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Lucid Air Sedan traveled over 400 Highway miles on a 110KW battery pack between charges.

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I don’t see battery voltage having any impact on battery size (it’s likely not the voltage of one cell, it has to do with how they’re arranged). But it should improve efficiency as current decreases for a given power output.
Higher voltage allows for smaller interconnects, all else being equal. It may save a little weight but I don't think that's the intent.
 

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Higher voltage allows for smaller interconnects, all else being equal. It may save a little weight but I don't think that's the intent.
Agreed...weight loss is “nice” but not a driving factor in these cars. Power loss in a cable is related to the square of the current...so this voltage bump and corresponding decrease in current is big here.
 

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Wow, 900volt system. Smaller and lighter battery pack. Improved transmission to improve the entire system. Great news but at a cost(?) that many of us can't handle. Rapid evolutionally EV development continues.
That's perhaps the best part... not for actually buying this one at a premium price, but what it could portend for later in the decade. What's state-of-the-art today should be commonplace (and much cheaper) in 5 years.
 

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Some more info on the Lucid Air, with its impressive, predicted EPA-estimated 517 mile driving range.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/08/15...plans-to-defy-skeptics-and-take-on-tesla.html

I wonder how much of the beyond $100k price tag is for the vehicle's energy storage? And when does the environmental impact become excessive? If this Lucid Air is reliable, fun, and "glamorous" and becomes popular with big time public figures, maybe this will improve general popularity of the idea of going electric.
 

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If this Lucid Air is reliable, fun, and "glamorous" and becomes popular with big time public figures, maybe this will improve general popularity of the idea of going electric.
I think that box is already checked by Tesla. What it will take to significantly move the needle now is affordability.

If anything, the Lucid Air just further cements the "EVs are for rich people" image.
 

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Some more info on the Lucid Air, with its impressive, predicted EPA-estimated 517 mile driving range.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/08/15...plans-to-defy-skeptics-and-take-on-tesla.html

I wonder how much of the beyond $100k price tag is for the vehicle's energy storage? And when does the environmental impact become excessive? If this Lucid Air is reliable, fun, and "glamorous" and becomes popular with big time public figures, maybe this will improve general popularity of the idea of going electric.
How’d that work out with Teslas? Many celebs were seen with their MSs, but I wouldn’t say that resulted in BEVs catching on fire (wow, one of my all time worst puns ;)).
 

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How’d that work out with Teslas? Many celebs were seen with their MSs, but I wouldn’t say that resulted in BEVs catching on fire (wow, one of my all time worst puns ;)).
That's quite a hot take.
 

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How’d that work out with Teslas? Many celebs were seen with their MSs, but I wouldn’t say that resulted in BEVs catching on fire (wow, one of my all time worst puns ;)).
Seemed like celebrities were the first to the Prius too.
 

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And next up: 300 miles of recharging in 20 minutes!

https://www.greencarreports.com/new...e-fastest-charging-ev-300-miles-in-20-minutes


Lucid Air electric sedan boasts fastest-charging EV time: 300 miles in 20 minutes
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Lucid already suggested a week ago that its upcoming Air electric luxury sedan might offer the longest EPA-cycle range of any EV—an anticipated 517 miles.

Now it’s already topping that with what many electric-vehicle enthusiasts will see as an even more impressive claim: that it’s the fastest-charging EV.

Lucid announced Wednesday that the Air can recover up to 20 miles of range per minute of charging, corresponding to an actual peak charging power of more than 300 kw. While that’s a jaw-dropping potential burst rate—likely at a very specific state of charge and with ideal conditions—Lucid’s claim in real-world charging situations is unparalleled: 300 miles of estimated EPA range back in just 20 minutes.

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That means the Air will likely require shorter stops on a road trip versus Tesla models with Supercharging V3, the Porsche Taycan, and everything else on the market.

Getting that charge rate will require a 350-kw CCS DC fast-charger, of the sort that remains relatively rare in the U.S. According to Chargeway, a software platform and app aiming to make it easier to charge, there are currently 593 active 350-kw fast-charging connectors in the U.S. Those are mostly part of the Electrify America network, but EVgo has one up and Greenlots will soon add 30.

In Chargeway’s much-simplified color-and-number language you need only look for a Green 7 to find those connectors.

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350-kw DC fast-charging stations in the U.S. - Chargeway - August 2020

In the Air, Lucid credits a number of factors for the charge rate. Its 900+ volt electrical architecture reduces thermal losses, as well as its sophisticated thermal management system and custom lithium-ion cells—coming from LG Chem for most models.

The onboard charger used in the Air is called Wunderbox as it combines several components into “one package-efficient and structurally integrated housing”—again, likely designed for power efficiency, too.

The Air’s AC onboard charger can handle up to 19.2 kw—suggesting 80A drawn, and a dedicated 100A home or commercial circuit to support. The payoff of such an arrangement is the recovery of up to 80 miles per hour on Level 2—approaching the rate at which some earlier EVs can recover miles via fast-charging.

It also notes that the Air will automatically boost its voltage when needed to charge at the quickest possible rate. By the sound of it that’s a big step up from the Porsche Taycan, which offers 50-kw fast-charging capability at 400V, with 150-kw capability optional.

Lucid says that the charging system has full bi-directionality for advanced V2X capabilities—including the future enablement of vehicle-to-grid (V2G) and vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) technology.

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Lucid Connected Home Charging Station

The Lucid Connected Home Charging Station will be, the company says, “one of the first AC charging stations with bi-directional charging ever offered.” With installation through the partner company Qmerit, bi-directional charging will allow the Air to be used as temporary power for the home or, as Lucid suggests, off-grid vacation properties.

Lucid is working on its own energy storage systems that will supplement those capabilities—and, in the future, find a second-life use for its batteries.

U.S. buyers of the Air will be able to take advantage of this very fast charging for three years on the Electrify America network free of charge.

The official virtual reveal event for the Lucid Air is just three weeks out—September 9—so expect many more details then. First deliveries of the Air, which will be built in Arizona, are due in spring 2021.
 

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Amazing what you can get if you're willing to pop for $100k+ for the top of the line features!
 

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Amazing what you can get if you're willing to pop for $100k+ for the top of the line features!
Remember. They have claimed it will start at $60K (maybe for a model available in 2023).
 

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Remember. They have claimed it will start at $60K (maybe for a model available in 2023).
But that surely won't include the super range. We'll have to see about the faster charging in the cheaper version, but I'd be doubtful on that too.
 



 









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