it back to Orange County with 44% charge left, with the car being much more efficient for that last leg of the trip.
Overall the GT is an amazing road trip car. The seats were absolutely some of the most comfortable I have ever sat in on a long trip, and using Blue Cruise for significant stretches made the drive seem effortless. The GOM not being very reliable though even with my destination inputted, and the issues I had getting the car to charge in Baker were really the only downsides. I know Ford has talked about that for the Lightning, the GOM will eventually take into account temperature, elevation, trailer weight, and so on when calculating a route. It seems like the Mach E is far from that at the moment though.
I love this car, and it was fun getting to experience the highs and lows of EV ownership over a long weekend.
I think that Caltrans has put in a charger in the rest area between Baker and Vegas. Yep, just checked PlugShare, the Valley Wells Rest area. 1 whole CCS, 100 kW, charger. That could just top you off to get to either Baker or Vegas, depending on direction, there's one on each side
Very good point. I’m glad I charged to 80% in Baker. It was probably in the mid 50s when I was driving. With temps in the 100s and AC going I’m sure one would get sub 1 miles per kWh.
I've made a few OC-Vegas trips, and one long range OC-Chicago trip, and I while I have no hesitation on taking the EV on long range trips, checking Plugshare before heading to the next station is a must. On my Chicago to OC return trip, I took the southern Rte 66 trip along 40, and the EA station in Needles was closed for Solar Canopy installation, which left zero fast charging options between Kingman and Barstow (~260ish miles). After stewing for 45 minutes in a RV park along the river, I decided to backtrack 60 miles to Kingman to top off. ABRP still had the Needles EA station open on their app, as did the Ford navigation. Ended up after charging in Kingman, going up through Laughlin and meeting up with I15 in Nipton. Adding 4 hours to the end of my 3 day road trip left me really cranky, but I was never so happy to get home!
Wow, that would be a nightmare. Glad you still made it! These trips do require so much planning. Until my wife can hop in the car, set the destination in the nav and just follow it, EVs are going to struggle on road trips. And we are not there yet.
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And as they build out the charging infrastructure so that nobody questions range, we (as early adopters) can gloat and say "I told you so!"Nice writeup! I made a trip from LA to Vegas before Christmas and took the ICE SUV instead because I was not sure about the charging situation, especially in Baker (only cost $120 in gas
I did see an EA station at a Target close to the strip (cant remember the exact location but it wasn't far away from the main strip).
In terms of the stress around charging/GOM etc... when I drove the GT to LA the first time it was definitely stressful, but once you make the trip and know what needs to be done, its actually not bad. Between BC and the fun of driving the car, I actually prefer driving the MME over an ICE vehicle.
These types of write ups help and if the wife says "I told you so" I'll show her the cost of charging for the trip vs the gas bill ?
