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I noticed that wheel sizes are in a variety of locations and threads, so I'm compiling all the known sizes here. Let me know if you have a size I'm missing, or a correction.

value only = Confirmed from a printed Ford document or a photo from a user.
?‍♂ = A reasonable estimate based on calculations or extremely similar vehicle.
❓ = My wild ass guess, please confirm.

Stock Wheel and Tire Sizes

TrimWheel SizeBolt PatternOffsetCenter BoreOEM Tire ModelOEM Tire SizeOEM Load Rating
Premium / First Ed. / Select 19"19" x 7.0" J5 x 10847.5mm63.4mmMichelin Primacy A/S225/55 R19103H XL
Premium “Summer Tires” Option19” x 7.0” J5 x 10847.5mm63.4mmContinental Premium Contact 6 ?‍♂225/55 R19103Y XL ?‍♂
Select / CA Rt 118" x 7.0" J5 x 10847.5mm63.4mmContinental Premium Contact 6 (Demos),
Michelin Primacy A/S (US Selects)
225/60 R18104V XL (Conti), 104H XL (Michelin)
GT20" x 8.0" J5 x 10847.5mm63.4mmContinental CrossContact RX245/45 R20103H XL
GT Performance Ed.20" x 8.0" J5 x 10847.5mm63.4mmPirelli P Zero Elect245/45 R20103Y XL

Offset range is believed to be 38mm to 53mm, which is believable given the stock sizing.

NOTE: "XL" in the load rating means the tire reaches maximum load at 41 psi, rather than 35 psi for SL (Standard Load) tires.

Wheel Weights

WheelWheel WeightStock Tire Weight
18" Carbonized Grey (Select)25.6 lbs25.62 lbs (Conti), 26.26 (Mich)
19" Shadow (Select)28.88 lbs (Conti)
19" Machine-Face (Premium, FE)~30lbs (weighed by member)28.88 lbs (mfg)
20" Cast-Aluminum (GT)34.1 lbs (weighed by member, 61.1 lbs with stock tire)27 lbs (TireRack) ?‍♂
20" Premium Forged (GT-PE)33.4 lbs (weighed by member, ~60.4 lbs with stock tire)
27 lbs (TireRack) ?‍♂

Gross Vehicle Weight Ratings
Curb weight is calculated (GVWR - max combined weight of cargo/occupants)

TrimGVWRGAWR (Front)GAWR (Rear)Curb Weight (stock)Max Cargo and Passenger Weight
Premium AWD ER5800 lbs2660 lbs3225 lbs4882 lbs918 lbs
Premium AWD SR5500 lbs2570 lbs3020 lbs4617 lbs883 lbs
Premium RWD ER5560 lbs2480 lbs3185 lbs4693 lbs867 lbs
Premium RWD SR5340 lbs2420 lbs3040 lbs4435 lbs905 lbs
Select AWD (19") SR5500 lbs2570 lbs3020 lbs4568 lbs932 lbs
Select RWD SR5340 lbs2420 lbs3040 lbs4361 lbs979 lbs
GT
GT-PE5980 lbs2805 lbs3260 lbs5068 lbs912 lbs

Lug nuts - M14 (14mm x 1.5mm), 21mm socket


Photos of wheel options
Ford Mustang Mach-E Mach-E 2021/22 Wheel Sizes, Bolt Patterns, Offset, Center Bore, Load Rating, GVWR [Table] 1612397767282


Other brand’s stock wheels that are known or suspected to work

Wheel Size Calculator, prefilled with stock 19” sizing on the left, and some approximate values for clearances: https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wh...-18X7.5ET45&fcl=20mm&wcl=70mm&scl=35mm&sr=0mm
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Thank you for the wheel specs. Now I can start looking for winter alloy rims for the Continental WinterContact tires that I have already purchased for the FE with 19" tires.
 

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Great info. Assuming 38mm for GT, wheels could stick out about an inch more than other editions. Hopefully they will feature 245+ tires to really give it a more aggressive stance.
 
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Great info. Assuming 38mm for GT, wheels could stick out about an inch more than other editions. Hopefully they will feature 245+ tires to really give it a more aggressive stance.
Hmm, 38mm might be way off, I was thinking the outside face will be at the same location as the 7” rims, so it would need to be at one of the extreme offsets in the range, but that actually means 53mm, right?

That would put it more like 1/4” further out than stock.

EDIT On further calcs, 38mm can’t be right. 53mm would make sense though, zero scrub radius, and only 7mm further out than the 19” rims.
 
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The original post states that AWD ER has a minimum load rating of 98. If that is correct, why would Ford go with 103 XL (extra load) instead of 99 standard load for the OEM tires? That sounds suspicious to me.
 
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The original post states that AWD ER has a minimum load rating of 98. If that is correct, why would Ford go with 103 XL (extra load) instead of 99 standard load for the OEM tires? That sounds suspicious to me.
OEMs are free to use higher load rating tires, maybe for aggressive driving, extra safety factor, or just because the tires they want aren’t made in the lower rating. By the math, you only need 98 rated tires, but most people recommend staying with the OEM recommendation. Up to you.

I did read that many of the demo cars had 99 rated Primacy tires so clearly Ford wasn’t worried about them exploding. EDIT: False alarm - those tires were the Primacy A/S 103H XL, not the Primacy Tour A/S 99V SL.

Edit: As for XL rating, that might be to get the higher load rating at higher PSI since they recommend 39 psi. Can anyone confirm if the stock tires do have the XL marking on them?

EDIT: I updated the post to be more clear about the recommended rating. I'm still calculating the minimum rating based on the normal industry method, but I wouldn't recommend buying 99 rated tires until we have a better idea of why Ford chose the XL rating.
 
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So would the GT wheels look good on a premium?
 

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Hmm, 38mm might be way off, I was thinking the outside face will be at the same location as the 7” rims, so it would need to be at one of the extreme offsets in the range, but that actually means 53mm, right?

That would put it more like 1/4” further out than stock.

EDIT On further calcs, 38mm can’t be right. 53mm would make sense though, zero scrub radius, and only 7mm further out than the 19” rims.
I believe you are correct. You would have to run higher offset to make it look like 7" wheel setup. I am hoping they would run a more aggressive offset but wishful thinking.
 

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Can you fellas help a dummy out? Assuming I got a second set of rims for non-winter driving and kept the Route 1's stock 18" aeros for snow tires, what would the correct offset be for a 19" wheel with 8" width so that it aligns to the same outside dimension as the stock 18" wheels? Or if not the same, at least close?
 
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Can you fellas help a dummy out? Assuming I got a second set of rims for non-winter driving and kept the Route 1's stock 18" aeros for snow tires, what would the correct offset be for a 19" wheel with 8" width so that it aligns to the same outside dimension as the stock 18" wheels? Or if not the same, at least close?
Take a look at this sizing calculator. The left side is filled in already with the stock 18" wheels. The right side shows a 19x8" rim, with 245/50 tires (same outer diameter). You can play with the offset to see what the balance is between sticking out the side, and protruding further in. With a 53mm offset, it protrudes 15mm deeper under the car, and 7mm further out. That seems like a good balance to me, and it maintains a zero scrub radius (front tires will pivot on the center of the tire) which is better for handling. I'm not 100% sure that the car can clear the extra 15mm inside, however I strongly suspect it can since I don't think the GTs have different body or hub components, and they will have the 8" rims as well.

https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wh...50-19X8ET53&fcl=50mm&wcl=30mm&scl=50mm&sr=0mm
 
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UPDATE: Added tire types as we learn what is showing up. I added a little emoji code to indicate how confident I am in the information. Green check = Confirmed on Ford documentation OR a user photo. Shrugging guy = This seems reasonable and fits with everything else we know. Question mark = I'm making a wild guess.

Keep feeding info into the thread, and I'll update the OP.
 

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Take a look at this sizing calculator. The left side is filled in already with the stock 18" wheels. The right side shows a 19x8" rim, with 245/50 tires (same outer diameter). You can play with the offset to see what the balance is between sticking out the side, and protruding further in. With a 53mm offset, it protrudes 15mm deeper under the car, and 7mm further out. That seems like a good balance to me, and it maintains a zero scrub radius (front tires will pivot on the center of the tire) which is better for handling. I'm not 100% sure that the car can clear the extra 15mm inside, however I strongly suspect it can since I don't think the GTs have different body or hub components, and they will have the 8" rims as well.

https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wh...50-19X8ET53&fcl=50mm&wcl=30mm&scl=50mm&sr=0mm
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Does anyone have any after market wheels they've already decided on getting? I'm not in love with the rims that come on the premium.

I'm a first timer at buying rims, are we locked into the same dimensions as what comes on the car originally? Like I know what 19s are but, completely clueless on offset, etc.
 
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Does anyone have any after market wheels they've already decided on getting? I'm not in love with the rims that come on the premium.

I'm a first timer at buying rims, are we locked into the same dimensions as what comes on the car originally? Like I know what 19s are but, completely clueless on offset, etc.
It isn't easy, and it is good to have a trusted tire shop work with you on the details. However, in short:

  • Wheel diameter - can be same size or larger. You can often, but not always go down one size (in this case 18" should be fine, 17" is unknown)
  • Wheel width - same width is easy, 8" is probably fine, 9"+ would require some careful measurements, unknown.
  • Bolt pattern - has to be the same.
  • Center bore - the same is ideal, can be larger with shims, cannot be smaller.
  • Offset - If the wheel is the same width, then the offset should be the same, or within 5mm or so. If the wheel is wider, then the offset has to get larger, usually by ~ 1/2 of the change in width. This gets tricky fast, calculators like wheel-size.com are helpful here.
  • Load rating - has to be larger than 1/2 of the heaviest GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating). This may be tricky since that will put you > 1650 lbs, which is a higher rating than many aftermarket wheels get.
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