Lordstown Endurance electric pickup will spawn electric RV project with Camping World

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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1130664_camping-world-lordstown-endurance-electric-rv-project

Lordstown Endurance electric pickup will spawn electric RV project with Camping World
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BENGT HALVORSON DECEMBER 16, 2020 15 COMMENTS
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Ohio-based Lordstown Motors is focusing on fleet customers with its upcoming Endurance electric pickup. With a partnership announced Tuesday afternoon, Endurance owners will have a service network, and Lordstown potentially has a new direction to grow its business: electric RVs.

Lordstown announced a business relationship with Illinois-based Camping World that will start with a national service and collision network for the Endurance, then expand to “the development of new EV products and solutions for the RV marketplace based on the Endurance platform.”

That includes, initially, plans to provide an integrated, lithium-ion battery pack for travel trailers that would eliminate the need for noisy, polluting standalone generators. Eventually the partnership aims to produce the first all-electric high-volume-production RV.

Within the partnership, the two companies will be concurrently developing the battery technology. Although nothing was said about the cells that might be used in such packs, Lordstown plans to use 2170-format cylindrical lithium-ion cells in the Endurance—the format that Tesla uses in the Model 3 and Model Y.


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In a press conference attended virtually by Green Car Reports Tuesday, Lordstown Motors CEO Steve Burns pointed to the 800,000-square-foot battery facility that’s planned next door to the Ohio plant and noted that if it can fill production capacity sooner with such RV products, “it’s a no-brainer.”

The executives explained that the plan is to build the battery for the travel trailer at the Ohio facility, as well as a future Class C motorhome built on the skateboard platform of the Lordstown Endurance—essentially a pickup cab chassis with a new body fitted on top.

The electric RV will be affordable for the masses, the companies claimed, with Millennials in mind as they’re the future of the industry.

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Press conference for electric RV - Lordstown Motors plant

“The end goal is that we’re going to have more people working here than GM did in its heyday,” said Burns, speaking from the Lordstown facility, which the startup purchased from GM in 2019.

Marcus Lemonis, the CEO of Camping World, said that the company aims to be ready to service the Endurance in a “mock environment” in June 2021—even though vehicles won’t be delivered to fleet customers until later in the year.

Camping World has 170 locations, almost 2,000 service bays, nationwide roadside assistance, and four distribution centers. “We’re going to have the best service that any EV company has ever had,” said Burns. “To fleets that really value uptime it is super important.”

As an accompanying move to all these plans, the companies are aiming to establish a “Good Sam” charging network at Camping World locations, which tend to be along major highways.

Prototypes for the travel trailer will be made by summer 2021, and Lemonis confirmed that will be a 2022 model. The electric RV would come later.
 

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CNBC commercial, 3 months from now:

coming next week on "The Profit": Marcus faces his biggest challenge yet...​
(video of Marcus) okay so the deal is I invest $12.50 and get 100% control over the travel trailer and RV design​
(scene change)
(video of Steve Burns, crying) I'm just trying to do what's best for my family and Lordstown, Ohio - this whole area has been hit so hard...​
(scene change)
(video of Marcus in a rental car, talking on an iPhone) The agreement was for 100% control...​
that's next week, on "The Profit", on CNBC - "Please Don't Watch Fox News Business; We Have Cramer"​
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Electric RV's have a similar issue that long-haul trucks do with regard to EV propulsion:

They would need too much battery not leaving enough payload space (similar to the Rocket Problem).

To go any appreciable distance moving a brick through air would require a very large battery. Recharging that quickly would be very difficult.

A far better solution would be to drop the new F-150's hybrid powertrain (including the 7kW generator) into a motorhome with a "decently" sized battery (say 20-30 kWh).

That way the motorhome can still effectively go a long distance and can power itself (no extra generator needed).
 

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Electric RV's have a similar issue that long-haul trucks do with regard to EV propulsion:

They would need too much battery not leaving enough payload space (similar to the Rocket Problem).

To go any appreciable distance moving a brick through air would require a very large battery. Recharging that quickly would be very difficult.

A far better solution would be to drop the new F-150's hybrid powertrain (including the 7kW generator) into a motorhome with a "decently" sized battery (say 20-30 kWh).

That way the motorhome can still effectively go a long distance and can power itself (no extra generator needed).
RVs have an even bigger problem going BEV than cargo trucks... There's likely no chargers on the other end. By design, they road trip into the wilderness.
 
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RVs have an even bigger problem going BEV than cargo trucks... There's likely no chargers on the other end. By design, they road trip into the wilderness.
Most RVs head to campgrounds with electrical hookups. It may take a while to charge, though.
 


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RVs have an even bigger problem going BEV than cargo trucks... There's likely no chargers on the other end. By design, they road trip into the wilderness.
Most RVs head to campgrounds with electrical hookups. It may take a while to charge, though.
Very true: many people frequently boondock with their RV's out in the middle of nowhere.

Even if the roof is entirely covered with solar panels it wouldn't be enough.

(The only boondocking we do is overnight at a rest stop. Its usually campgrounds for us but even at campgrounds the 50amp plugs there are only good for a ~10kW Level-2 EVSE which would take forever to charge up a huge RV battery.)

Conversley, however, if the RV stopped at a DCFC prior to boondocking that big battery could run the rooftop air conditioning for quite some time before running low.
 

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Most RVs head to campgrounds with electrical hookups. It may take a while to charge, though.
There's both. Our family (my dad in particular) was all about the fishing. So we never used the fancier campgrounds. We'd just park at the lake or rustic camping areas that didn't have power.

But I know there's people that RV for sightseeing to, going from one KOA campground to another where they plug in.
 

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There's both. Our family (my dad in particular) was all about the fishing. So we never used the fancier campgrounds. We'd just park at the lake or rustic camping areas that didn't have power.

But I know there's people that RV for sightseeing to, going from one KOA campground to another where they plug in.
Or use them to visit all the MLB parks in the US (oh and the one in Canada...) well ok use the RV for some of them LOL.
 

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Most RVs head to campgrounds with electrical hookups. It may take a while to charge, though.

And campgrounds are not yet equiped with electrical networks that will be able to manage the charging need! RVs run on 120V, not 240V... ok they have 30-50A, but in the end it's only 120V being provided

So LOOOONG charge times (ok they are there for a few days), but will the campground systems be able to handle the load? Or again, how much $$$ will the campgrounds increase their daily rates to cover for such electrical power being used!

I'm a camper, well actually I travel with my travel trailer. I fear 2035 (if my memory is right), the Quebec government has stated that no new ICE cars will be sold in the province from that point on (except for industrial equipment/transport). I'll be looking at buying a new pickup truck right before this takes place and will be keeping that one for as long as I can.

Unless there's a serious revolution in the battery world, I do not foresee a sustainable future for BEV trucks(with similar capacities as those of today).
 

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And campgrounds are not yet equiped with electrical networks that will be able to manage the charging need! RVs run on 120V, not 240V... ok they have 30-50A, but in the end it's only 120V being provided

So LOOOONG charge times (ok they are there for a few days), but will the campground systems be able to handle the load? Or again, how much $$$ will the campgrounds increase their daily rates to cover for such electrical power being used!

I'm a camper, well actually I travel with my travel trailer. I fear 2035 (if my memory is right), the Quebec government has stated that no new ICE cars will be sold in the province from that point on (except for industrial equipment/transport). I'll be looking at buying a new pickup truck right before this takes place and will be keeping that one for as long as I can.

Unless there's a serious revolution in the battery world, I do not foresee a sustainable future for BEV trucks(with similar capacities as those of today).
Actually it is 240V: I charge our Bolt at campgrounds on the 50amp plug with a Level-2 EVSE all the time.
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Actually it is 240V: I charge our Bolt at campgrounds on the 50amp plug with a Level-2 EVSE all the time.
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Oh I stand corrected, at least for the US market...

Around here, I've never noticed. and well I never use the 50A, so maybe 50A campsites have 240v.

Good thing then!
 

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Actually it is 240V: I charge our Bolt at campgrounds on the 50amp plug with a Level-2 EVSE all the time.
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@JamieGeek never fails to impress with his vast collection of cable porn.
tbf this is probably the only kind of acceptable pr0n for this particular site. that's one category where I won't hesitate to issue the tickets.

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tbf this is probably the only kind of acceptable pr0n for this particular site. that's one category where I won't hesitate to issue the tickets.

although tbh even cable pr0n is pushing it because pr0n.
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