noname
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In my case, I decided to just install the NEMA plug and hire electrician. I was upfront that this is for EV and I found that it needs GFCI by the code. When electrician in his 20s showed up he did not have GFCI breaker and I had to educate him. The company I hired estimated $800 in labor before taxes and permit, and the plug was 2 feet away from the breaker, so I was not happy with the electrician knowledge and experience when he showed up.
After I sent him back I did little research, pulled $70 permit since my city allows this type of install by owner, and just bought conduit, proper wire, 60Amp breaker and hardwired chargepoint station. Inspection took 5 min and I passed. Overall I spent $70 in permit, $60 in electrical parts and $700 for chargepoint. It took about 2 hours to install, and I was taking my time
Here is what I've learned about chargepont.
1. It's max capacity is 50Amp (on 70Amp breaker (you won't find 65Amp breaker)), however it only have enough space for #6 wire and it would not be up to the code if you wire it like that.
2. There are stricter rules if you want to install 70Amp breaker, like the box must be locked, so it is not worth the trouble at all
3. 48Amp (60Amp breaker) is the ideal (in terms of charging speed) hardwired setup for chargepoint
4. GFCI breaker (if you go NEMA plug) might be troublesome, but ford recommends it officially, so maybe it is just fine when you use it with ford charger
5. If it is an option, go hardwired route. I can charge almost 12kw/h and it only takes 3 hours to fill 50% of my SR battery. You do not even need to leave it overnight anymore. NEMA plugs feel very dated and not designed for EV in mind at all. Also, if you have kids, hardwired setup would be much safer setup.
6. Do not quote me, but I think Mache can only charge at 11kwh/h (48Anmp) on level 2, so 60 Amp breaker setup is the maximum you would need
My advice would be to go hardwired route, however it might be hard to find an electrician who can do this install, maybe I had bad luck, but all electricians I called just wanted to slap NEMA plug, none of them would hardwire the charger.
After I sent him back I did little research, pulled $70 permit since my city allows this type of install by owner, and just bought conduit, proper wire, 60Amp breaker and hardwired chargepoint station. Inspection took 5 min and I passed. Overall I spent $70 in permit, $60 in electrical parts and $700 for chargepoint. It took about 2 hours to install, and I was taking my time
Here is what I've learned about chargepont.
1. It's max capacity is 50Amp (on 70Amp breaker (you won't find 65Amp breaker)), however it only have enough space for #6 wire and it would not be up to the code if you wire it like that.
2. There are stricter rules if you want to install 70Amp breaker, like the box must be locked, so it is not worth the trouble at all
3. 48Amp (60Amp breaker) is the ideal (in terms of charging speed) hardwired setup for chargepoint
4. GFCI breaker (if you go NEMA plug) might be troublesome, but ford recommends it officially, so maybe it is just fine when you use it with ford charger
5. If it is an option, go hardwired route. I can charge almost 12kw/h and it only takes 3 hours to fill 50% of my SR battery. You do not even need to leave it overnight anymore. NEMA plugs feel very dated and not designed for EV in mind at all. Also, if you have kids, hardwired setup would be much safer setup.
6. Do not quote me, but I think Mache can only charge at 11kwh/h (48Anmp) on level 2, so 60 Amp breaker setup is the maximum you would need
My advice would be to go hardwired route, however it might be hard to find an electrician who can do this install, maybe I had bad luck, but all electricians I called just wanted to slap NEMA plug, none of them would hardwire the charger.
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