Li-ion co-inventor patents glass battery that could upturn auto industry

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As always, I love to see smart people coming up with good ideas. The hurdle from good idea to viable product is usually a very high one though. We'll see how quickly any of these types of battery improvements actually go large scale commercial. Since batteries are so much more in demand these days, I would think some breakthroughs will be coming and be commercially viable some time this decade. Batteries that accept very fast charging will be the "holy grail" of EV's and would probably push ICE cars into a niche status.
 

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As always, I love to see smart people coming up with good ideas. The hurdle from good idea to viable product is usually a very high one though. We'll see how quickly any of these types of battery improvements actually go large scale commercial. Since batteries are so much more in demand these days, I would think some breakthroughs will be coming and be commercially viable some time this decade. Batteries that accept very fast charging will be the "holy grail" of EV's and would probably push ICE cars into a niche status.
Exactly. If they can get refueling safely down under 5 minutes (full charge), that would move BEVs from like a 30% market share ceiling to 80%.
 
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The nice thing about this one is when Nobel-Laureates release another discovery, they tend to get attention within industry.
 

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That sounds promising. I wonder what the manufacturing differences are between the Li-on formulation and current Li-on batteries? How much change in the current process.

Great that the patent is semi-public owned by the two universities so it is something all the battery mfgs could use.

Top Battery Mfgs are:

Panasonic Japan
CATL China
LG Korea
Optimum China,
 

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Watched a YouTube about this a few months ago. Just one of many "possible" future battery ideas. Using graphene is another. So many ideas, but there's a huge gap between "possible" and becoming a viable commercial product.
 

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So many ideas, but there's a huge gap between "possible" and becoming a viable commercial product
What were the production gaps regarding Dr. Goodenough’ s glass forumualion?
 
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What were the production gaps regarding Dr. Goodenough’ s glass forumualion?
Not sure what you mean by "production gaps". As I understand it, there's no production yet. It's only in the lab stage right now. Like many other ideas. Long way to go to prove whether it's really viable for mass production in vehicles.
 

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Not sure what you mean by "production gaps"
Barriers to current production. Is this a formulation that can easily be incorporated into current Li-on battery production or is their a "gap" between current technology and what is needed for current production.

If we see the major battery mfgs, Panasonic, CATL, LG, Tesla, signing licensing agreements with the two universities it would be a sign that there is no "gap".

Mind the gap.
 

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Barriers to current production. Is this a formulation that can easily be incorporated into current Li-on battery production or is their a "gap" between current technology and what is needed for current production.

If we see the major battery mfgs, Panasonic, CATL, LG, Tesla, signing licensing agreements with the two universities it would be a sign that there is no "gap".

Mind the gap.
I didn't get the impression it was even remotely close to that point yet. Sounded more like it was one of the numerous next generation battery ideas being played with in the lab. Most of them prove not to be viable. And when one does, it's usually a 5+ year timeframe before we see it in mass production. Tons of designing, testing, refining, and proving needs to take place. Especially for a usage like an automobile.
 

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I didn't get the impression it was even remotely close to that point yet. Sounded more like it was one of the numerous next generation battery ideas being played with in the lab. Most of them prove not to be viable. And when one does, it's usually a 5+ year timeframe before we see it in mass production. Tons of designing, testing, refining, and proving needs to take place. Especially for a usage like an automobile.
Concur, yet worth the efforts.
 

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That sounds promising. I wonder what the manufacturing differences are between the Li-on formulation and current Li-on batteries? How much change in the current process.

Great that the patent is semi-public owned by the two universities so it is something all the battery mfgs could use.

Top Battery Mfgs are:

Panasonic Japan
CATL China
LG Korea
Optimum China,
BYD China makes more EV batteries than all of the four that you listed.
 
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