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Initial thoughts on my Grabber Blue First Edition Mach-E
Arrived at my dealer VERY dirty and with 25 miles on the odometer. There was a TON of brown dust throughout the car’s interior and even under the “sealed” frunk. I’m to believe my car was tested around the plant with the windows and frunk open at points. It cleaned up well enough but is a little sad to know that many could be in that state for such a long period. Most wouldn’t even see this as their dealer would detail before delivery, but I gave instructions to my dealer to do no cleaning or detailing of any kind, and I’m happy they honored my request (well, hey, less work for them so I’m sure they were more than happy to oblige).
Built VERY well. It looks and feels very solid. No panels gaps or other common build issues that I have found so far. I did find one scratched area of the plastic way under the dash, not visible unless you’ve got your head down in the floor.

Interior
The interior is very plush. Definitely “premium car” vibes for me, though not quite on the level of luxury. Seats are super comfortable to me, though I agree with others that having only one height adjustment point is rather lame. I’m still futzing with the “perfect” steering wheel/seat placement for myself.

The instrument cluster screen is far closer to the wheel than I had imagined. My Mach-E is the first I’ve sat in, before I’d only seen the GT model at the Washington Auto show from afar. I can’t find a suitable steering wheel/seating position where the driver display isn’t at least a little obstructed by the wheel. It’s not a big deal, and in practice doesn’t cause any issues.

Driving/Range
Good cross between comfort/sportiness in my opinion. I’m not a driving dynamic pro, so I don’t have a ton to say here other than that I love driving it. It accelerates quickly and handles well.

Here’s some “range” info from my commute to work. My journey is almost all highway, around 60-70MPH speeds with two 45-50 areas in there with stoplights, and about two miles of 25-35MPH speeds. Decent hills throughout the commute.

Started at 100% SOC (Est range of 222 miles) and the car had preconditioned to the “Medium” setting (it was pretty warm inside) in my garage. Set the HVAC to 66 (“E-Heat” was on), heated steering wheel on, and heated seat to low. Outside temps were 22-24F the whole way.

Car reported a 45.4mile trip in 53min, 2.7 mi/kWh consumption. Ended at 85% SOC.

Wireless Phone Charging
I use an iPhone 12 Pro without a case. Unfortunately, it does slide a bit on the wireless charging mat and eventually stops charging. Those with cases, especially TPU, may not have issues since it’ll grab to the rubber mat better.

On my morning commute (48 miles) my phone started at 57% battery. I was using Wireless Apple Carplay and the phone was charging on the mat, though I had to reposition it around 5 times. I ended with 60% battery life. This is good news, since I was concerned that using Wireless Carplay (Waze, Youtube Music going) would drain the battery faster than the stock charger could keep up with. If there were a 12V outlet near the charging mat area, I’d probably look at setting up a Magsafe charger there (15W magsafe charging requires 20W USB C power-delivery, I very highly doubt the Mach-E's USB C port would put out that much power). I may still look into a magsafe option, just so that the phone will stay in place.

I did an unscientific wired phone charging test with my Klein USB meter - Plugged it into the USB C port of the Mach-E and into my iPhone 12 Pro via USB C to Lightning. Phone was around 40% battery. Pulled around 11W of power.

IMG_0541.JPG


Infotainment/Sync 4A/Tech
First off, I’ll say that Sync4A as it stands is “okay”. It didn’t blow me away or anything, but it functions just fine, for the most part. It’s decently snappy, though not exactly “smooth”. There’s a jittery-ness to tapping things and opening menu’s that could be smoothed out to make the experience feel better.

TONS of options, which like others, I love. Some will find it overwhelming.

I did experience one larger issue with Syn4A where it reverted my screen mode back to “Light” (I had set it to Dark), and then wouldn’t accept any of my settings changes across the board (tapping any setting and changing it didn’t actually do anything). I restarted the system by holding down the Right Seek and Volume Up button on the steering wheel, as found out by another member of the forum. That fixed the issue and it hasn’t come back since.

I also had some audio distortions happen twice on my commute with Carplay (playing music from Youtube Music). I’d never experienced this on my i3 using Wireless Carplay. Hopefully it doesn’t continue.

Here's my Sync system info for reference (same revision as @hybrid2bev ):
IMG_0505_LI.jpg


Phone-as-a-Key/FordPass
I haven’t been able to get this to work reliably enough for me to feel comfortable. There’s too much of a delay in the car recognizing my phone is present. Hopefully they’ll be working on this since they’ve made it clear they want you using it. I’ve posted my experience about this in a more dedicated thread.

I've also posted my thoughts on FordPass in a more dedicated thread. It needs some work...

Electrical Noise/Whine from Instrument Cluster Screen
I’ve made a separate thread about this issue. I will hopefully be visiting another Mach-E today to confirm it’s not in that one, and going to my dealership to discuss.
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/high-pitched-electrical-whine.3225/


Here's some pictures from delivery - Haven't had a good change to take anything nice since cleaning her up, nasty weather outside yesterday.

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And some from in my garage, I've posted elsewhere:

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Initial thoughts on my Grabber Blue First Edition Mach-E
Arrived at my dealer VERY dirty and with 25 miles on the odometer. There was a TON of brown dust throughout the car’s interior and even under the “sealed” frunk. I’m to believe my car was tested around the plant with the windows and frunk open at points. It cleaned up well enough but is a little sad to know that many could be in that state for such a long period. Most wouldn’t even see this as their dealer would detail before delivery, but I gave instructions to my dealer to do no cleaning or detailing of any kind, and I’m happy they honored my request (well, hey, less work for them so I’m sure they were more than happy to oblige).
Built VERY well. It looks and feels very solid. No panels gaps or other common build issues that I have found so far. I did find one scratched area of the plastic way under the dash, not visible unless you’ve got your head down in the floor.

Interior
The interior is very plush. Definitely “premium car” vibes for me, though not quite on the level of luxury. Seats are super comfortable to me, though I agree with others that having only one height adjustment point is rather lame. I’m still futzing with the “perfect” steering wheel/seat placement for myself.

The instrument cluster screen is far closer to the wheel than I had imagined. My Mach-E is the first I’ve sat in, before I’d only seen the GT model at the Washington Auto show from afar. I can’t find a suitable steering wheel/seating position where the driver display isn’t at least a little obstructed by the wheel. It’s not a big deal, and in practice doesn’t cause any issues.

Driving/Range
Good cross between comfort/sportiness in my opinion. I’m not a driving dynamic pro, so I don’t have a ton to say here other than that I love driving it. It accelerates quickly and handles well.

Here’s some “range” info from my commute to work. My journey is almost all highway, around 60-70MPH speeds with two 45-50 areas in there with stoplights, and about two miles of 25-35MPH speeds. Decent hills throughout the commute.

Started at 100% SOC (Est range of 222 miles) and the car had preconditioned to the “Medium” setting (it was pretty warm inside) in my garage. Set the HVAC to 66 (“E-Heat” was on), heated steering wheel on, and heated seat to low. Outside temps were 22-24F the whole way.

Car reported a 45.4mile trip in 53min, 2.7 mi/kWh consumption. Ended at 85% SOC.

Wireless Phone Charging
I use an iPhone 12 Pro without a case. Unfortunately, it does slide a bit on the wireless charging mat and eventually stops charging. Those with cases, especially TPU, may not have issues since it’ll grab to the rubber mat better.

On my morning commute (48 miles) my phone started at 57% battery. I was using Wireless Apple Carplay and the phone was charging on the mat, though I had to reposition it around 5 times. I ended with 60% battery life. This is good news, since I was concerned that using Wireless Carplay (Waze, Youtube Music going) would drain the battery faster than the stock charger could keep up with. If there were a 12V outlet near the charging mat area, I’d probably look at setting up a Magsafe charger there (15W magsafe charging requires 20W USB C power-delivery, I very highly doubt the Mach-E's USB C port would put out that much power). I may still look into a magsafe option, just so that the phone will stay in place.

I did an unscientific wired phone charging test with my Klein USB meter - Plugged it into the USB C port of the Mach-E and into my iPhone 12 Pro via USB C to Lightning. Phone was around 40% battery. Pulled around 11W of power.

IMG_0541.JPG


Infotainment/Sync 4A/Tech
First off, I’ll say that Sync4A as it stands is “okay”. It didn’t blow me away or anything, but it functions just fine, for the most part. It’s decently snappy, though not exactly “smooth”. There’s a jittery-ness to tapping things and opening menu’s that could be smoothed out to make the experience feel better.

TONS of options, which like others, I love. Some will find it overwhelming.

I did experience one larger issue with Syn4A where it reverted my screen mode back to “Light” (I had set it to Dark), and then wouldn’t accept any of my settings changes across the board (tapping any setting and changing it didn’t actually do anything). I restarted the system by holding down the Right Seek and Volume Up button on the steering wheel, as found out by another member of the forum. That fixed the issue and it hasn’t come back since.

I also had some audio distortions happen twice on my commute with Carplay (playing music from Youtube Music). I’d never experienced this on my i3 using Wireless Carplay. Hopefully it doesn’t continue.

Here's my Sync system info for reference (same revision as @hybrid2bev ):
IMG_0505_LI.jpg


Phone-as-a-Key/FordPass
I haven’t been able to get this to work reliably enough for me to feel comfortable. There’s too much of a delay in the car recognizing my phone is present. Hopefully they’ll be working on this since they’ve made it clear they want you using it. I’ve posted my experience about this in a more dedicated thread.

I've also posted my thoughts on FordPass in a more dedicated thread. It needs some work...

Electrical Noise/Whine from Instrument Cluster Screen
I’ve made a separate thread about this issue. I will hopefully be visiting another Mach-E today to confirm it’s not in that one, and going to my dealership to discuss.
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/high-pitched-electrical-whine.3225/


Here's some pictures from delivery - Haven't had a good change to take anything nice since cleaning her up, nasty weather outside yesterday.

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And some from in my garage, I've posted elsewhere:

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Great review. I really hope Ford cleans up these issues you (and others) have noticed. Combined, those little issues would be enough for my wife to be extremely frustrated and never want to drive it (the phone as a key thing -- although she could use the fob). Most importantly, I really like your license plate! Coupled with the grabber blue, you're sure to turn heads.
 

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Outside temps were 22-24F the whole way.

Car reported a 45.4mile trip in 53min, 2.7 mi/kWh consumption. Ended at 85% SOC.
2.7*88 = 238mi expectected range
238/270 = 88% of published range in 24 degree weather

Not bad. The key seems to be those heated seats/wheel vs heating the whole cabin
 
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2.7*88 = 238mi expectected range
238/270 = 88% of published range in 24 degree weather

Not bad. The key seems to be those heated seats/wheel vs heating the whole cabin
I was heating the whole cabin, set to 66F, the whole journey. I did start with the cabin preconditioned though, and the battery would have been decent from being in my garage.

I'll post what numbers I see on my commute back home, since the car will have sat outside in the cold at work all day.
 
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Great review. I really hope Ford cleans up these issues you (and others) have noticed. Combined, those little issues would be enough for my wife to be extremely frustrated and never want to drive it (the phone as a key thing -- although she could use the fob). Most importantly, I really like your license plate! Coupled with the grabber blue, you're sure to turn heads.
Thanks! I've had quite a few stares, and one person come up to me with their son wanting to check it out.

I'm holding faith that Ford will start to address a lot of the issues/concerns.
 

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Initial thoughts on my Grabber Blue First Edition Mach-E
Arrived at my dealer VERY dirty and with 25 miles on the odometer. There was a TON of brown dust throughout the car’s interior and even under the “sealed” frunk. I’m to believe my car was tested around the plant with the windows and frunk open at points. It cleaned up well enough but is a little sad to know that many could be in that state for such a long period. Most wouldn’t even see this as their dealer would detail before delivery, but I gave instructions to my dealer to do no cleaning or detailing of any kind, and I’m happy they honored my request (well, hey, less work for them so I’m sure they were more than happy to oblige).
Built VERY well. It looks and feels very solid. No panels gaps or other common build issues that I have found so far. I did find one scratched area of the plastic way under the dash, not visible unless you’ve got your head down in the floor.

Interior
The interior is very plush. Definitely “premium car” vibes for me, though not quite on the level of luxury. Seats are super comfortable to me, though I agree with others that having only one height adjustment point is rather lame. I’m still futzing with the “perfect” steering wheel/seat placement for myself.

The instrument cluster screen is far closer to the wheel than I had imagined. My Mach-E is the first I’ve sat in, before I’d only seen the GT model at the Washington Auto show from afar. I can’t find a suitable steering wheel/seating position where the driver display isn’t at least a little obstructed by the wheel. It’s not a big deal, and in practice doesn’t cause any issues.

Driving/Range
Good cross between comfort/sportiness in my opinion. I’m not a driving dynamic pro, so I don’t have a ton to say here other than that I love driving it. It accelerates quickly and handles well.

Here’s some “range” info from my commute to work. My journey is almost all highway, around 60-70MPH speeds with two 45-50 areas in there with stoplights, and about two miles of 25-35MPH speeds. Decent hills throughout the commute.

Started at 100% SOC (Est range of 222 miles) and the car had preconditioned to the “Medium” setting (it was pretty warm inside) in my garage. Set the HVAC to 66 (“E-Heat” was on), heated steering wheel on, and heated seat to low. Outside temps were 22-24F the whole way.

Car reported a 45.4mile trip in 53min, 2.7 mi/kWh consumption. Ended at 85% SOC.

Wireless Phone Charging
I use an iPhone 12 Pro without a case. Unfortunately, it does slide a bit on the wireless charging mat and eventually stops charging. Those with cases, especially TPU, may not have issues since it’ll grab to the rubber mat better.

On my morning commute (48 miles) my phone started at 57% battery. I was using Wireless Apple Carplay and the phone was charging on the mat, though I had to reposition it around 5 times. I ended with 60% battery life. This is good news, since I was concerned that using Wireless Carplay (Waze, Youtube Music going) would drain the battery faster than the stock charger could keep up with. If there were a 12V outlet near the charging mat area, I’d probably look at setting up a Magsafe charger there (15W magsafe charging requires 20W USB C power-delivery, I very highly doubt the Mach-E's USB C port would put out that much power). I may still look into a magsafe option, just so that the phone will stay in place.

I did an unscientific wired phone charging test with my Klein USB meter - Plugged it into the USB C port of the Mach-E and into my iPhone 12 Pro via USB C to Lightning. Phone was around 40% battery. Pulled around 11W of power.

IMG_0541.JPG


Infotainment/Sync 4A/Tech
First off, I’ll say that Sync4A as it stands is “okay”. It didn’t blow me away or anything, but it functions just fine, for the most part. It’s decently snappy, though not exactly “smooth”. There’s a jittery-ness to tapping things and opening menu’s that could be smoothed out to make the experience feel better.

TONS of options, which like others, I love. Some will find it overwhelming.

I did experience one larger issue with Syn4A where it reverted my screen mode back to “Light” (I had set it to Dark), and then wouldn’t accept any of my settings changes across the board (tapping any setting and changing it didn’t actually do anything). I restarted the system by holding down the Right Seek and Volume Up button on the steering wheel, as found out by another member of the forum. That fixed the issue and it hasn’t come back since.

I also had some audio distortions happen twice on my commute with Carplay (playing music from Youtube Music). I’d never experienced this on my i3 using Wireless Carplay. Hopefully it doesn’t continue.

Here's my Sync system info for reference (same revision as @hybrid2bev ):
IMG_0505_LI.jpg


Phone-as-a-Key/FordPass
I haven’t been able to get this to work reliably enough for me to feel comfortable. There’s too much of a delay in the car recognizing my phone is present. Hopefully they’ll be working on this since they’ve made it clear they want you using it. I’ve posted my experience about this in a more dedicated thread.

I've also posted my thoughts on FordPass in a more dedicated thread. It needs some work...

Electrical Noise/Whine from Instrument Cluster Screen
I’ve made a separate thread about this issue. I will hopefully be visiting another Mach-E today to confirm it’s not in that one, and going to my dealership to discuss.
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/high-pitched-electrical-whine.3225/


Here's some pictures from delivery - Haven't had a good change to take anything nice since cleaning her up, nasty weather outside yesterday.

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IMG_0495.jpg


IMG_0496.jpg


IMG_0498.jpg


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IMG_0493.jpg


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And some from in my garage, I've posted elsewhere:

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Your commute to work is so very similar to mine that I will be watching what you say with much interest. Of course it is a bit colder here . . . just warmed up to 10 degrees since this morning.
 

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2.7*88 = 238mi expectected range
238/270 = 88% of published range in 24 degree weather

Not bad. The key seems to be those heated seats/wheel vs heating the whole cabin
That's not a bad winter hit at all.
 
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That's not a bad winter hit at all.
Mark, any update on the status of your car? I believe our cars were traveling together. When I check Palsapp, there is no update on movement for the MME I had on order. The Ford tracker estimated delivery at 20 Feb. I have not heard anything from my dealer, including after I emailed him to cancel my order.
 

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Mark, any update on the status of your car? I believe our cars were traveling together. When I check Palsapp, there is no update on movement for the MME I had on order. The Ford tracker estimated delivery at 20 Feb. I have not heard anything from my dealer, including after I emailed him to cancel my order.
Arrived Rail Port Wilmington
 
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Not sure if anyone cares, but Berglund Ford in Salem acted as if the Mach-E they got in this weekend is for sale....

Will be going by there after lunch to compare it to mine (as far as the screen noise goes).
 

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I can’t find a suitable steering wheel/seating position where the driver display isn’t at least a little obstructed by the wheel. It’s not a big deal, and in practice doesn’t cause any issues.
That's usually an issue for me too as I like to position the seat high. Even though I'm 6'1", I just like a higher SUV-like sitting position, and a lower steering wheel (in my lap). Visibility is better sitting high. But the downside is that the steering wheel blocks more of the driver display.

But from what I've seen so far, looks like Ford did a good job of putting the important stuff in the center and bottom of the 10" screen rather than the top. It's the upper corners that get cut off, and sometimes the whole top (in My Escape, anyway).
 

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Thanks for the extensive review - I have the same car except in carbonized gray metallic. I agree with your comments about the sync 4A system. I live in a part California - where the temp rarely gets to freezing unless I drive toward the Sierras, so range decrease from cold weather is not as much of an issue now. I posted elsewhere in response to others that both PAAK and homelink (neighborhood gate and garage) work well for me. I have left the FOB in the house and my the car unlocks with a push of the door button with just the phone in my pocket. I also use the two finger lock on the door code that works well every time. I do this to prevent the lock honk. Wish there was a way to walk away from the car and leave it unlocked and not have the car lock/honk. I almost never lock my cars in the garage. Annoying - but the two finger lock works well to prevent the honk. The plug in nozzle that came with the car is much easier to get in at home than when using the nozzles at the commercial chargers - really have to force the nozzle to get it seated In those units. (Anyone found any tricks to get the nozzle to seat easily?) Will have the Ford wall mount with the stated 30 mph charge installed in 10 days. Should significantly decrease the need to use the commercial chargers. I use an iPhone 12 pro too but with an Apple case and the phone stays put. I will check the beginning and end charge percentage on my next outing. Agree the interior is fairly plush with no issues. The sound par looks and sounds great. I have put a screen cloth in the center console to clean the screen which gets smudged fairly easily as does the door lock area and above. Again thanks for the review. PS Why did you not want the car detailed? I just really enjoyed the fresh start.
 

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Thanks for the write up.

People made fun of me when I suggested Ford should fully wrap these while shipping. Or at least try a little harder to keep them clean. Clearly not a priority here.

One thing about all these real world write ups. They help to lower the overall expectations enough to temper some of these minor but possibly annoying issues. The real test is how quickly Ford addresses some of them. Things like the Phone As Key are pretty big issues for me.
 

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Unfortunately, it does slide a bit on the wireless charging mat and eventually stops charging. Those with cases, especially TPU, may not have issues since it’ll grab to the rubber mat better.
One thought on keeping the phone from sliding around... place a few "dots" with a hot glue gun at key spots to act as bumpers around the footprint of the phone. Not the most elegant solution, but might work OK. And if not, hot glue usually just peels right off with no evidence it was there.
 

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