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So 98kWh battery. 270 miles for AWD.

2.75 miles per kWh.

61 miles is 22kWh in 10 minutes.

Charging at 122 kWh rate?
 

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So that's interesting. This explicitly says 61 mi for every 10 minutes and doesn't caveat the charge rate to just the first 10 minutes.
That is interesting. Even though the footnote still acknowledges a slowing charging rate as the battery fills. Which means it's yet more contradictory wording since it can't charge the same 61 miles "every 10 minutes".

At best, it really means "an average of" 61 miles every 10 minutes (even though they fail to say that). If that's true, either the mileage (thus range) also went up 30%, or the 10-80% charging time went down by 30%. Which would both be really big deals yet weren't even mentioned there.

If either of those are true, it still seems like this would be burying the lead. Still seems unlikely to me, although there is one scenario where it might make a little sense -- if they're close to getting the EPA mileage finalized and are just waiting for the final sign-off before releasing that number. But even that seems highly unlikely, if for no other reason than a 30% boost in range seems way to good to be true. 5%, yes. 10%, maybe. But anything close to 30%... seems like a pipe dream.
 

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So 98kWh battery. 270 miles for AWD.

2.75 miles per kWh.

61 miles is 22kWh in 10 minutes.

Charging at 122 kWh rate?
Two errors in that last line. It would be 132 rather than 122 (22 * 6); and it's kW, not kWh.

More likely though the usable battery (minus reserve) is around 90 kWh. That would be 3.00 miles per kWh on the AWD ER. 61 miles would be 20.3 kWh in 10 minutes, and a charging power average rate of 122 kW (ironically, back to match your number).
 
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More likely though the usable battery (minus reserve) is around 90 kWh.
Battery is rated at 98kWh so best stick with that. It does make it more conservative and nothing wrong with that so the 122 kWh rate is pretty good but that's just 10 minutes into an hour with no ramping down which is likely though Audi manages to charge at a high rate to 80% with a 95kWh battery.

In real world, the Model 3 charged at 86kWh rate over a 10-90% charge. If Mach-E can match that it will be pretty good.
 
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Two errors in that last line. It would be 132 rather than 122 (22 * 6); and it's kW, not kWh.

More likely though the usable battery (minus reserve) is around 90 kWh. That would be 3.00 miles per kWh on the AWD ER. 61 miles would be 20.3 kWh in 10 minutes, and a charging power average rate of 122 kW (ironically, back to match your number).
more than 2: 61 miles in 10 minutes is for RWD, not AWD. So about 3 mi/kwh (300/98.9), roughly 20.3kwh in 10 minutes - yielding approximately the original 122kw charging average.
 

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more than 2: 61 miles in 10 minutes is for RWD, not AWD. So about 3 mi/kwh (300/98.9), roughly 20.3kwh in 10 minutes - yielding approximately the original 122kw charging average.
You're right, I missed that. The press release number for the AWD ER is 52 miles added in 10 minutes, not 61.
 

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You're right, I missed that. The press release number for the AWD ER is 52 miles added in 10 minutes, not 61.
No biggie. I think we all need to get out of the house for a while :p
 
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