Mach-E rear motor teardown by Sandy Munro

[EELinneman]

Been waiting for this for a while!

Sponsored

 

[Raymondjram]

The park pawl is normal for mechanical transmissions, and a safeguard here if any electrical brake fails. Munro complains too much about how Ford builds but weren't the drive units designed and built by Borg Wagner? Eventually Ford engineers will design a better and simpler drive unit for future models. GM did the same for the second generation Chevy Volt, so we will see improvements for the next Mach-E generations.

 

[will]

am I to understand I'll need to replace a laminate on an electric vehicle motor?

 

[Chuck]

Is the presumption that Ford makes this motor?

 

[horsevxi]

If Munro were to actually have input into the design of an electric vehicle, it would have the bare minimum amount of fasteners, all delicate high voltage connections in the electronics would be friction/pressure fit with no permanent mechanical connections, the dedicated oil cooling system would be reduced or eliminated "because VW did it," and all manufacturing processes would be designed according to Sandy's non-applicable, 30+year out of date education and professional experience. I'm happy to have extra fasteners, welding, and other "unnecessary" components that confuse Sandy since they all make the vehicle better for the customer. His comments are all related to making the cars cheaper to produce, not to improve customer experience or performance.

 

[snikt]

Is the presumption that Ford makes this motor?

It looks like it's stamped with FoMoCo, would that be there if it was a Borg Warner or someone else?

 

[Scarpia]

It looks like it's stamped with FoMoCo, would that be there if it was a Borg Warner or someone else?

This is a BorgWarner motor, and yes.

 

[Scarpia]

This is a BorgWarner motor, and yes.

Actually, reading that linked article more carefully, BorgWarner manufactures the entire drive module, which includes the gearbox and thermal management, and the motor is part of that system. It sounds like the motor and electronics may be sourced from other manufacturers and integrated into the drive module. So technically, BorgWarner may not manufacture the motor itself.

 

[snikt]

This is a BorgWarner motor, and yes.

Interesting, they don't stamp their own logo or brand on their own product? This could be a normal thing in the automotive industry, have no idea

 

[Scarpia]

Interesting, they don't stamp their own logo or brand on their own product? This could be a normal thing in the automotive industry, have no idea

From just looking around the car, I've noticed that just about everything has Ford branding on it. They are very meticulous with their supply chain and I think it is part of their process.
Kind of like Costco makes all their vendors put Costco-specific tags on everything

 

[snikt]

From just looking around the car, I've noticed that just about everything has Ford branding on it. They are very meticulous with their supply chain and I think it is part of their process.
Kind of like Costco makes all their vendors put Costco-specific tags on everything

True, I guess it's a pretty normal thing then. Supposedly the Kirkland vodka is just rebranded Grey Goose

 

[EELinneman]

True, I guess it's a pretty normal thing then. Supposedly the Kirkland vodka is just rebranded Grey Goose

No.
Fact check: Costco's Kirkland Signature vodka not Grey Goose (usatoday.com)

 

[JoeDimwit]

am I to understand I'll need to replace a laminate on an electric vehicle motor?

Potentially up to 517 of them… ?

 

[DanHo]

No.
Fact check: Costco's Kirkland Signature vodka not Grey Goose (usatoday.com)

But still delicious for the price!

 

[Av8tor]

It looks like it's stamped with FoMoCo, would that be there if it was a Borg Warner or someone else?

Sponsored