Ford will be bankrupt in less than 4 years

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I guess that turned into a book, but I really wonder about these fanboys. I get liking a company and its products, but these guys are so fanatical it's just weird
Like you said, many have morphed from environmentally conscious missionaries into a personality cult.
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This is exciting news! The Mach-E is going to be a collector's item when Ford goes Bankrupt. Maybe I should make a second order for a GT.
 

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This is exciting news! The Mach-E is going to be a collector's item when Ford goes Bankrupt. Maybe I should make a second order for a GT.
But wait, what if it does not go Bankrupt. FORD with the F150 Truck, Bronco and MachE will do just fine. If that fails they own the market on the fleet business, if that fails they have the original Mustang :)

I am not even going to comment on the TESLA sponsored video. The one truth is that Ford does need to pay attention to the market and how to stay revenant. Changing the dealer interaction, remove haggle, allow for online ordering, and make it ahead of the time vs playing catching up. This is why the MACHE is a mustang, moving things forward.
 
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I hesitated to even post this video, as I would rather Zac and Jessie not get any more views but in the end I think it shows how rabid they've become.
To be clear, I up-voted your comments, not their off-the-deep-end video. ?

It's like they're in a cult.
 


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This is exciting news! The Mach-E is going to be a collector's item when Ford goes Bankrupt. Maybe I should make a second order for a GT.
Apparently I have 2 FEs on order now. Maybe I should keep both!
 

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There is definitely an unwarranted euphoria about Tesla that will eventually sober. Oddly enough, last night I was just reading about the "tulipomania" that took over the netherlands in 1636. It is just one example of the many times throughout history that a frenzy inflates prices to ridiculous levels - and there is always an inevitable crash.

Tesla did a horrible job just getting half a million cars out in one year fully assembled, and yet somehow they're going to magically scale up to millions?
I give Tesla and Elon a lot of credit for doing what they've done, and I root for better products for consumers from ALL businesses. But the more I hear from many of their kool-aid drinking fanboys, the more I want to see Ford and others leave them in the dust as real auto manufacturers get into the BEV game.
 

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Haha, you'll want to avoid Tesla Twitter then.
The Mach-E has had be poking around Twitter more in the last few months, and I've run into some of them. Yeah, there's some real doozies.
 

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Crazy video. I think the bigger issue is the huge cash burn and massive debt of Ford. There are better unbiased videos that Zac and Jesse. Hopefully this new CEO is better than the last couple that have been like a revolving door.

This one is more focused on financials: Ford Financials Video
 

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I give Tesla and Elon a lot of credit for doing what they've done, and I root for better products for consumers from ALL businesses. But the more I hear from many of their kool-aid drinking fanboys, the more I want to see Ford and others leave them in the dust as real auto manufacturers get into the BEV game.
Well, you can't fix a problem until you acknowledge you have a problem. Continuing to poorly slap cars together and make customers schedule multiple trips to service centers to get it corrected is not sustainable. That works on the small scale with friendly customers, but for general consumption the market will turn on them.
 

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You mean two EV'S that are not even in customers hands yet? Or the F150 announced in 2017 and now delayed till 2022...2 CEO's ago? 2017 F150 E Announcement
 

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