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Looks useless to us unless that cable gets longer
Very curious about this too. I rented a Model Y on vacation, and to supercharge I had to back completely up to the station until my wheels were against the concrete stop and it STILL felt like the cable was under a little tension. Actual measurements may prove me wrong but they really seem like they engineered the cables only to be as long as they needed to be for Teslas.

 
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Two ways to think about this: 1) Tesla opens up the network, makes a ton more revenue, and boosts their share price, or 2) Tesla opens up the network and alienates their loyal customers who bought a Tesla largely due to the SC network. I think there's a solid business case to open the network in a way that doesn't alienate their customer base.

I think they slowly add CCS-compatible posts in rural locations where superchargers sit mostly unused (like virtually any SC station I see on road trips through the Midwest US). This keeps them from angering Tesla faithful in the beginning and allows for a gentle transition.

I think Tesla will also command a price premium for non-Teslas (probably via a monthly subscription), and I'm completely ok with that. This helps bridge the gap in the DCFC charging network until other charging companies can catch up. Meanwhile, Tesla is paying a TON for monthly demand charges for those rural stations, so they might as well get some revenue for it.
I would gladly pay $1 per kWh to use a supercharger location. I say that because I plan on rarely/never using one. I want to have access in an emergency, or if I’m driving somewhere where there are no other Level 3 Chargers (Northern New Hampshire). That will disincentivize any non Tesla from using them, but keep them available when needed.
 

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Tesla Destination L2 cables are pretty short and I don't have trouble using them (with a TeslaTap).
The Tesla desination (L2) EVSEs I've used have very long cables. Gotta be at least 3x-4x longer than those short SC cables.
 

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The sooner they just put credit card swipes on the chargers, and get rid of proprietary apps and such, the better it will be for adoption. Chargers should work like gas pumps (without the annoying TV commercials 😀)
Even better, both. The apps are great too and often more convenient for regular users. But the ability to just drive up to a new network and use a credit card is important too.
 


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Very curious about this too. I rented a Model Y on vacation, and to supercharge I had to back completely up to the station until my wheels were against the concrete stop and it STILL felt like the cable was under a little tension. Actual measurements may prove me wrong but they really seem like they engineered the cables only to be as long as they needed to be for Teslas.
Because that is exactly what they were designed to do, until Tesla opens the Super Chargers to other manufacturers there is no need to reach anything but Teslas.

If and when the chargers are opened to other EV manufacturers the cables will be changed out for longer ones.
 

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Looks useless to us unless that cable gets longer
ICE Mustangs are excellent side walk surfers. Check any Cars&Coffee video on youtube. So just run up the curb and the cable will be right next to our port.
 

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ICE Mustangs are excellent side walk surfers. Check any Cars&Coffee video on youtube. So just run up the curb and the cable will be right next to our port.
That would go over great with the Tesla drivers haha
 

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ICE Mustangs are excellent side walk surfers. Check any Cars&Coffee video on youtube. So just run up the curb and the cable will be right next to our port.
Won't work, tesla cords are designed to have the vehicle plugged in at the left rear corner while backed in. You would literally have to back the Mach E up by 2/3rds of the car length to reach the plug, there just isn't enough real estate to accomplish that.
 

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Won't work, tesla cords are designed to have the vehicle plugged in at the left rear corner while backed in. You would literally have to back the Mach E up by 2/3rds of the car length to reach the plug, there just isn't enough real estate to accomplish that.
Perfectly good sarcasm wasted again.
 

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The Tesla desination (L2) EVSEs I've used have very long cables. Gotta be at least 3x-4x longer than those short SC cables.
Hmmm... I guess they vary. The Tesla Destination L2 charger I used several times last month is about 4 feet long.

 

 
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