For those waiting on orders, what does the Model Y price drop to $52,990 make you think?

[4sallypat]

I got my MY already (11 days from order to fulfillment after price drop). I haven’t looked back since. It is kinda fun now actually learning how and where to charge and enjoying the EV experience. I honestly don’t know when I would have been able to experience this with the way MME orders are being handled.

So do you like your catfish EV ?

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[Bobbyg813]

That 7 year old catfish was named Motor Trend's ultimate car of the year (best of the best) and will still out accelerate and out handle the MME. It will also accelerate for more than 5 seconds before shutting down and has 0 risk of leaving you stranded because of a battery/powertrain design defect. The windshield and roof will also not fly off while driving because some tequila-drinking-on-the-job Mexicans forgot to glue it down properly at the factory.

Powertrain is speced for 1 million miles so it will still be cruising the highways long after your MME is collecting pigeon shit in a junk yard somewhere.

 

[MacherAWD]

That 7 year old catfish was named Motor Trend's ultimate car of the year (best of the best) and will still out accelerate and out handle the MME. It will also accelerate for more than 5 seconds before shutting down and has 0 risk of leaving you stranded because of a battery/powertrain design defect. The windshield and roof will also not fly off while driving because some tequila-drinking-on-the-job Mexicans forgot to glue it down properly at the factory.

Powertrain is speced for 1 million miles so it will still be cruising the highways long after your MME is collecting pigeon shit in a junk yard somewhere.

And yet my friend with one (ceo, company car) said he prefers my MME in every way and said if he was buying it would be what he got. The S was too big, wide and low for my taste. My other friend with an S was also considering selling it for a Bolt, it was getting expensive in it's old age.

To each their own.

 

[4sallypat]

And yet my friend with one (ceo, company car) said he prefers my MME in every way and said if he was buying it would be what he got. The S was too big, wide and low for my taste. My other friend with an S was also considering selling it for a Bolt, it was getting expensive in it's old age.

To each their own.

Oh and don't forget that Tesla MY and M3 have suspensions that make you carsick real fast.

That's the feature my wife and I have had as passengers in our family, co-workers & friends' M3 and MY.

A real nauseating feature that I don't understand...

 

[Bobbyg813]

To each his or her own. Tesla upgraded the suspensions of both the model three and Y a few months ago in response to owner feedback that the ride was too harsh. Others here have compared the upgraded suspension favorably to the MME.

 

[Guss-E 2021]

BREAKING NEWS: FORD REDUCES MACH-E PRICES ACROSS THE BOARD! Story at 11!

As you were...

 

[4sallypat]

BREAKING NEWS: FORD REDUCES MACH-E PRICES ACROSS THE BOARD! Story at 11!

As you were...

Oh yes!

Glad Ford responded to Tesla price drops with their own price reductions!

 

[ultramantaro]

To most shoppers price, range and performance would be key factors. For those that are going for value the small dent in the select's pricing won't swing any more buyers. They will likely flock to Bolt-land where arguably if you don't care about AWD or RWD, its a slam dunk.

Nice gesture though I don't think they will be moving many more units. Need another 5% cut at the minimum. I will more interested then.

 

[yngwenli]

To most shoppers price, range and performance would be key factors. For those that are going for value the small dent in the select's pricing won't swing any more buyers. They will likely flock to Bolt-land where arguably if you don't care about AWD or RWD, its a slam dunk.

Nice gesture though I don't think they will be moving many more units. Need another 5% cut at the minimum. I will more interested then.

I actually think price is the biggest determination. The extra range is nice, but not needed by a lot of people I feel, but they will get it "thinking" it will be needed and there is no option for SR Model Y yet. Performance is nothing for a lot of people you look at who actually drives a MY, but that's my opinion (have you looked and noted like 10 people who are actually driving a MY?). I think any EV will trump any ICE for performance in general.

I feel there are bigger factors in a car decision like brand (brand Elon), looks, colors, functionality (minimalistic vs. regular car like), not having a front screen, buttons everywhere which are the bigger factors.

I think a lot of Mach-Es also go further than listed, and most Tesla's go less than advertised. Supercharging network is the ultimate win, but I got an ICE for that which has no issues in freezing cold and my fill up is 5 minutes, but that's based on my needs.

Price is really the main thing and that's with the < $55k MY. I "get" people like performance on the streets, but just not my thing anymore, but folks have $$.

 

[Bobbyg813]

Oh yes!

Glad Ford responded to Tesla price drops with their own price reductions!

Carpe diem! Take possession of your MME in the next 4-8 weeks if you want the tax credit. When the IRS announces new rules in March, MME will most likely not qualify for any tax credits, at least initially, because the batteries are assembled in Poland with Chinese minerals.

New LFP batteries will be sourced and assembled in China by CATL, so it will be months, if not years before MME is eligible again.

 

[4sallypat]

Carpe diem! Take possession of your MME in the next 4-8 weeks if you want the tax credit. When the IRS announces new rules in March, MME will most likely not qualify for any tax credits, at least initially, because the batteries are assembled in Poland with Chinese minerals.

New LFP batteries will be sourced and assembled in China by CATL, so it will be months, if not years before MME is eligible again.

100% correct.
March is when IRS rules on the battery for tax credit eligibility.

Hoping my incoming arrives before then !!!

 

[Nemy]

Carpe diem! Take possession of your MME in the next 4-8 weeks if you want the tax credit. When the IRS announces new rules in March, MME will most likely not qualify for any tax credits, at least initially, because the batteries are assembled in Poland with Chinese minerals.

New LFP batteries will be sourced and assembled in China by CATL, so it will be months, if not years before MME is eligible again.

I thought Ford thought that they'd get $3750 with the new requirements? Guess we'll wait and see. Either way, I don't think this is enough. The MYLR after tax credit is still the same price as the cheapest MME (Select SR RWD). So no extended range MMEs qualify and likely can't be dropped much more because of the battery size and the cost involved. Tesla's ahead because the MYLR basically has the same battery size of the SR MME.

What I think it does show is Ford's attempt to capture the tax credit.

 

[ultramantaro]

I actually think price is the biggest determination. The extra range is nice, but not needed by a lot of people I feel, but they will get it "thinking" it will be needed and there is no option for SR Model Y yet. Performance is nothing for a lot of people you look at who actually drives a MY, but that's my opinion (have you looked and noted like 10 people who are actually driving a MY?). I think any EV will trump any ICE for performance in general.

In general as a large EV cohort, I would agree that performance isn't key. But when a shopper looks for EV6/Ioniq 5 vs MY vs MME then it stands out. For Ford in their case especially, they listed out 0-60 times on their site just like Tesla. I am sure they have done their research and found most of their shoppers care about that stat.

 

[MacherAWD]

I thought Ford thought that they'd get $3750 with the new requirements? Guess we'll wait and see. Either way, I don't think this is enough. The MYLR after tax credit is still the same price as the cheapest MME (Select SR RWD). So no extended range MMEs qualify and likely can't be dropped much more because of the battery size and the cost involved. Tesla's ahead because the MYLR basically has the same battery size of the SR MME.

What I think it does show is Ford's attempt to capture the tax credit.

You can order a 23 select for 46k, so that is 35k after tax breaks where I am. The MY is 53k, so 42k after tax breaks.

 

[yngwenli]

In general as a large EV cohort, I would agree that performance isn't key. But when a shopper looks for EV6 vs Ioniq 5 vs MY then it stands out. For Ford in their case especially, they listed out 0-60 times on their site just like Tesla. I am sure they have done their research and found most of their shoppers care about that stat.

All true and they all care, but it's still just 1 data point that some people I feel like to overinflate that it's more important than other things. I give you that price is the major one only. The supercharging network is also huge, but not everyone needs that.

I disagree though that a typical Suburban mom shuffling her kids around on errands really cares that her MY goes 0-60 in 4.8 secs while a MME goes only 0-60 in 5.2 secs (Premium AWD). My wife doesn't even like 1PD nor use a ton of the stuff on these cars. At least it has Apple Carplay (which Tesla lacks...that's probably a bigger deal breaker for some folks than a 0-60 time which seriously, 99% people won't notice. That and being forced to use Tesla SW when you might like some Android stuff as well). Remember, folks that spout the < $55k has price for sure, but you give up other things going on the Tesla platform.

As someone who used to track cars and all that, sure, on a race track, it matters, but seriously, I doubt 95% or higher will be pushing their cars to anything close or have even set foot on a racetrack.

I can't say I like the look of a Tesla so I'm heavily biased and I admit it. That and I paid a lot less (well under $40k).

I just always think people spouting 0-60 times are only going straight and like to think they are good drivers or something (not you specifically, just people in general).

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