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Yes ... but.

If you listen to what Darren says, all three driving modes are similarly efficient. There may be some slight imperceptible difference. However, the driving modes tend to encourage different driving styles that may lead to differences.

For example, they have said the acceleration mapping in Whisper is much more gentle than in Unbridled. Whisper will tend to encourage sedate driving. In contrast, the immediate response of the accelerator to the pedal movement in Unbridled will tend to make you want that horse to run. That will be less efficient than the sedate driving in Whisper.
That's what I was thinking too. Meaning, as long as you accelerate at the same speed, then you get the same efficiency no matter what mode you're in. But the more aggressive modes allow (maybe even encourage) you to accelerated faster. And when you do, it burns more juice. But if you baby it in Unbridled, it the same result as Whisper.

And either way the regen probably produces the same energy, since the brake pedal applies regen first (unless you really smash it). So for normal slowing, it's still the same regen whether triggered by lifting off the accelerator or pressing the brake pedal.
 
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A lot of newbies will get worse efficiency in one pedal or strong regen modes because they aren’t coasting enough and/or having to accelerate after braking too much.
 

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Curious, do electric cars with one-pedal driving automatically turn on the brake light when slowing down, or does it only initiate when using the brake pedal?
that’s a super cool and insightful question
 

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It annoys me that they always mention the ambient light, since the select model does not have it. What a shame. :confused:
Are we sure it does NOT have the ambient lighting for drive modes? Other European models have it also standard.
 

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Are we sure it does NOT have the ambient lighting for drive modes? Other European models have it also standard.
The RWD models in Europe do not have the multi-color ambient lighting either
 

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The RWD models in Europe do not have the multi-color ambient lighting either
And you know that HOW? I have not seen anything to say that they haven't.
 

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And you know that HOW? I have not seen anything to say that they haven't.
In the official brochure I've got from Ford, it says that ambient lightning is on the AWD model. It could be included in a technology package but theres no ambient lightning mentioned.
 

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In the official brochure I've got from Ford, it says that ambient lightning is on the AWD model. It could be included in a technology package but theres no ambient lightning mentioned.
Interesting that you have a "brochure". All my efforts to get one have failed with only what is on the website available. FordUK have said that there isn't a hard copy available. Perhaps you could scan it and post on here for us to look at
 

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Interesting that you have a "brochure". All my efforts to get one have failed with only what is on the website available. FordUK have said that there isn't a hard copy available. Perhaps you could scan it and post on here for us to look at
I've got it from an event i was last Friday. Of course I can scan the document but it's in german. I'll scan as soon as I'm at home and try to translate it for you 😉
 

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Interesting that you have a "brochure". All my efforts to get one have failed with only what is on the website available. FordUK have said that there isn't a hard copy available. Perhaps you could scan it and post on here for us to look at
It is in the price lists for example in Netherlands and Germany. But saw it was not mentioned in the UK pricelist as an item.
 

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Yes ... but.

If you listen to what Darren says, all three driving modes are similarly efficient. There may be some slight imperceptible difference. However, the driving modes tend to encourage different driving styles that may lead to differences.

For example, they have said the acceleration mapping in Whisper is much more gentle than in Unbridled. Whisper will tend to encourage sedate driving. In contrast, the immediate response of the accelerator to the pedal movement in Unbridled will tend to make you want that horse to run. That will be less efficient than the sedate driving in Whisper.
Sure; I'd bet the meaning is that all three modes are designed to be equally efficient from the engineering perspective. Thus if you drive the three the same you'll get the same range out of the car.

As pointed out by you, and others, however, the different "experiences" will tend to entice different driving "styles" some more aggressive than others which may have a larger affect on the overall efficiency than any design decisions in the car.
 

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It is in the price lists for example in Netherlands and Germany. But saw it was not mentioned in the UK pricelist as an item.
I suppose that makes sense. For some reason all the markets that Ford are selling this car in ALL have different versions and standards. Talk about confusing. Just hope that they get the spec right on the production line. I thought the ambient lighting was incorporated in the driving modes but have just looked on the US spec sheet I have and the Premium and FE have it listed but not Select/CAL R1. Ambient lighting is NOT listed on ANY of the UK versions according to the specs so it is either included in all or none have it. It sounds to me like it could be pot luck. Still not a deal breaker as far as I am concerned
 

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Curious, do electric cars with one-pedal driving automatically turn on the brake light when slowing down, or does it only initiate when using the brake pedal?
Tesla and Bolts do. I always assumed it was regulated.
 

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This is good news. I had been nervous that 1-Pedal Drive was going to be something you had to toggle in each key cycle. I'm glad I can lock it into 1-Pedal mode forever.

I also like that the Unbridled center display shows the actual battery %.

I was 99% sure I'd be driving in Unbridled (sound off!!!!!) before this, but now it's all but confirmed.
 

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Interesting, didn't think about a manual so I guess it isn't as bad as it sounds. We know the Mach-e will use the friction brakes to hold, so presumably the tail lights will be on. In fact current Ford cars, including Mach-E I think, has an auto hold. I tried it test driving an Explorer. Basically, once you brake and come to a complete stop, you can take your foot off the brake and the car will just keep you there. Awesome for the long drive-thru line at Raising Cane's. I think the Mach-E will have that option if you don't use 1-pedal, and I guess there really isn't a reason to not have it if you are using 1-pedal.
Yeah I think that's part of how our experiences drive the expectations.

I've never been a fan of automatics, and I came out of a manual into my Model 3, so the "engine braking" lift off seemed perfectly natural - as did the fact that you can override the Auto Hold and get the thing to roll backwards on hills/driveways if you feather the accelerator.

For someone used to an automatic, 1-Pedal will be a learning curve.
 



 









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