Ford Announces 2 New EV Pickups (2027) and a Electric Commercial Van (2026)

[Jerrytball]

The only reason the Mach e was affordable for me was because I had a $25,000 vehicle to trade which brought down the price to like 30 or less for the Mustang. I wanted a gas powered Mustang the wife wanted an SUV so when I drove the electric Mustang I was sold on it and it was affordable for me. My retirement income is such that you could put on their $30,000 tax credit when you buy this car and it wouldn’t mean nothing to me because I don’t end up paying and or may not have to file taxes next year , although amount that I have in the bank that doesn’t put me over the limit that would require me to file as well, but I’m comfortable so Has to really be less than 40 for me to be comfortable to buy it without a huge down payment.

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[dbsb3233]

No mention of PHEVs specifically, just hybrids in general. If they really want to leverage the tax credits, they need both qualifying battery cells and some new PHEVs to put them in. $7500 federal tax credit (plus often state) on a $35k PHEV would be a huge seller.

I still don't get why they haven't already done that. They could get 7x as many $7500 tax credits for the same number of cells that go into a single BEV. Hell, just keep making the Escape PHEV if nothing else.

 

[dbsb3233]

Great. Like we need more boxy non-aerodynamic EVs when the masses really need are sensible commuter and family friendly vehicles at an attainable price. Do Americans really go to Home Depot or hunt deers everyday?

Buy a Tesla Model 3 if you want an aerodynamic, boring commuter car.

Yes, the North American market prefers larger utility vehicles that can handle many things in one package. It's Ford's bread and butter - pickups and SUVs.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Beat Tesla to the punch selling affordable EVs?? Tesla has been selling extremely affordable Model 3s and Ys for a couple years now…. and they’re doing it profitably. Say whatever you want about how their cars look or what you think of Elon, but they are currently achieving things that are still a pipe dream at Ford.

Ford is still way behind on software too. Tesla delivers monthly updates to FSD and highly requested new features all of the time. And there isn’t a constant barrage of people dealing with failed updates or being months or years behind on updates like many Ford owners are. We are stuck waiting YEARS for simple updates like charging speed displayed in-vehicle or BlueCruise improvements. It’s such a night and day difference in end user experience.

Most new model 3s and models ys I see are optioned into the 40s, often even the 50s. That may be affordable relative to the model x and model s, but that's still a rather high barrier to entry. Sure, if it's a full moon in Autumn, and the wind blows just right while you cross all your toes and make a wish, you might be able to find a model 3 new in the 30s, good luck.

But there really isn't an EV platform out there yet that's truly affordable to let's say, someone in their 20s buying their first new car. Hopefully this Ford EV platform is able to change that, but who knows.

 

[DeluxeStang]

For anyone wondering, it's a good think this Ford three row was canceled. It was described as being the ugliest Ford design in more than 50 years, literally no-one within Ford or within focus groups liked how it looked, and it was gonna start at about 60 grand. It would have flopped. CE1 is basically the opposite, it's basically a game changer for the entire EV industry.

 

[dbsb3233]

For anyone wondering, it's a good think this Ford three row was canceled. It was described as being the ugliest Ford design in more than 50 years, literally no-one within Ford or within focus groups liked how it looked, and it was gonna start at about 60 grand. It would have flopped. CE1 is basically the opposite, it's basically a game changer for the entire EV industry.

3rd row (adult-size), small battery (for reasonable price), and decent looking just don't go together.

The EV9 has managed to get closer than anyone else, but it's still like $15k more than the Ford Explorer line across-the-board. And Ford is nowhere close to making EVs profitable yet.

The good news is that Kia did manage to get a good drag co-efficient out of the EV9 design (for a 3-row boxy SUV), so it can be done. It's actually got slightly lower drag than the Mach-E (0.28 vs 0.29).

 

[Jeff-NoVA]

Magic batteries are not coming anytime soon... sorry.

They're not magic, they're the next step. A decade from now I think it's feasible. But, they will probably be in a Chinese EV.

 

[ThatGuyLando]

Interesting news from Ford this morning.

Kind of a bummer but they're not wrong. I love driving my Mach e but it sucks when I have to charge with 3 kids arguing in the back and my wife wondering why 2 out of the 4 chargers are down again.

 

[Mach1E]

Interesting news from Ford this morning.

The dash is important in this sentence.

“all-electric SUV” is singular. Meaning they killed the 3 row one.

“all electric SUV” is plural. Meaning that every Ford electric SUV would be dead (not true yet).

 

[dbsb3233]

Kind of a bummer but they're not wrong. I love driving my Mach e but it sucks when I have to charge with 3 kids arguing in the back and my wife wondering why 2 out of the 4 chargers are down again.

I have a different mindset to EA stations than many others do. Instead of focusing on the average of 1 down charger per station, I give thanks that they usually provide 3 working chargers covering nearly every interstate in the country at decent intervals. I compare that to every other network and I realize I wouldn't even own an EV without EA because road trips would be nearly impossible without them.

Superchargers are worthless V2s at half of their road trip stations. EVgo?... I don't see hardly any of those on my side of the country. ChargePoint?... usually max out at 62kw. Flying J... perpetually "coming soon". And expensive.

Warts or not, EA is a godsend to us. 3 chargers that are 150kw+, fair-priced (plus discount plan), that work on all CCS cars, with nearly nationwide coverage is a helluva lot better than anyone else is offering for CCS drivers. But instead, nearly every comment is bashing them for the 1 (sometimes 2) chargers that are down, even though the other 2-3 are more than anyone else provides.

 

[Sikkun]

Superchargers are worthless V2s at half of their road trip stations.

I have never had a problem at EA. But I’m not going to call thousands of chargers now available worthless either.

 

[Jerrytball]

I have never had a problem at EA. But I’m not going to call thousands of chargers now available worthless either.

I like EA too, but as many can verify from a post, it’s been down the whole summer and GULFPORT and that’s kind of a charging point for a lot of people coming from Atlanta or Florida west and it’s still down. I was actually able to get the technician to reboot the station, I was trying to use till the technician rolled up and said they’re not ready to go yet, I’m thinking they could be rebooted remotely. Why can’t we get these things going? It’s been almost 3 months the whole summer.

 

[dbsb3233]

I have never had a problem at EA. But I’m not going to call thousands of chargers now available worthless either.

To CCS drivers. That's the context. We're unable to use V2s. They're incompatible with CCS cars.

 

[medriver]

Didn't read the whole thread but this is what I think lol.

Remember tesla lost money for a really long time in order to now start to make some.

The other Not Tesla carmakers now have to also take it in the pants in order to erode their market share (currently happening).

Car platforms are too expensive to create to not sell the cars in volume, I would expect this is going to keep electric cars on their platforms longer than ICE cars and we will continue to have growing pains while the technology is rapidly evolving.

How the companies choose to lose their money is up to them, they have to compete with tesla and thats expensive.

 

[Sikkun]

To CCS drivers. That's the context. We're unable to use V2s. They're incompatible with CCS cars.

And we (Mach E) drivers are able to use thousands of V3/V4.

Far from useless.

Not the second coming of Christ like some people make them out to be. But a very good addition.

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