For new owners: is it worth it?

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I was just answering the question from the perspective of my order to build and delivery experience. I sure hope they have the process and efficiencies down to turn things around faster, but I'll defer to the Ford experts on current order timing. Hopefully it is faster, but I know there's that semiconductor shortage and heard that they're also prioritizing Broncos right now from the dealer side so not sure if that'll impact MME production at all.
Yeah, until now everyone who ordered and received was a pre-order (I guess??) so the wait was super long. I can only imagine times will get shorter and shorter.
And I assume Bronco production won't affect the Mustang because they're in different factories.
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Yeah, until now everyone who ordered and received was a pre-order (I guess??) so the wait was super long. I can only imagine times will get shorter and shorter.
And I assume Bronco production won't affect the Mustang because they're in different factories.
Yep, different factories but I believe the semiconductor supply chain and inventory is shared so Ford will need to prioritize where those go based on orders/revenue opportunity... and so far Bronco orders are higher then MMEs.
 

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Yep, different factories but I believe the semiconductor supply chain and inventory is shared so Ford will need to prioritize where those go based on orders/revenue opportunity... and so far Bronco orders are higher then MMEs.
Yeah, I can see that happening. Hopefully this chip shortage is short-lived.
 

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Overall, I do like the MME. I got the Premium ER RWD and have a lot of the same feedback as @SteelMach. I'm down in Texas and have had it for about 1.5 weeks (didn't drive during the snows though).

Here's my feedback:
+ Exterior Looks: it's got nice curves ? Very sporty and iconic silver really makes the accents pop! Panoramic roof is really slick! Overall the MME looks way better than any Tesla in my opinion. Also definitely looks way better in person than just the pictures online in my opinion.
+ Ease of use: The button style door handle actually is something I really surprisingly enjoy, along with the kick to open liftgate. The door handle on the inside is nice as well and gives it great satisfying feel. Plus the fact that the MME knows when you're approaching or walking away is nice too so you don't forget to lock it.
+ Handling: you can definitely notice the difference between the three drive modes and I mainly go with Engage has it just feels like a good balance between Whisper and Unbridled. Turning radius is great on it compared to my 2013 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. Kind of feels like I'm driving in a video game (e.g. think Cruis'n USA). ?
+ Comfort: The seats are comfortable and very similar to my MKZ. The seat warmers work really fast compared to my MKZ which is nice. The interior overall is just really well put together and relaxing. Side bolstering for the front seats aren't as pronounced as my MKZ though. Generally I don't hear a ton of road noise like others do, but again not as quiet as my MKZ.
+ Software configuration: I'm a techie and Computer Engineer in a past life, and LOVE that there's so many configurable options. I'm an Android guy so configuration doesn't scare me. That being said it can be overwhelming for some and I think Ford did a good job of hiding most in the advanced settings. Plus the tool tips are a nice touch!
= Storage Space: The actual storage space wasn't as much as I was expecting for a SUV. The frunk I basically don't use because it's a pain to open with the manual inside lever, and difficult to shut closed. The rear trunk is a nice sized space, but I was hoping to fit a lot more than just a stroller.
= Screen whine: I have this on mine, but it wasn't as noticeable as others have mentioned. If I'm trying to listen for it I'll hear it if I'm not driving, but generally don't hear it if there's music or I'm on the road.
- Motor whine: When I don't have the music on I can definitely hear the wine of the rear motor distinctly. Wasn't expecting that to be as loud.
- Bounce: I definitely noticed the bouncy ride as well compared to my MKZ Hybrid. The ride on the MME is just not as smooth in comparison, and even driving over nicely paved roads I still feel a lot of roll/bounce.
- Software performance: Let me caveat this by saying I am pretty judgy when it comes to good software and I do think this is where Tesla does shine compared to any of the traditional manufacturers. It's not easy to develop good software and Ford did a valiant effort with a newest version of Sync 4A compared to the old MFT version I had on my Lincoln MKZ. Aesthetically the UI looks great! However for performance, it is still sluggish and laggy compared to using a smartphone. Not nearly as bad again as the MKZ but not as seamless as a smartphone or Tesla. It's most noticeable when you're switching between tiles. Once you're within a tile it's very performant.
- Android Auto: I was on the verge of putting this as a neutral or positive. When I was running Android 10 on my Galaxy S10 Plus it was flawless and I really like that the Google map navigation turn by turn would show up in the front instrumentation cluster and the main display. That being said when I recently upgraded to Android 11 it no longer works at all. This is a known issue though and hopefully should be addressed soon and then this would bump back to a positive.
- Advanced driving features: The good side is that it recognizes speed limit signs really well. That being said most are cons. I've yet to successfully have the lane centering on cruise control work. Just intermittently cancels... Likely due to the local roads not having consistently marked lane lines, and this is where Tesla has a leg up. I'm sure you do better on highways. The lane keeping assist I would say is comparable to my 2013 Lincoln MKZ hybrid which wasn't all that great either for the same reason above. The automatic parking doesn't recognize parking lines so not as useful there. My wife wishes it had the Tesla auto park features to get it into / out of the garage ?
- Phone as a Key: I like the concept but execution hasn't been mind-blowing. I have it installed on my and my wife's phone and we still have issues with it. For instance, the MME not recognizing when we approach the car to unlock it so having to manually press unlock on the app or press the car open button multiple times and hope that it will eventually recognize, not recognizing that there's another PaaK in the car once the main user steps out. I think them only providing one key fob is really a big letdown cuz that's been consistently fine to use, and even my MKZ had 2 in the ability to pair them to profiles seamlessly.

Do I regret waiting this long for it? No, I don't regret waiting because I think it's a solid car. That being said if you're just putting an order now and delivery won't happen until end of this year, I don't know if I would wait. I think given a lot of the majors investing into EV now and releasing more options, if you're not in any rush I'd say wait until other options like the new Bolt, Ioniq 5, Toyota options, and others come out this year as they look intriguing too and definitely have good range, fast charging, and some interesting features.
You nailed nearly every point. Many of the exact same items I'd have chosen too.

One note -- Android Auto works fine if you connect by USB. A temporary fix until Google fixes it with bluetooth. This is the first time I've had a car that does AA and I LOVE it already! I'm a big Google Maps user.

I really haven't noticed the rear motor whine, but I'm rarely not using the sound system while driving.
 

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You nailed nearly every point. Many of the exact same items I'd have chosen too.

One note -- Android Auto works fine if you connect by USB. A temporary fix until Google fixes it with bluetooth. This is the first time I've had a car that does AA and I LOVE it already! I'm a big Google Maps user.

I really haven't noticed the rear motor whine, but I'm rarely not using the sound system while driving.
I have Android 10 and it won't connect Android Auto wirelessly and when I try to connect through the usb c it force restarts my phone. Are you connecting through usb c or regular usb?
 


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I have Android 10 and it won't connect Android Auto wirelessly and when I try to connect through the usb c it force restarts my phone. Are you connecting through usb c or regular usb?
Check for updates to the Chrome app at the app store. If you have the latest version, can you try the usb connection again? Google says they've fixed that bug.

As for wireless Android Auto, Google is pushing out an update to AA, too, but said it releases in rolling waves across the user base so it may not be available to your phone yet.
 

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Check for updates to the Chrome app at the app store. If you have the latest version, can you try the usb connection again? Google says they've fixed that bug.

As for wireless Android Auto, Google is pushing out an update to AA, too, but said it releases in rolling waves across the user base so it may not be available to your phone yet.
Thanks I tried the usb again and it worked. Can't wait to use Android auto for my 6 minute drive to work, may have to go out for breakfast so I can drive longer.
 

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I have Android 10 and it won't connect Android Auto wirelessly and when I try to connect through the usb c it force restarts my phone. Are you connecting through usb c or regular usb?
USB-C. I'm on Android 11. Literally just got a new phone this week (S20 FE). Seems to be working well, although it seems like I have to plug in AFTER I start the car for it to recognize it. I connected once before starting the car and it didn't work (although that was just once, and maybe I had something else wrong).
 

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The update works with my Android Auto as well, no more endless looping but still not wireless. I thought it was supposed to be fixed the 22nd, guess not. Which is annoying. The PAAK never has worked yet, have had it over a week now. Ford dealership has let me down, supposed to have contacted me about having some specialist meeting to help me. I have done everything possible on my end. Reset the entire car, the keys, un/reinstalled the app, tried my wife's iphone, etc. Always says connection problem, get closer to the car. Tried with it hooked up to home wifi, the built in AT&T hot spot, and others. My phone is connected via bluetooth, plays music fine. So its connected, just wont give me a damn key.

A lot of the points I agree with. I am overall very, very happy with this car. Hopefully the bugs get worked out soon enough. I still get sad sometimes not having my old car, but that will pass. I would make the trade again. And I traded in a Maserati. Really enjoy the Mach-E.

edit, dbsb3233 I too have to unplug my phone before starting it up it Android Auto gives me an error. Turning on the car with the phone plugged up does not work.
 

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Old info. I canceled my original MME order when it looked like the payments might over-stretch my budget and I went with a Bronco Sport Badlands. Then that build date went into May (from February) and I started considering alternatives to Ford, including the e-Tron. That's when my dealer called, and I'm thrilled that he did!
 

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Old info. I canceled my original MME order when it looked like the payments might over-stretch my budget and I went with a Bronco Sport Badlands. Then that build date went into May (from February) and I started considering alternatives to Ford, including the e-Tron. That's when my dealer called, and I'm thrilled that he did!
You have to fix that - it is still there :)
 

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I have the chance to buy a GB FE which is my desired color but seeing all the little (and sometimes big) issues pop up have me thinking I should just order a later build and wait.
I know it's probably just the "echo chamber" that makes it seem like many are having issues since we're all here on a forum about the freaking car lol but I really don't want to have a bunch of issues crop up with a brand-new car that I would be buying from a dealer an hour and a half away from home.

Anyone else thinking of waiting instead of hunting down a First Edition or even just a Mache E currently on the lot? Feel like it's a game of Russian Roulette right now.
 

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I have the chance to buy a GB FE which is my desired color but seeing all the little (and sometimes big) issues pop up have me thinking I should just order a later build and wait.
I know it's probably just the "echo chamber" that makes it seem like many are having issues since we're all here on a forum about the freaking car lol but I really don't want to have a bunch of issues crop up with a brand-new car that I would be buying from a dealer an hour and a half away from home.

Anyone else thinking of waiting instead of hunting down a First Edition or even just a Mache E currently on the lot? Feel like it's a game of Russian Roulette right now.
My first test drive was actually in a First Edition, since then I have come across two Premium AWD ER for sale in my area. None of them was in the exact color combination I wanted, which is what made me pause; once I read about the issues reported here, I decided to just wait for a later build. I have always expected issues with a first-model year car, especially one built from scratch, but some being reported are more than I am willing to put up with. I don't have to be the first one on the block to have one. Placed an order two weeks ago.
 

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My first test drive was actually in a First Edition, since then I have come across two Premium AWD ER for sale in my area. None of them was in the exact color combination I wanted, which is what made me pause; once I read about the issues reported here, I decided to just wait for a later build. I have always expected issues with a first-model year car, especially one built from scratch, but some being reported are more than I am willing to put up with. I don't have to be the first one on the block to have one. Placed an order two weeks ago.
Even if you get it in May I still think you'll be first on the block! :cool:
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