Grizzle Wall Charger / Chargepoint / Ford Home and two GFCI?

[MrRongoose]

Anyone using either the Grizzle or Charpoint wall chargers? Are they any good or should I wait for the Ford one to become available again?

Also, I currently have a 50amp breaker running to a 14-50 outlet for the mobile charger. I know you're not supposed to have the two GFCI in a row if I were to just plug into this existing outlet, but if I did do this hypothetically, is there a safety issue involved? I assume as long as both are 50 amp trips, one or the other will go.

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[SnBGC]

Anyone using either the Grizzle or Charpoint wall chargers? Are they any good or should I wait for the Ford one to become available again?

Also, I currently have a 50amp breaker running to a 14-50 outlet for the mobile charger. I know you're not supposed to have the two GFCI in a row if I were to just plug into this existing outlet, but if I did do this hypothetically, is there a safety issue involved? I assume as long as both are 50 amp trips, one or the other will go.

The Griz and CP are both good chargers. The CP can provide max current if you hardwire it on 60A circuit so it is a more comparable product match to the Ford wall unit.

 

[bruceski88]

Anyone using either the Grizzle or Charpoint wall chargers? Are they any good or should I wait for the Ford one to become available again?

Also, I currently have a 50amp breaker running to a 14-50 outlet for the mobile charger. I know you're not supposed to have the two GFCI in a row if I were to just plug into this existing outlet, but if I did do this hypothetically, is there a safety issue involved? I assume as long as both are 50 amp trips, one or the other will go.

I have 2 Grizzle units, one in each house. They are both plugged into a 14-50 outlet for maximum flexibility. One I installed completely myself and one I had the 14-50 installed as part of a panel upgrade. Both installed the same way and passed inspection. They work great and I use the MME to control charging. I even called Grizzle about needing GFCI breakers, because one contractor, who I did not use was telling me they were required. Grizzle said there is a GFCI in the unit and another would interfere with the operation of the unit. They said show the inspector the manual if necessary. We are still on 2017 electrical code. Two other contractors and 2 building inspectors confirmed a 2nd GFCI in the breakers is not required. If you have to put in a GFCI then I would hardwire it.

 

[MrRongoose]

I have 2 Grizzle units, one in each house. They are both plugged into a 14-50 outlet for maximum flexibility. One I installed completely myself and one I had the 14-50 installed as part of a panel upgrade. Both installed the same way and passed inspection. They work great and I use the MME to control charging. I even called Grizzle about needing GFCI breakers, because one contractor, who I did not use was telling me they were required. Grizzle said there is a GFCI in the unit and another would interfere with the operation of the unit. They said show the inspector the manual if necessary. We are still on 2017 electrical code. Two other contractors and 2 building inspectors confirmed a 2nd GFCI in the breakers is not required. If you have to put in a GFCI then I would hardwire it.

I don't have to, just convenience since the plug already has a GFCI on the breaker. I don't want to remove it in case I need to use a charger eventually that doesn't have it built in like the mobile one

 

[JMSMachE]

We have one of each. No problems with either charger, thus far.

 

[exact33]

I have an enel Juicebox 40 and love it!

 

[HBGuy]

I have the Grizzl-E Classic and am very pleased with it. I had to upgrade from a 30-amp to a 50-amp breaker on my electrical panel. It's a very, well-made charger that compares favorably with the Clipper Creek I previously had. I use it in 40-amp mode and find the charge rate consistent with what Grizzl-E stated. Highly recommended!

 

[Terry]

The Ford Connected Charger is available again. I got mine 2 weeks ago. I have had it on order for months though.

 

[MrRongoose]

The Ford Connected Charger is available again. I got mine 2 weeks ago. I have had it on order for months though.

Thanks but if this is correct, I will be either waiting or getting another

 

[macchiaz-o]

Thanks but if this is correct, I will be either waiting or getting another

Choose a less greedy retailer.

 

[MattG]

I have a Grizzl-E plugged into a 14-50 outlet; since the outlet is outside a GFCI breaker was required. I’ve had zero issues with this setup.

 

[MrRongoose]

I have a Grizzl-E plugged into a 14-50 outlet; since the outlet is outside a GFCI breaker was required. I’ve had zero issues with this setup.

Thank you. This is what I was hoping to hear. I'm in the same boat. Plus, if I ever want to use the mobile charger, I'd prefer the GFCI. Mine's on the way so hopefully it'll work. Worst case is, I get nuisance trips and I figured if I do, I can swap the breaker if it becomes bothersome.

 

[timbop]

If you're handy you can get a non-GFCI breaker for $10 to $15 and put it in yourself, keeping the GFCI breaker for future use. The concern with 2 GFCI's is that they interfere with one another due to the way that they work, causing inadvertent trips of the circuit.

Where I live they're still on the 2017 NEC so a GFCI wasn't required.

 

[Stang68]

Thank you. This is what I was hoping to hear. I'm in the same boat. Plus, if I ever want to use the mobile charger, I'd prefer the GFCI. Mine's on the way so hopefully it'll work. Worst case is, I get nuisance trips and I figured if I do, I can swap the breaker if it becomes bothersome.

I read that a GFCI isn't completely necessary with the Mobile Charger, is that true?

 

[krafty81]

Bought the CP at Home Depot. Get a 30% rebate in CA for the charger and install costs. Very substantial charger and works great!

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