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Bank of America recently announced that they will be installing EA at many of their banks. Great idea. Draw people in to charge and possibly do their banking as well. They also make extra money on the sales of the electricity I am sure. I can see other major companies, say Target and Walmart doing this in the near future.
Many Walmarts around here already have EA charging stations. Hopefully EA prices come down at some point. Right now they're so expensive that it's no cheaper than an ICE economy car. For most people not a big deal as you'll only use them on road trips. But for folks living in apartments those EA chargers may be their only way to charge. Some apartments are getting charging stations, but not a lot of them around here.
 

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Bank of America recently announced that they will be installing EA at many of their banks. Great idea. Draw people in to charge and possibly do their banking as well. They also make extra money on the sales of the electricity I am sure. I can see other major companies, say Target and Walmart doing this in the near future.
Your prescience is granted - both already do have charging stations, as do some sam's clubs
 

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Not a half bad idea. Places like country stores could easily install this. Fed By 240v 200 amp service, you could service maybe a couple of dozen cars a day. Not great for cities or interstates, but you don't need it there, plenty of high power electric feed available. But in the country a capacity of charging 24 cars a day would fine in many areas. Also, as farm equipment goes electric, this would solve the problem of charging for farmers as well.
Seems like it would have to charge prohibitive rates in order to recover costs when it's only going to have a small number of paying customers each day though. Especially if it uses batteries, which we know are very expensive.
 

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More and more shopping centers and malls are installing chargers. A big win will be for restaurants to install them.
More so if they're NOT in the city. Where chargers are more needed is between cities.

Locals are going to charge (mostly) at home. It's the non-locals on road trips that need retail chargers.
 

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But for folks living in apartments those EA chargers may be their only way to charge. Some apartments are getting charging stations, but not a lot of them around here.
Frankly, if one lives in an apartment without secure, dependable L2 charging, a BEV usually isn't a good choice.

Most of the advantage of a BEV is in charging overnight at home at cheap residential rates. There's significant economic and convenience advantages to doing that. But if one has to rely on retailer charges for more than a small sliver of their charging, those advantages reverse and turn into liabilities.
 

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There's a reason Ford targeted the Y. It's going to be a great car. You think Ford is going to target crap? Hell no. They're going to go after the best and do their damnedest to beat them. I hope they do. And then I hope Tesla beats them back. Competition is good and will make each car far better than they otherwise would be. The Mustang wouldn't be near the car it is without the Camaro, and vice versa.
Ford has been targeting Tesla on the Y since the beginning. Remember when Ford trolled Tesla on Twitter for the delayed Model Y reveal ? It can't be a coincidence that the initial specs for the Mustang Mach-E were close to Tesla's Model Y. Uncomfortably close, I'd say, since Tesla released some updated figures to open up a gap on our favorite electric Mustang.

I'm in the 80% Mach-E camp with a 20% chance of a Model Y. Tesla seems to be stretching things out all the time (390mi Model S) trying to put space between themselves and those pesky upstarts from a hundred years ago. If Tesla comes out with new tech between now and delivery date for the Mustang Mach-E, it'll be impossible to ignore. Until then, Ford is working hard to make the MME a viable contender for yours and my consideration. As @Nak says, competition is good and we all benefit.

Ford is now in the incredibly important first follower position behind the market leader. If the Mach-E is successful, we'll see a bunch more EVs follow suit and hasten the widespread adoption of EVs. Don't underestimate the power of first followers.

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