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Here is a video of the Director of Electrification Ford Europe explaining what systems are updated over-the-air. He explains the update feature at the timestamp 2:40.

 
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Here is a link to the Director of Electrification Ford Europe explaining what systems are updated over-the-air. He explains the update feature at the timestamp 2:40.
To add confusion to the never-ending "how much range will it really have" discussions all over this forum, I thought it would be fun to dissect this video for "range glamour shots".

255 Km (158 miles) / 56% battery remaining = 282 Miles (453 Km) total range
0 Km / no battery remaining displayed = who knows, demo mode?
399 Km (247 miles) / no battery remaining displayed = can't calculate range
410 Km (254 miles) / 82% battery remaining (assumed ... background out of focus hard to tell) = 309 Miles (497 Km) total range

I assume the differences are A-roll vs. B-roll footage edited together. That said, the last link / timestamp showing 309 miles appears to be B-roll with the speaker holding a camera (you see his fingers pointing just as he was doing in the prior shot before the jump cut), so I hope that one is the most reliable!
 

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Here is another gem (well, a gem for tech nerds like me clamoring for any nugget of information on the Mach E tech). We get an apparent glimpse into the front display working.

Starting at about 3:23 - 3:25 appears to be uncut A-roll. As the camera operator walks closer and pans into the steering wheel / display we start with the display apparently off. As the camera is panning, the display appears to "wake up" when the speaker touches the wheel. We can't see the speaker's feet, so we can't tell if he steps on the brake pedal (or, etc.) but it at least doesn't look like it. It appears at least to have been the touch / nudge on the wheel. I assume it's only a "wake up the display" because we only see PRNDL, not anything else.

Continue past 3:26 which appears to be a jump cutto B-roll which I personally suspect is shot after this scene (more in a minute).

Keep going to about 3:38 and we jump cut back to what appears to be the original A-roll we started with at 3:23. At this point, the display is now what I would describe as "fully illuminated", yet showing apparent "null or default" data like 0 Km range and the like.

I bet the way it is working is that if you get in the car and touch / nudge the wheel (probable, although again perhaps you tap the brake pedal) it starts to wake the display immediately displaying PRNDL. It likely takes a couple seconds to boot, then displays the "null or default" data. My guess is he then hit the ignition button for the B-roll and that causes the display to initialize with real data.

Anyway, very geeky and nerdy and all speculation based off clearly edited video, but thought some other nerd might enjoy.
 

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At about 1.34 he describes using your smart phone as a key. One problem. According to a spec sheet I have seen, this function is NOT available on RHD versions
 

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At about 1.34 he describes using your smart phone as a key. One problem. According to a spec sheet I have seen, this function is NOT available on RHD versions
That wouldnt make sense unless there was some kind of regulation against it. Much more likely is that its a mistake of omission, and will be available
 

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That wouldnt make sense unless there was some kind of regulation against it. Much more likely is that its a mistake of omission, and will be available
I read somewhere that it was regulatory but expected to be available at a future date.
 

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At about 1.34 he describes using your smart phone as a key. One problem. According to a spec sheet I have seen, this function is NOT available on RHD versions
The EU spec sheet from Ford shows "Phone as a key" is available on EU models. They've also used it as a selling point at both the Mach-E hands on events I've been to in the UK.

See attached PDF file and the image from the ford.co.uk website below :)

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To add confusion to the never-ending "how much range will it really have" discussions all over this forum, I thought it would be fun to dissect this video for "range glamour shots".

255 Km (158 miles) / 56% battery remaining = 282 Miles (453 Km) total range
0 Km / no battery remaining displayed = who knows, demo mode?
399 Km (247 miles) / no battery remaining displayed = can't calculate range
410 Km (254 miles) / 82% battery remaining (assumed ... background out of focus hard to tell) = 309 Miles (497 Km) total range

I assume the differences are A-roll vs. B-roll footage edited together. That said, the last link / timestamp showing 309 miles appears to be B-roll with the speaker holding a camera (you see his fingers pointing just as he was doing in the prior shot before the jump cut), so I hope that one is the most reliable!
All the lack of continuity in that video was amusing to follow. Including the driver display going from lit to black on either side of a still insert when it appears as though he's talking continuously throughout (not just voice-over but actual shots of him talking). I wonder if that's just the display timing out after opening the door? But yet, the large screen stayed on. Weird.

Even more weird is how the range changed from 399 to 410. Did they really take the car out and drive it between shots? Or maybe they had it plugged in and it was charging? (Although wouldn't that show on the driver display?)

And why the zero? What situation would exist where we'd see 0 range? Especially at what looks like a 100% full battery bar? Seems like pre-production shenanigans. All the numbers may be fake.
 

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The EU spec sheet from Ford shows "Phone as a key" is available on EU models. They've also used it as a selling point at both the Mach-E hands on events I've been to in the UK.
The more I think about that "phone as key" feature, the less useful I think it will be as anything more than a backup.

I liken it to a TV remote app on phone. I've got that installed on my phone too, but never use it. It takes a lot longer to pull out the phone, unlock it, and launch the app than it does just to use the regular remote. Same way with the fob in my pocket.

Automatically unlocking as you approach the car is nice, but the fob does that anyway (or at least it better - cars have had that for years).
 

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The more I think about that "phone as key" feature, the less useful I think it will be as anything more than a backup.

I liken it to a TV remote app on phone. I've got that installed on my phone too, but never use it. It takes a lot longer to pull out the phone, unlock it, and launch the app than it does just to use the regular remote. Same way with the fob in my pocket.

Automatically unlocking as you approach the car is nice, but the fob does that anyway (or at least it better - cars have had that for years).
I would expect paak to work the same as afob: no need to wake the phone, just have it in your pocket. The point of paak is that you can have one less thing in your pocket; even if the phone dies you punch in your pin as backup. Therefore it is the keyfob that is unnecessary.
 

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That wouldnt make sense unless there was some kind of regulation against it. Much more likely is that its a mistake of omission, and will be available
I think it is a regulatory thing. I believe the US Escape can be parked remotely using your phone and the Ford pass app when my 2017 Kuga (escape) cant.
 

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The EU spec sheet from Ford shows "Phone as a key" is available on EU models. They've also used it as a selling point at both the Mach-E hands on events I've been to in the UK.
This is what Ford had said back in November according to one article:
"And in the future you'll be able to use your phone as a key (this will be delayed in the UK due to various regulation, Ford says, but will arrive later). "

It may be that they've cleared this hurdle since the statement in November, but I haven't seen anything either way.
 

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The EU spec sheet from Ford shows "Phone as a key" is available on EU models. They've also used it as a selling point at both the Mach-E hands on events I've been to in the UK.

See attached PDF file and the image from the ford.co.uk website below :)

Secure and simple.png
I've not seen that spec sheet before on the UK website. I'll have a look. Looking at this pdf it would seem that there are differences to what I have got. Interesting
 

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I would expect paak to work the same as afob: no need to wake the phone, just have it in your pocket. The point of paak is that you can have one less thing in your pocket; even if the phone dies you punch in your pin as backup. Therefore it is the keyfob that is unnecessary.
But only for the proximity unlock. To open the hatch, or the frunk, or any other features, it would require unlocking the phone and launching the app.

The PIN pad also takes longer than just reaching for the handle and having to automatically unlock (via fob proximity).

Either way they're both more combersome than the fob. I'm not saying they're useless. For some, not carrying a fob may be a benefit worth those extra steps. But for me, I can't see it being any more than a backup option (like the PIN pad is now, which I've yet to use after 7 years 😋 ).
 

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But only for the proximity unlock. To open the hatch, or the frunk, or any other features, it would require unlocking the phone and launching the app.

The PIN pad also takes longer than just reaching for the handle and having to automatically unlock (via fob proximity).

Either way they're both more combersome than the fob. I'm not saying they're useless. For some, not carrying a fob may be a benefit worth those extra steps. But for me, I can't see it being any more than a backup option (like the PIN pad is now, which I've yet to use after 7 years 😋 ).
I wouldn't think so in regards to opening the trunk/frunk/etc. PaaK would/should work just like your FoB. Just as the Mach-E knows your phone is in your pocket to unlock the doors, it'd also let you open the trunk just by standing next to the car with your phone on your person and pressing whatever latch/button to open the trunk.

My assumption so far has been that PaaK is just like Tesla's implementation. Your phone acts just like a FoB in all respects.
 
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