Ford drops EV sales cap, lowers training costs for some dealers

[kennethjk]

My local dealership does not have a gate and their level 2 charger is always available. Close to a major road. I would suspect they will be installing a fast charger in front of their dealership.

I was told I could always use their charger if I wanted to.

I have seen many ford dealers off major highways so having fast chargers available 24/7 would be fantastic.

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[Electric Goat]

What janky dealers are you all visiting where they lock up their inventory and restrict front lot access?

If they have to lock up their lot then it's most likely a place I won't want to charge during after-hours anyway.

I've seen dealers around here lock up their service department lot but never their un-sold inventory and/or front lots.

 

[kennethjk]

In Bartow Fl. which Is not in a major city by any means, the Ford dealership had the gate locked in the front.

the rear service area was not gated but the level 2 chargers there were blocked by cars.

 

[Hammered]

Ford should require 2 48a L2 chargers at any dealer that sells EVs. That's a minimum of 2, publicly accessible, 24/7 as 'oh shit' stops of last resort.

Or build out a supercharging network.....

 

[timbop]

Ford should require 2 48a L2 chargers at any dealer that sells EVs. That's a minimum of 2, publicly accessible, 24/7 as 'oh shit' stops of last resort.

Or build out a supercharging network.....

Those are 2 completely different use cases. Are people really going to charge on a L2 for 5+ hours at a dealership? The only time that would make sense is if they're staying at a nearby hotel or living nearby and letting it charge overnight - which is exactly when the idiots will block off the chargers without the mandate.

The much more useful case is with DCFC - sitting in a dealer lot for 30 to 40 minutes is a reasonable expectation.

As for when people will take advantage of L2: when it's free or when they absolutely need a charge. I'll plug in at a hotel or restaurant when I don't need the charge if it's free, but I'm not paying if I don't need to get a charge - and if I need a charge it's likely far more than 5 or 10 kwh.

 

[kennethjk]

Those are 2 completely different use cases. Are people really going to charge on a L2 for 5+ hours at a dealership? The only time that would make sense is if they're staying at a nearby hotel or living nearby and letting it charge overnight - which is exactly when the idiots will block off the chargers without the mandate.

The much more useful case is with DCFC - sitting in a dealer lot for 30 to 40 minutes is a reasonable expectation.

As for when people will take advantage of L2: when it's free or when they absolutely need a charge. I'll plug in at a hotel or restaurant when I don't need the charge if it's free, but I'm not paying if I don't need to get a charge - and if I need a charge it's likely far more than 5 or 10 kwh.

Generally I agree but on my last trip I needed an extra charge and to play it safe I would have waisted an hour at a level 2 if the fast charger at a DD wasn’t available

 

[timbop]

Generally I agree but on my last trip I needed an extra charge and to play it safe I would have waisted an hour at a level 2 if the fast charger at a DD wasn’t available

Sure, and I've done that myself once when I wanted a cushion going through a charging desert - but that's an edge case. If the point of Ford mandating chargers is edge cases, then the original requirement for a single L2 is sufficient. If the intent is to actually put a dent in charging deserts then half-measures are a waste of time and money and the entire enterprise is destined to be a punchline.

If done right, DCFC at 2500 locations will be a powerful statement. Done wrong it will be one more reason for potential buyers to get a Tesla.

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