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Are they, though? Didn't Tesla sell a supercharging extension at one point?

Here's a 3rd party extension cable:

https://evadept.com/p/tesla-supercharger-extension-cord-tslaext/
Interesting. Not sold by Tesla but looks like it should work. That may become a needed accessory.
i would have serious concerns using these for any V3 or higher supercharger. the original V2 supercharger limit was 120kW (later bumped it up to 145kW) and were the last design to have uncooled cables. tesla added cooling to their V3 superchargers to support charging above 150kW up to 250kW.

a The Verge article from 2019 when V3 superchargers were announced:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/6/18253618/tesla-supercharger-250kw-v3-specs-location
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He is not allowed to post any tweets relating to Tesla unless Tesla's lawyers review them first. He's been reprimanded by the courts already on that.
I wasn’t speaking about tweets about Tesla. He can do as much advertising for his companies as he wants - I don’t care. It’s all his wacko social agenda stuff that I don’t want to deal with.
 

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Perhaps Farley meant to say Ford will ship NACS adapters to every Ford EV owner who wants one. It doesn't make sense for them to send adapters to everyone when some people don't want them. I assume we will have to pay for them ourselves and the cost will be about $200.

Hopefully we'll just be able to go on Ford Accessories and buy one for $200 when the time comes. That's what I would like.
 

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I'm glad you posted this. These guys that thought they were getting a "Free" adapter were making me laugh. This is capitalism at it's finest. They are going to churn us for at least $150/adapter. It's brilliant when you stop to think about it. If Musk were to continue with the Magic Dock we would not need an adapter. Ford and Elon are making money while providing us a better service.......
 


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Just got the same message in my FP app. They are in it now 😜. We are going to make Tesla owners' lives miserable, muhahaha 😁😈. Oh, I mean what a glorious day for all CCS BEV owners! Kumbaya!
 

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i would have serious concerns using these for any V3 or higher supercharger. the original V2 supercharger limit was 120kW (later bumped it up to 145kW) and were the last design to have uncooled cables. tesla added cooling to their V3 superchargers to support charging above 150kW up to 250kW.

a The Verge article from 2019 when V3 superchargers were announced:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/6/18253618/tesla-supercharger-250kw-v3-specs-location
True but Mach Es don't charge much about 150 kW.
 

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I'm glad you posted this. These guys that thought they were getting a "Free" adapter were making me laugh. This is capitalism at it's finest. They are going to churn us for at least $150/adapter. It's brilliant when you stop to think about it. If Musk were to continue with the Magic Dock we would not need an adapter. Ford and Elon are making money while providing us a better service.......
While it talks about pricing, it doesn't rule out free chargers for existing owners. They could set a policy that owners of vehicles delivered before 5/26/23 (Farley pronouncement on CNBC) get a free adapter.

Since the CCS1 -> NACS adapter retails at $175, let's figure cost to Ford would be $150 including shipping. At under 200,000 BEVs delivered so far that would cost Ford under $30M for lots of good will.

For comparison, the cost to air a Super Bowl commercial is $7M for a single 30 second spot.
 

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They have to design and build the adapters, and both Ford and Tesla have software development and testing to do to integrate FordPass with the Tesla network.

Tesla could probably perfect the software in 2 months. Ford, well.......
A fair number of Ford software engineers are former Tesla software engineers. There really isn't any evidence Ford engineers are somehow inferior to Tesla engineers.
 

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While it talks about pricing, it doesn't rule out free chargers for existing owners. They could set a policy that owners of vehicles delivered before 5/26/23 (Farley pronouncement on CNBC) get a free adapter.

Since the CCS1 -> NACS adapter retails at $175, let's figure cost to Ford would be $150 including shipping. At under 200,000 BEVs delivered so far that would cost Ford under $30M for lots of good will.

For comparison, the cost to air a Super Bowl commercial is $7M for a single 30 second spot.
I don’t think a free one is likely, but doesn’t really matter cause I’ll definitely be getting one either way
 

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It’s interesting that this specifically says V3 superchargers
So did Thursday's press announcement. That's where the 12,000 charger count comes from.

Tesla probably only plans to implement the software on v3 and v4 Superchargers (coming soon). My guess is it would be too much trouble to implement this on v2s that are on their way out anyway.
 

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I don’t think a free one is likely, but doesn’t really matter cause I’ll definitely be getting one either way
If it's the same $175 as the current CCS1 -> NACS adapter (or even twice that) I'd order today.
 

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But you have to deal with crap like this.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-shot-fight-denver-charging-station-rcna82836

In my last 7 years of EV driving, I’ve never had to wait at a DCFC.
Your experience is quite the exception, rather than the rule. Hopefully Tesla will continue to build out infrastructure in your area. Their network, overall, is the best by a long shot. Overall, CCS in comparison is quite poor. Again though, if you hate Tesla/Elon Musk/NACS/Superchargers so much, you are quite free to never use them.
 

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Munro video states the NACS input port and in car wiring will cost 10-30% less than the CCS implementation. Good video. Also, 0% possibility of Ford having two different charge connectors. CCS is done, stick a fork in it.

Putting the locking mechanism in the vehicle versus charging connector is brilliant. If the mechanism breaks, you have one car that is broke. If the charger connector breaks, no one is using it until it gets repaired. Also, the in vehicle mechanism will get used maybe once per day or a few times if on a road trip. The charger connector mechanism could get used 30 times per day. Big difference in design lifetime engineering. Hadn't considered that angle before.

The Mach-E charging port exterior cover is also painted, versus the NACS cover, so tougher logistics for the supplier of the part(s).

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